Israel - Hamas Gaza Conflict Oct-2023

vin bharat mahan

Kumaoni, Uttarakhand
Senior Member
Joined
Jan 7, 2023
Messages
1,226
Likes
4,046
Country flag
“Secretly”😅

Again, what weapons did the israelis provide? The indians used mostly soviet and british tech. Israelis used western american tech.
can u tell me what weapon israel sell us in 1962 nd 1965....by that logic israel also didnt sell us weapon in 1962 nd 1965.
 
Joined
Feb 16, 2009
Messages
29,966
Likes
48,916
Country flag
War ended in a military stalemate. Hezbollah has not been destroyed.
it is similar to asking why hasn’t LET been destroyed? or terrorist after 4 wars. Terrorists always blend themselves in with civilians very hard to weed them out even on the ground. In ancient times conquerors like Genghis khan left no one alive in his conquests never worried about future enemies retaliating.
 
Last edited:

Sikhbrah

Senior Member
Joined
Sep 25, 2018
Messages
1,154
Likes
8,425
Country flag
it is similar to asking why hasn’t LET been destroyed? Terrorists always blend themselves in with civilians very hard to weed them out even on the gfound
The real answer that can’t be mentioned in today’s politically correct world is - you have to kill the civilians too if you want to completely destroy the enemy.
 

Kumaoni

Senior Member
Joined
Jan 7, 2022
Messages
8,555
Likes
23,189
it is similar to asking why hasn’t LET been destroyed? Terrorists always blend themselves in with civilians very hard to weed them out even on the gfound
LeTs fighting force and cadre have pratically been destroyed inside our Kashmir. Same with several other Jihadi groups like JKLF and HuJi (HuM/HuA) having been permanently put out of commission. It’s gotten to the point where the LeT cadres have formed a whole new group like PAFF. Same with JeM.
 

another_armchair

Senior Member
Joined
Feb 28, 2019
Messages
12,094
Likes
54,382
Country flag
Medieval or even pre 0 BC Hindus did not rape civilian women en masse or murder civilians.
And in the modern era, muslims behaved exactly like this in the Armenian genocide, Moolah 1920, Bdesh 71, Pakistan 47, Kashmir, ISIS, etc

It's not about medieval or modern. It's about fundamental culture.
This is not
My bad. Stopped short of naming the desert cult Islam and used medieval instead. Thought it was implied as the term is liberally used to mean the same.
 

Suryavanshi

Cheeni KLPDhokebaaz
Senior Member
Joined
Jun 5, 2017
Messages
16,330
Likes
70,185
It is dishonorable to touch women, children and old people in war and the same has been documented well in war through the ages.
Cruz of my argument is.
Islam as a religion thrives on the virtue of the opposing force being benevolent in their approach.
Spare them? They teach their children hate.
The cycle continues.
Lots of civilization suffer today because they couldn't solve their problems when it was more feasible Like the Armenian genocide. Turkey does not face any blowback for that, in our case letting peaceful religion reside here was a mistake in the regards to izlamist.

We shouldn't let wimen children steer away from the most optimum method of executing Zehadis.
50 or so captured might as well be considered collateral now.
Islamist are banning on this very strategy.
 

Hari Sud

Senior Member
Joined
Mar 31, 2012
Messages
3,945
Likes
8,862
Country flag
Israel has to tighten its fist to finish the HAMAS.

Israeli IRON DOME, DAVID SLING, BARAK MISSILE failed to intercept the 5000 rockets fired by Hamas simultaneously into Israel. Will anybody ever trust these systems in the future? Not only the forgoing, it is a massive intelligence failure. Israel lost the battle; must win the war otherwise Israel is finished.

On top of the Ukraine war, now US has to deal with this HAMAS and Israel fight. It is unlikely to end soon. As PM Modi says, it is a terrorist attack and it should be suitably dealt with that is strongly. Israel should not stop until HAMAS is finished.

It is hundred percent likely that all Arabs will band together for HAMAS and other Palestinian groups. That is where US influence comes into the picture. The US either stop the other Arab interference here or stops the flow of arms to HAMAS forcibly. That is where US power will be counted. Compared to that Ukraine war is a fools paradise.
 

Kumaoni

Senior Member
Joined
Jan 7, 2022
Messages
8,555
Likes
23,189
thats the whole point,,, they didnt open about their arm sale to india in 1962, 1965 nd 1971. we only know about 1999.
That’s because we only started buying their stuff from them after the collapse of the USSR. We started buying things from 1995 itself,

Also, even if it is true, buying things does not equate to them helping us. It’s not like we are getting weaponry for free.
 

mist_consecutive

Golgappe Expert
Contributor
Joined
Oct 2, 2018
Messages
5,163
Likes
42,879
Country flag

--------------------------------------------------------------------
I thought IA blowing up buildings instead of doing room-clearing ops like cooler forces of West such as SWAT, GIGN and SEALs was primitive and unclassy.

Boy oh boy, I was wrong. Seems like real-life experience dealing with Jihadis >>> Gucci gear and funky tactics.
 

Trial By Fire

Regular Member
Joined
Jul 16, 2022
Messages
898
Likes
5,261
Amputate both their hands and legs and send them back.

When each of them will require a caregiver to feed, bathe and clean ass, they will understand the 'real' cost of war that wasn't mentioned in their war manual.
Honestly speaking, if Israhell adopts the doctrine of "Total War" that the Red Army had during Afghanistan, they can fuck Gaza's shit up real good.

The Soviets employed some nasty shit, alright. The "Dragon's tooth" mines were designed not to kill, but to maim. Med care was so substandard in Afghanistan (probably worse in Gaza) that the Russians purposely designed that series of mine to just take a foot off, so that anyone who stepped on one of the mines would die slowly and painfully. They also used to drop exploding dolls. The toys they used to airdrop (dolls and so forth) were always done up in a greenish color scheme - green being the color of Islam - so that children would trust the objects and play with them.

In July 1980, The Times of London reported that Soviet helicopters 'dropped mines and time bombs, including some in the shape of pens, radios, money and toys in mountain passes along the border'. On the battlefield it takes more manpower to care for a wounded soldier than a dead one. So they developed these small mines and toys that would incapacitate someone who handled them. Obviously the toy idea was to ensure that future generations of Afghanis would not be able to fight.
 

Kumaoni

Senior Member
Joined
Jan 7, 2022
Messages
8,555
Likes
23,189

--------------------------------------------------------------------
I thought IA blowing up buildings instead of doing room-clearing ops like cooler forces of West such as SWAT, GIGN and SEALs was primitive and unclassy.

Boy oh boy, I was wrong. Seems like real-life experience dealing with Jihadis >>> Gucci gear and funky tactics.
Room intervention is much harder than it looks. I don’t think US grunts do room intervention could be wrong though.
 

Suryavanshi

Cheeni KLPDhokebaaz
Senior Member
Joined
Jun 5, 2017
Messages
16,330
Likes
70,185
I think the main problem is the current generation enlisted in the military (Millenials and Gen Z) are too sheltered and woke to be warriors who can show aggression and take life.

On the other hand, Muslims toughened from childhood and brought up the mentality of killing kafirs, shoots & kills without hesitation.
Joos of 1960s to 1980s were a different beasts.
They had faced existential threat like never before in Germany and were in do or die mode.
You might be right that average patrol guy of IDF isn't as motivated as them.
 

Latest Replies

Global Defence

New threads

Articles

Top