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My reply was for specific situation, in case Iran block strait of hormuz which will affect many other gulf countries.
It will be a major disruption . Saudis can possibly use gulf of Aden ? If Houthi’s allow? The world will have to suffer to make israel happy? It will make Russian oil more valuable the west will be forced to remove sanctions to save their economies
 
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Closing of strait of hormuz will only make other OPEC kingdoms in Gulf having a massive loss. This will only make Iran's relationship with GCC much worser.
it will disrupt the world economy . Saudis have had disruptions before in gulf war many of the Kuwaiti oil fields 100’s of them were set on fires that burned for months.
 

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It will be a major disruption . Saudis can possibly use gulf of Aden ? If Houthi’s allow? The world will have to suffer to make israel happy?
it will disrupt the world economy.
Look at this triangle and it's chokepoints. The whole oil and gas importing countries will suffer.

Iran pretty much has more leverage than others in the region.

All the chokepoints are now affected by Iran and its proxies.

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Look at this triangle and it's chokepoints. The whole oil and gas importing countries will suffer.

Iran pretty much has more levarage than others in the region.

All the chokepoints are now affected by Iran and its proxies.

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If this region is so important why continuously destabilizes it,???? Is it intentional???
 

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it will disrupt the world economy . Saudis have had disruptions before in gulf war many of the Kuwaiti oil fields 100’s of them were set on fires that burned for months.
Iran iraq war was an unusual war ,
For the first time in middle eastern history, one man named Saddam Hussein did what nobody else could .
His reign was a reign of Arab supremacy over everything and everyone else.
He , during most part of the war played on extended Arab identity by portraying himself as a shield against the iranian or persian or median or elamite horde , yes he went that far back in time to play identity politics.
His real aim was capturing shatt Al Arab river , and khuzestan which was heavily populated by Arabs and not persians.
Well his plan backfired and no side won .
After eight years of fight, from 1980 to 1988

After that saddam was saddam he declared unilateral victory and attacked kuwait , which is Iraq's 19th province in 1990.
Now during the tanker war of iran iraq war , the Saudis marked a line starting from mouth of persian gulf and ending on Saudi coast, it was as far as I remember a 1400 km long line known as the king fahd line , Saudis threatened to attack and did shoot down both iranian and Iraqi planes , if they ventured into the area enclosed by the Fahd line.
So that part of Persian gulf , and trade with GOC nations was secure as far as india was concerned.

We although helped iran by supplying textiles, rubber dinghies for their attack on majnoon islands and torpedos for use by their boats to attack shipping.
Rajiv Gandhi agreed for torpedos and dinghies as we considered them as defensive weapons
All the same we were sending teams after teams of our airforce pilots to train Iraqi pilots , their army officers came here to study etc .
We were helping both sides .



As far as this war is concerned Israel crossed the line by attacking embassy, hence they needed a response.
 

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It is a well designed trap 🪤 and Biden not surprisingly is sleepwalking into it.
Ofcourse, the blame for 07 Oct lies squarely on Hamas. The clearing of Gaza is also justified by IDF.

But to bomb Iran embassy and then claim self defence, deserves a resounding thrashing.
You sure about China Russia? China is a bunch of cowards, no action, all statements. They backtrack even on anti piracy ops. Am not sure they will shed blood for Iran, at all
Russia.. well, they could. But then, this is not Soviet Union. The spirit of SU remains, but the body has disintegrated.
What can Russia do to help Iran??
Perhaps you're unaware as to how Iran has treated embassies of nations on its own soil & outside of their country. I suggest you familiarise yourself with the phenomenon.

Secondly if countries use their embassies in other countries to target 3rd parties consistently & over a period of time they're violating the very norms of diplomacy they're invoking in their defence .

Countries at the receiving end of such action , which can , will take action against these embassies .
 

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Perhaps you're unaware as to how Iran has treated embassies of nations on its own soil & outside of their country. I suggest you familiarise yourself with the phenomenon.

Secondly if countries use their embassies in other countries to target 3rd parties consistently & over a period of time they're violating the very norms of diplomacy they're invoking in their defence .

Countries at the receiving end of such action , which can , will take action against these embassies .
Yes, I cannot disagree with you on that the Iranians behaviour.
 

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Iran got at least 3000 more of those missiles that hit 2 Israeli air bases.
you should ask yourself this question , with the economy dying , people against their leaders ,friend russia already exhausted with war at home. will iran dare to challange US and israel ?? Not this show drama actual WAR.
 

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. Present crisis immediate trigger was attack on rave party , participants of which were equally disliked by Israeli right wing and greens alike, a rare commonality for the two warring sides.

. Since Iran has come out from the shadows, hope both sides will quickly deescalate.
 

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Difference between embassy and consulate was something Bharatiya mea had to explain to Trudeau.
 

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We can do nothing to stop where Israel & Iran are at now currently.

We have interests and relationships with both the countries and this cannot be sacrificed in exchange for full support for one of them.

Israel is a strategic partner but we also officially support 2-states solution and hence also support Palestine officially.

With Iran they are our key to Central Asia. They were our major oil supplier for quite a long time. But under Unkil Sam's pressure we are buying less from them now.
 

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We can do nothing to stop where Israel & Iran are at now currently.

We have interests and relationships with both the countries and this cannot be sacrificed in exchange for full support for one of them.

Israel is a strategic partner but we also officially support 2-state solution and hence also support Palestine officially.

With Iran they are our key to Central Asia. They were our major oil supplier for quite a long time. But under Unkil Sam's pressure we are buying less from them now.
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IDF assassinates senior Hezbollah coastal commander
By YONAH JEREMY BOB, JERUSALEM POST STAFF Published: APRIL 16, 2024 15:31Updated: APRIL 16, 2024 17:59IDF kills Hezbollah coastal commander in the Ain Ebel area of Lebanon. April 16, 2024. (Credit: IDF Spokesperson Unit).According to the IDF, Ismail Yusef Baz had served for decades with Hezbollah in a variety of posts before becoming a coastal commander.
 

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Word is F35s will be used to demonstrate the capabilities as well. They’re going to target the IRGC personnel’s, Attack Iranian air defenses too
IAF F-35's already demonstrated their capabilties back in 2018 itself.

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israel has to show the Arabs who is boss( or try)
Word is F35s will be used to demonstrate the capabilities as well. They’re going to target the IRGC personnel’s, Attack Iranian air defenses too
Laughable. So Israel too leaks its war plans to enemies to avoid actual damage. Next thing you know they are going to give radar signatures and also sqawk call signs.
 

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