Israel - Hamas Gaza Conflict Oct-2023

[Azaad]

South Africans suffered tremendously at the hands of European settlers. Israelis today are settlers from Europe. South Africans harken Israelis to the days of oppression by European settlers.

Much like the Han in Xinjiang, Tibet & Inner Mongolia.

 

[The3Amigos]

Much like the Han in Xinjiang, Tibet & Inner Mongolia.

Not really. Chinese people are more or less a mixing pot. I myself for example have Manchu and Han ancestry.

 

[The3Amigos]

 

[Tshering22]

South Africans suffered tremendously at the hands of European settlers. Israelis today are settlers from Europe. South Africans harken Israelis to the days of oppression by European settlers.

There is no logic to that discussion. Israelis did nothing wrong against the South Africans (except perhaps work with the erstwhile Apartheid regime). The working was simply because the government of South Africa was that at that time. This is like us getting angry at the Russians for working with the British because they were occupying us or you getting angry at the Brazilians for trading with the Japanese because they occupied China.

South Africa's biggest problem is that it has not answered its fundamental questions and continues to get involved in big power politics that is outside of its means. This might represent some form of fantastical courage, but it also leaves a poor country with unstable institutions vulnerable to being targeted and further destabilized.

 

[Tshering22]

How long do you think Iran can sustain arming both Houthis and Hamas, versus the Americans who can print dollars to arm Israel?

I truly wonder how Iran is managing to fund so many conflicts across the region with a tiny economy like theirs. They are not poor but they are not rich as well.

To be able to take on so many elements at the same time is pretty impressive - Funding Hamas terrorists, arming Hezbollah, funding the Syrian pro-Assad fighters, funding the Houthis... all these are proxies but there is still a lot of money that goes to making arms, training and paying these guys to sustain a fight.

 

[Satish Sharma]

Not really. Chinese people are more or less a mixing pot. I myself for example have Manchu and Han ancestry.

No, not at all..
There masjids are being converted in to hotels they are demolished etc etc.
And Buddhists monetaries were also demolished in 1960s &70s...
Communists and religionists can never go hand in hand.. yesterday xi said Chinese economy is in trouble..so they hidden the problem for so long now it's out of control so they are opening up .this 19 trillion dollars economy is nothing but just bs of 3 billion home co struction making railways which makes 150 billion dollars loss annually doesn't matter how fast u have they are loss making...
China has lock down for longest time.. china gained 4 trillion dollars in its GDP from COVID I do t trust those Chinese figures they can simply manipulate...

I heard xi ping wanted to make Chinese currency world reserve what happened?? That failed so that's why now they are coming for the brics currency..
What about fking 53 trillion dollars national debt and 16 trillion dollars provincial debt... Even if we consider there economy is truly 19 trillion dollars this debt to GDP goes beyond 275%. This is how they build so big navy I guess,
China is overrated in west because they need enemy without that how will they justify 800billion dollar budget ..


See how we beat asses of Chinese soldiers

 

[The3Amigos]

How long do you think Iran can sustain arming both Houthis and Hamas, versus the Americans who can print dollars to arm Israel?

I truly wonder how Iran is managing to fund so many conflicts across the region with a tiny economy like theirs. They are not poor but they are not rich as well.

To be able to take on so many elements at the same time is pretty impressive - Funding Hamas terrorists, arming Hezbollah, funding the Syrian pro-Assad fighters, funding the Houthis... all these are proxies but there is still a lot of money that goes to making arms, training and paying these guys to sustain a fight.

The US is weakening internally. Demographically, Anglos are on the decline. By 2050 Anglos are only 30% of US population and lose power in US politics. The US is weakening on the world stage. The US cannot support Israel beyond 2050.

Only China can mediate peace between Palestine and Israel the way China did for Iran and KSA which both have very close relations with China. In 2050 Palestine and Israel will make peace with China's mediation because both have very close relation with China.

 

[RocketMan]

South Africans suffered tremendously at the hands of European settlers. Israelis today are settlers from Europe. South Africans harken Israelis to the days of oppression by European settlers.

>60 % of Israeli Jews are refugees from MENA countries after Israel was established by UN resolution after British mandate ended . Contrary to Han Chinese in Tibet/Xinjiang Israel is not a settler state !

 

[RocketMan]

The US is weakening internally. Demographically, Anglos are on the decline. By 2050 Anglos are only 30% of US population and lose power in US politics. The US is weakening on the world stage. The US cannot support Israel beyond 2050.

Only China can mediate peace between Palestine and Israel the way China did for Iran and KSA which both have very close relations with China. In 2050 Palestine and Israel will make peace with China's mediation because both have very close relation with China.

As if CCP occupied West Taiwan will exist till 2050 !

 

[The3Amigos]

As if CCP occupied West Taiwan will exist till 2050 !

China will not invade Taiwan. Taiwan has no use to China.

 

[RocketMan]

China will not invade Taiwan. Taiwan has no use to China.

Let me make one thing absolutely clear, CCP (cut, copy , paste) is arming & supporting terrorists organisations like Hamas to destabilize the world & PLA engineers have been captured by IDF from Gaza tunnels (sources say 40+) . It arms Pakistan - a jihadi terrorist state & North Korea - a state ruled by a tinpot dictator that starves his own citizens to put pressure on Japan & SoKo. Karma will surely bite CCP in it's ass soon .

 

[Jimih]

Let me make one thing absolutely clear, CCP (cut, copy , paste)

Good one mate

 

[Corvus Splendens]

The US is weakening internally. Demographically, Anglos are on the decline. By 2050 Anglos are only 30% of US population and lose power in US politics. The US is weakening on the world stage. The US cannot support Israel beyond 2050.

Only China can mediate peace between Palestine and Israel the way China did for Iran and KSA which both have very close relations with China. In 2050 Palestine and Israel will make peace with China's mediation because both have very close relation with China.

The only entity weakening and declining here is china. Delusional chinese bots can't go 5mins without wanking to the dream of global domination and being the master-race respected by every other inferior being. By 2050 Palestine will be erased from the map, china will have to deal with a majority elderly population, and an economy increasingly depended on domestic consumption while reaching nowhere near the economic development of it's biggest boogeyman the USA, who meanwhile will retain their top spot owing to highly skilled migrant intake. The bubble will burst soon enough.

 

[shade]

How long do you think Iran can sustain arming both Houthis and Hamas, versus the Americans who can print dollars to arm Israel?

I truly wonder how Iran is managing to fund so many conflicts across the region with a tiny economy like theirs. They are not poor but they are not rich as well.

To be able to take on so many elements at the same time is pretty impressive - Funding Hamas terrorists, arming Hezbollah, funding the Syrian pro-Assad fighters, funding the Houthis... all these are proxies but there is still a lot of money that goes to making arms, training and paying these guys to sustain a fight.

It's cheaper than having a stong formal Armed Forces.
Iran still runs vintage American maal from the time of the Shah, aside from drama and fake mock ups of "Made in Iran" weaponry

The point behind these jihadi groups is not to win but to exert leverage and pressure, Irani goal is to keep stirring the pot.

The leverage is, incase someone decides to Free and Democratize Iran, the Mullahs have the nuclear option of getting all these groups to chimp out and set the whole ME on fire.

They have guys in Iraq( militia + political party, in coalition govt atm ), Bashars boys in Syria, Hamas in Israel/Palestine, Houthis in Yemen, Hizbullah in Lebanon( militia + political party, in coalition govt atm )

TLDR is basically jihadi groups are more useful for their regime-preservation/national security perspective than a formal armed forces, that's where their budget goes.
Because against America it is jihad and insurgencies that work, not a muscular formal armed forces with all new toys.

 

[Corvus Splendens]

This is the dumb chinese bot's idea of peacemaking and maintaining "good relations" with Israel.

Hamas ‘using massive stockpile of Chinese weaponry’ in Gaza

IDF uncovers items such as assault rifles, grenade launchers, and telescopic sights for rifles and cartridges for M16s

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[ovalpiston]

How long do you think Iran can sustain arming both Houthis and Hamas, versus the Americans who can print dollars to arm Israel?

I truly wonder how Iran is managing to fund so many conflicts across the region with a tiny economy like theirs. They are not poor but they are not rich as well.

To be able to take on so many elements at the same time is pretty impressive - Funding Hamas terrorists, arming Hezbollah, funding the Syrian pro-Assad fighters, funding the Houthis... all these are proxies but there is still a lot of money that goes to making arms, training and paying these guys to sustain a fight.

US arms Israel with multi-billion dollar weapons like fighter jets, iron dome, jdams etc. Iran is supplying Hamas, Hezbollah and Houthis with low level weaponry like unguided rockets, RPGs, anti-tank weapons, drones etc Iran's way of fighting wars post-islamic revolution has always been through attrition. Use cheap speedboats to harass battleships, use cheap chinese drones to overwhelm radar systems, use IEDs and anti-tank mines to destroy enemy armor. Iran can fund dozens of such organization when all you need to do is supply low level weaponry. Besides, Palestinians get billions in aid from rich middle eastern countries, diaspora Palestinians, muslim charities and even the west, in the absence of investing all that money on their population, all they do is buy weapons. On a side note, the combined wealth of Hamas' leadership is said to be north of $15 billion! One can only imagine what pile of cash Palestinian Authority is sitting on.

 

[shade]

US arms Israel with multi-billion dollar weapons like fighter jets, iron dome, jdams etc. Iran is supplying Hamas, Hezbollah and Houthis with low level weaponry like unguided rockets, RPGs, anti-tank weapons, drones etc Iran's way of fighting wars post-islamic revolution has always been through attrition. Use cheap speedboats to harass battleships, use cheap chinese drones to overwhelm radar systems, use IEDs and anti-tank mines to destroy enemy armor. Iran can fund dozens of such organization when all you need to do is supply low level weaponry. Besides, Palestinians get billions in aid from rich middle eastern countries, diaspora Palestinians, muslim charities and even the west, in the absence of investing all that money on their population, all they do is buy weapons. On a side note, the combined wealth of Hamas' leadership is said to be north of $15 billion! One can only imagine what pile of cash Palestinian Authority is sitting on.

They invest it in the population
To motivate and equip them for Jihad of "From the River to the Sea, Palestine will be (Jew) Free!"

 

[Love Charger]

It's cheaper than having a stong formal Armed Forces.
Iran still runs vintage American maal from the time of the Shah, aside from drama and fake mock ups of "Made in Iran" weaponry

The point behind these jihadi groups is not to win but to exert leverage and pressure, Irani goal is to keep stirring the pot.

The leverage is, incase someone decides to Free and Democratize Iran, the Mullahs have the nuclear option of getting all these groups to chimp out and set the whole ME on fire.

They have guys in Iraq( militia + political party, in coalition govt atm ), Bashars boys in Syria, Hamas in Israel/Palestine, Houthis in Yemen, Hizbullah in Lebanon( militia + political party, in coalition govt atm )

TLDR is basically jihadi groups are more useful for their regime-preservation/national security perspective than a formal armed forces, that's where their budget goes.
Because against America it is jihad and insurgencies that work, not a muscular formal armed forces with all new toys.

Shade bhaiya do you have the boodist wojak meme ?
You see , I have stopped looking at threads which cause me anxiety.
Like india china war thread , india pak conflicts thread , failed terrorist state pak thread , economic news of India thread etc .
I want to makke the wojak as a profile pic.

 

[shade]

Shade bhaiya do you have the boodist wojak meme ?
You see , I have stopped looking at threads which cause me anxiety.
Like india china war thread , india pak conflicts thread , failed terrorist state pak thread , economic news of India thread etc .
I want to makke the wojak as a profile pic.

 

[Love Charger]

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