Israel - Hamas Gaza Conflict Oct-2023

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DC is ultra lib city, 50-60% population is black there. You won't see such protests in red areas.
People were bused from all over the east coast to DC, its been going on for 3 weeks now every weekend. They are extremely well funded and well organized as one expects leftists and islamists to be. US is around 10-15 yrs behind Europe when Islamists will begin hitting the streets regularly for one cause or another.
 

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There's a great book that talks about this: Skin in the game, by Nassim Nicholas Taleb

The only way to put the fear of god into terrorists(who don't even fear death) is to threaten what they love(in this example, their family)

The question then becomes: how do you deter a terrorist with no family?
By having a tea and biscuits session with extended family.
 

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Ah soviet union.
Lol the KGB station commander literally threatened the Ayatollah of Beirut " a great power cannot wait for ever, and we are not talking about Beirut but Tehran and qom you see qom is not far away from USSR, there might be mistakes in launching a missile and God or allah forbid if that happened to a armed missile !."
The Ayatollah was visibly very shaken.
 

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By having a tea and biscuits session with extended family.
Well that too, but if you look at it, someone else is also radicalizing the fella(maybe local Imam, or guy who promises 72 hoors), so the next best thing is to go after him, there is a great probability that he has a family - do it on a country-wide basis and maybe you might end up de-radicalizing and disencouraging such violent practices as a whole.

Interestingly, Chanakya's Arthshastra also mentions a few things like these to control a man(who may be in high positions of power, or someone important to sabotage another kingdom/spying efforts. Would recommend reading it - haven't finished it fully myself but it's full of wisdom in dealing with such matters, even if only for day to day life)
 

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It's the same with every abrahamic religion. Who's the most rabid follower competition.
It's a bit more complex than that. For the initial decades after the state of Israel was established the Ashkenazi were the dominant elite lording it over the Sephardic , the Mizrahim & the other Jewish communities who were miniscule. In fact the overall consensus among the elite was that the Mizrahim were not only backward & therefore an embarrassment but they faced racism & marginalization by the dominant elite which culminated in quite a few riots.

It's only in the 1970s that as their population grew , they set up their own political parties which in turn got into a coalition with Likud headed by a politically rehabilitated Menachem Begin who then became the PM breaking the monopoly over power by the Labour & the Ashkenazi.

Underneath the surface there's still a lot of tension between these groupings . The Ashkenazi is more likely to settle in the west & hold dual citizenship unlike the Sephardic or the Mizrahim who live on in Israel ready to face hardships there. That's one among plenty of other sticking points in their adversarial relationship with each other. Moreover the TFR of the Ashkenazi is rumoured to be around replacement level compared to the Mizrahim who've a TFR of anywhere between 3.0-3.50 if not more. And the latter are among the more conservative / orthodox Jews in Israel.

More than anything else , that should be an indicative of the future of Israel - its policies , its politics , etc.
 

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People were bused from all over the east coast to DC, its been going on for 3 weeks now every weekend. They are extremely well funded and well organized as one expects leftists and islamists to be. US is around 10-15 yrs behind Europe when Islamists will begin hitting the streets regularly for one cause or another.
One worrying observation that I have noticed is that on Oct 7 - besides Muslims, literally no one else was supporting Palestine and Hamas brutality.

As time went by, and Tik tok activism has come into support, I am seeing wide spread support (particularly among younger people) for Hamas and Palestinian causes.

I’m seeing more and more young white/Hispanic/black people tearing down posters of kidnapped kids - it’s a worrying trend on how social media can really affect the narrative (truth be damned) - particularly Tik Tok which is China owned.
 

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