Israel - Hamas Gaza Conflict Oct-2023

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But how is this related to this ? Hamas have accepted that they did this and noone is denying it?
Israel is bombing people indiscriminately for ulterior motives it's never been about counter terrorism. Hamas is their scape goat at this point they are going for wiping out the native population to occupy it.
 

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Israel is bombing people indiscriminately for ulterior motives it's never been about counter terrorism. Hamas is their scape goat at this point they are going for wiping out the native population to occupy it.
Biggest difference which you are DISHONESTLY ignoring is that in US case victims were not informed about incoming attack. But Israel warns civilians to evacuate the dual purpose HAMAS BASE.
 
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Israel is bombing people indiscriminately for ulterior motives it's never been about counter terrorism. Hamas is their scape goat at this point they are going for wiping out the native population to occupy it.
But again that was not the question here was it? The debate will end right here just say these words " Hamas is a terrorist org. and it has nothing to do with palestine" and not a word more
 

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Only a terrorist will trust the numbers coming from another terrorist organisation.

From your UN article.




This is maybe 5th time I'm pointing out your dishonest claim regarding to death toll coming from UN.
You are calling basic probability as believing terrorists. We know as a fact what percentage children make up in Gaza. We know how Israel has been bombing civs , saying a population dominated by civs under 18 don't make up casualties from indiscriminate bombardment is nonsense.
 

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You are calling basic probability as believing terrorists. We know as a fact what percentage children make up in Gaza. We know how Israel has been bombing civs , saying a population dominated by civs under 18 don't make up casualties from indiscriminate bombardment is nonsense.
Believing terrorist organisation's numbers isn't called "basic probability".

For basics-
First your terrorist organisation Hamas gotta prove that even 8000 died , then we can talk 40-50% of them being under 18.
 

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Biggest difference you are DISHONESTLY ignoring is that in US case victims were not informed about incoming attack. But Israel warns civilians to evacuate the dual purpose HAMAS BASE.
The fact that you can claim this , while Israel carpet bombs refugee camps, safe routes that their government themselves tell gazans to take is mind boggling . You can believe what you want. I'm not biased I'm factual to know who I'm talking about and what they are capable of.
 

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The fact that you can claim this , while Israel carpet bombs refugee camps, safe routes that their government themselves tell gazans to take is mind boggling . You can believe what you want. I'm not biased I'm factual to know who I'm talking about and what they are capable of.
How are you not biased ?
You are not factual , you just blindly trust a terrorist organisation's number.

Israel literally tells which dual purpose terrorist hub they gonna bomb , and al Jazeera literally points their multiple cameras at the same building waiting for the bomb. So how can you say that civillians died in those blast is Israel's responsibility ?
 

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Believing terrorist organisation's numbers isn't called "basic probability".

For basics-
First your terrorist organisation Hamas gotta prove that even 8000 died , then we can talk 40-50% of them being under 18.
Gaza Health ministry figures casualty figures have in past Israeli campaigns like in 2014 have tallied with UN and even Israeli figures..
Gaza healrh Ministry are now releasing lists of dead people with Individual IDs and families of those dead, these IDs can easily tallied against UNRWA records.. The magnitude of the destruction and Area bombardment seen in satellite pics tells of a high toll.. UNRWA itself has had 70 workers killed.. YOu can imagine the scale of the deaths..

GAZA Death toll has now crossed 9000..
I am saying this as someone who can't wait for the Gaza death toll to hit 10,000 :megusta:




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How are you not biased ?
You are not factual , you just blindly trust a terrorist organisation's number.
Weather you like it or not they are the defacto authority, who and Red cross workers have expressed their outrage on the slaughter Israel is brought to them. It's important to read both sides and realise the truth is in the middle.

It's statistically impossible that the largest population percentile isn't the largest causality of bombings.

Israel literally tells which dual purpose terrorist hub they gonna bomb , and al Jazeera literally points their multiple cameras at the same building waiting for the bomb. So how can you say that civillians died in those blast is Israel's responsibility ?
You can believe what you want, fact is multiple"safe zones" that were classified by Israel safe to pass were bombed. Both in South and North.


Israel is as pretty as a nation can get. They bombed the head of al Jazeera media, Palestinian branch his entire family killed, because Al-Jazeera was messing up their PR.
 

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