Israel - Hamas Gaza Conflict Oct-2023

[Azaad]

If only indian kings and the useless brahmins assisting them had this vision... so many genocides of hindus would have never happened in the first place

Fun fact : in 19th century India Maharaja Ranbir Singh who succeeded Maharaja Gulab Singh as the king of Kashmir recognised the danger of being a minority in a Muslim majority kingdom & among the radical measures he was contemplating was re conversion of all the Muslims to Sanatan Dharma .

Do you know what happened ? The KPs vehemently rejected the proposal refusing to have any to do with it even threatening to leave the kingdom en masse if this project was ever executed thus forcing the Dogras to abandon their project. Within less than 150 yrs the KPs who've kept memories alive of all the genocides they've faced which amounted to 6 IIRC up until that point in time then faced the final such genocide which saw practically all of them quit the valley forever.

Whoever says the Gods don't have a sense of humour , however macabre it may be ?!

 

[Kumaoni]

If only indian kings and the useless brahmins assisting them had this vision... so many genocides of hindus would have never happened in the first place

True. The useless brahmins should teach there men to get beaten by 6 militants

 

[Marliii]

 

[Kumaoni]

Reason is indians suffer from two major syndromes:
1. Mera abdul ek alag hai syndrome
2. Me ek alag pajeet hoon syndrome

 

[justaguy]

Fun fact : in 19th century India Maharaja Ranbir Singh who succeeded Maharaja Gulab Singh as the king of Kashmir recognised the danger of being a minority in a Muslim majority kingdom & among the radical measures he was contemplating was re conversion of all the Muslims to Sanatan Dharma .

Do you know what happened ? The KPs vehemently rejected the proposal refusing to have any to do with it even threatening to leave the kingdom en masse if this project was ever executed thus forcing the Dogras to abandon their project. Within less than 150 yrs the KPs who've kept memories alive of all the genocides they've faced which amounted to 6 IIRC up until that point in time then faced the final such genocide which saw practically all of them quit the valley forever.

Whoever says the Gods don't have a sense of humour , however macabre it may be ?!

Didn't Marathas too do the same thing with their womenfolk who were kidnapped by the Jihadis? Finally the Sikhs accepted them?
Moderator can shift this comment in a different thread.

 

[justaguy]

Fun fact : in 19th century India Maharaja Ranbir Singh who succeeded Maharaja Gulab Singh as the king of Kashmir recognised the danger of being a minority in a Muslim majority kingdom & among the radical measures he was contemplating was re conversion of all the Muslims to Sanatan Dharma .

Do you know what happened ? The KPs vehemently rejected the proposal refusing to have any to do with it even threatening to leave the kingdom en masse if this project was ever executed thus forcing the Dogras to abandon their project. Within less than 150 yrs the KPs who've kept memories alive of all the genocides they've faced which amounted to 6 IIRC up until that point in time then faced the final such genocide which saw practically all of them quit the valley forever.

Whoever says the Gods don't have a sense of humour , however macabre it may be ?!

It was the Muslims themselves who pleaded to Maharaja for Ghar Wapsi.

A major event of Maharaja Ranbir Singh's reign which could have changed the whole course of history of Kashmir was the collective approach of Kashmir Muslims to him for being taken back into the Hindu fold. They pleaded that they had been focibly converted to Islam against their will and were longing to re-embrace their ancestral faith.
Ranbir Singh sought the guidance of Swamy Dayanand Saraswati, the founder of Arya Samaj, in the matter. Swami Dayand advised him that he could take them back in Hinduism after performing certain rites.

The proposed return of Kashmiri Muslims to their original faith was not to the liking of short sighted Kashmiri Pundits who were having a hey day since the return of Dogra Hindu rule. They tried to dissuade the Maharaja. When they found him adamant they took to a subterfuge. They filled some boats with stones and brought them midstream before Maharaja's palace on the Jhelum. They threatened him that they would commit suicide by drowning along with the sinking boats as a protest against his decision to take back Muslims into Hindu fold and that he would be then guilty of "Brahm Hatya" i.e. murder of Brahmins.

Ranbir Singh was a brave soldier. But he could not muster courage to face the crafty Brahmins, who were out to misinterpret the Vedic "dharma" for their selfish ends. The plan of return of Kashmiri Muslims to Hinduism thus fell through.

Later developments in Kashmir culminating in the en masse forced exodus of Kashmir pundits from the valley appears like the nemesis which has hit them for their un-Brahmin and myopic attitude at that crucial juncture of Kashmir's history.

 

[JBH22]

Reason is indians suffer from two major syndromes:
1. Mera abdul ek alag hai syndrome
2. Me ek alag pajeet hoon syndrome

None of this, H community only see profit and loss.
Beside personal growth nobody wishes to sacrifice anything. Rationale would be why fight for those who are already dead. Finally compared to other communities, nobody in H community congregates to discuss the society issue, vision and direction. The average H is clueless about India forget about geopolitics.

 

[Azaad]

Didn't Marathas too do the same thing with their womenfolk who were kidnapped by the Jihadis? Finally the Sikhs accepted them?
Moderator can shift this comment in a different thread.

Never come across any such instances unless you're referring to individual ones like Bajirao Mastaani . Ditto for the Sikhs. You could throw in the Rajputs & Jats as well. What you must recognise is the fact that such acts were mostly reprisals for what the Muslim invaders subjected them too & rarely took on the scale of that of the Islamic hordes.

Check out on the episode of Chattrapati Shivaji Maharaj & the daughter in law of a mid ranking Mughal official from Kalyan in coastal Maharashtra who was brought to him as war booty & the former's reaction.

Further you could also check out the episode when Amar Singh son of Maharana Pratap landed up by chance on the harem of Mughal commander in chief Abdur Rahim Khan i Khanan who was tasked with defeating & subjugation of Maharana Pratap or killing him & brought them before his father.

Although the above 2 are notable incidents they were the norm NOT the exception as Savarkar noted with regret in his brief monograph on Hindutva.

 

[Azaad]

It was the Muslims themselves who pleaded to Maharaja for Ghar Wapsi.

From what I understand this was a demand from a small section whereas the vast majority were hostile to the Dogras & their ideas of re conversion , who in turn treated them harshly.

 

[cyclops]

#Gaza map update. #Israel has reached the coast south of Gaza City, severing the last route connecting it and the southern Gaza Strip. With this, the #IDF has effectively encircled the city.

 

[justaguy]

Never come across any such instances unless you're referring to individual ones like Bajirao Mastaani . Ditto for the Sikhs. You could throw in the Rajputs & Jats as well. What you must recognise is the fact that such acts were mostly reprisals for what the Muslim invaders subjected them too & rarely took on the scale of that of the Islamic hordes.

Check out on the episode of Chattrapati Shivaji Maharaj & the daughter in law of a mid ranking Mughal official from Kalyan in coastal Maharashtra who was brought to him as war booty & the former's reaction.

Further you could also check out the episode when Amar Singh son of Maharana Pratap landed up by chance on the harem of Mughal commander in chief Abdur Rahim Khan i Khanan who was tasked with defeating & subjugation of Maharana Pratap or killing him & brought them before his father.

Although the above 2 are notable incidents they were the norm NOT the exception as Savarkar noted with regret in his brief monograph on Hindutva.

I was saying something else. The hindu women who were captured by jihadis of Ahmed Shah Durrani in 3rd battle of panipat and then liberated by Sikhs were not accepted back by the Marathas since the women were widowed and "impure". So the hindu women finally married the Sikh soldiers.
I was pointing out the weird mentality of Hindus to not take back their brothers and sisters who were converted to different religions.

 

[Jimih]

Can any one explain this further? This is an Interesting topic aviation enthusiasts and experts have to provide more clarity on the following tweet. It is a humble request.


Question No1: Why Israel is using advanced F-35 Jets for shooting Incoming missiles rather than relying upon ground based air defense system to shoot down Houthi Missiles?

Looks like their AD systems like Iron Dome is in need of dire replenishment.

Question No2: What role has the F-35 Aircraft played in this current conflict?

Israel wanted to expose its F-35 fleet to combat operations for a long time.

F-35 is considered a ‘silver bullet’ strike asset to attack heavily defended ground targets at long ranges.

 

[Master Chief]

Based Russian Takla..



Ukraine be like

 

[Master Chief]

Fun fact : in 19th century India Maharaja Ranbir Singh who succeeded Maharaja Gulab Singh as the king of Kashmir recognised the danger of being a minority in a Muslim majority kingdom & among the radical measures he was contemplating was re conversion of all the Muslims to Sanatan Dharma .

Do you know what happened ? The KPs vehemently rejected the proposal refusing to have any to do with it even threatening to leave the kingdom en masse if this project was ever executed thus forcing the Dogras to abandon their project. Within less than 150 yrs the KPs who've kept memories alive of all the genocides they've faced which amounted to 6 IIRC up until that point in time then faced the final such genocide which saw practically all of them quit the valley forever.

Whoever says the Gods don't have a sense of humour , however macabre it may be ?!

The KPs faced ethnic cleansing in Kashmir Valley not genocide.. Kill 1000 to expel lakhs of KPs from valley was the technique used by Kashmiri Muslims..

 

[cyclops]

 

[indus]

When did Barry Allen conduct population census in 2 weeks?
Nothing you say or can say will ever justify slaughter of children in name of wiping out alleged terrorists.

Izlame has been the root cause of bloodshed across the World for most of its history and continues to be the same today. Its a cancer which needs chemotherapy treatment only.

 

[Azaad]

The KPs faced ethnic cleansing in Kashmir Valley not genocide.. Kill 1000 to expel lakhs of KPs from valley was the technique used by Kashmiri Muslims..

They recall it as genocide & they've named 6 before the one in 1990 , IIRC.

 

[justaguy]

The KPs faced ethnic cleansing in Kashmir Valley not genocide.. Kill 1000 to expel lakhs of KPs from valley was the technique used by Kashmiri Muslims..

it was more than a thousand. Gov tried its best to hide the figures. Also only a few could go to police station to file FIR as the hindus were no where safe.

 

[Azaad]

I was saying something else. The hindu women who were captured by jihadis of Ahmed Shah Durrani in 3rd battle of panipat and then liberated by Sikhs were not accepted back by the Marathas since the women were widowed and "impure". So the hindu women finally married the Sikh soldiers.
I was pointing out the weird mentality of Hindus to not take back their brothers and sisters who were converted to different religions.

Any references ? There are Maratha Balochi communities in Balochistan who trace their ancestry to the women taken by Abdali's Balochi allies just as there are Maratha Afghans with much the same story though both are very miniscule communities & at the bottom of the social hierarchy.

Just as there are instances of women or men not being accepted back into the fold having been coerced to accept Islam equally there are plenty of instances of people who undergo purification ceremonies & are accepted back into Sanatan Dharma.

 

[ezsasa]

If only indian kings and the useless brahmins assisting them had this vision... so many genocides of hindus would have never happened in the first place

this thread is not for Indian history, keep it to current affairs and on topic.