Israel - Hamas Gaza Conflict Oct-2023

[Abhijat]

US is busy arm twisting india through Canada and Qatar

Seems so, but to what goal ?

 

[SavageKing456]

Seems so, but to what goal ?

They want US military base over India
Give them proximity to ChiNa

 

[Hari Sud]

Leveraging Hostages: A HAMAS Strategy?

In 1979/80, Iran successfully negotiated with the US for the release of hostages. Iran detained 52 American embassy staff for over a year, only releasing them after the US agreed to unfreeze Iranian assets and lift various trade embargoes.

Now, HAMAS seems to be adopting a similar strategy. They are demanding the release of 5,200 HAMAS prisoners from Israeli detention in exchange for 220 hostages taken during an attack on October 7th.

The situation is complex. Countries such as Qatar, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia are intervening to encourage HAMAS to free the hostages. While many of these countries have sympathies that align with HAMAS, they also have significant economic and military ties with the US. And it's the US that's urging these nations to negotiate with HAMAS for the hostages' release. Unfortunately, negotiations have yet to yield positive results.

There is a glimmer of hope. HAMAS is desperate to see the Israeli blockade, which has resulted in a severe shortage of essential supplies, lifted. Recent discussions have centered around the possibility of HAMAS releasing a quarter of the hostages in exchange for the resumption of fuel supplies to Gaza. However, Israel remains firm: they want all the hostages released or they will not supply any goods.

This deadlock might persist for a while. Meanwhile, the substantial Israeli Army is stationed at the Gaza/Israel border, unable to tackle HAMAS in their network of tunnels.

 

[Abhijat]

They want US military base over India
Give them proximity to ChiNa

For intelligence collection? Also don't they have some in S.E Asia already ?

Seems far fetched. Maybe something else is cooking.

We got carrots in terms of engine, IMEC etc. We are seeing stick right now. But one thing is for sure they are in hurry, but why ?

 

[SavageKing456]

For intelligence collection? Also don't they have some in S.E Asia already ?

Seems far fetched. Maybe something else is cooking.

We got carrots in terms of engine, IMEC etc. We are seeing stick right now. But one thing is for sure they are in hurry, but why ?

Cornering china is US strategy and that includes using military base
You know the leverage US gets once it has military base over india?
Against China?

 

[Marliii]

Cornering china is US strategy and that includes using military base
You know the leverage US gets once it has military base over india?
Against China?

As if they dont have already enough bases and wojack countries to do their bidding near China's footstep.

 

[Abhijat]

As if they dont have already enough bases and wojack countries to do their bidding near China's footstep.

This.

Also would a single U.S base provide a significant leverage against Chinese forces ? Nope I don't think so.

More so , we are already in talks of acquiring HALE drones from them and thus intelligence sharing shouldn't be an issue.

Something is a miss in here, there was no need for Biden to outrightly say about IMEC when few days after attack, in a meeting in presence of RBI governor, our F.M and treasure secretary USA , it was said that current Israel-Gaza confrontation would not affect IMEC at all.

More so , about IMEC itself , is it being sold as some type of golden goose to Indian establishment? How beneficial would it be to us ?

 

[Corvus Splendens]

Noo our meatshields and movie props

‘They are shooting at people,’ Gazan says Hamas preventing evacuation to safety

IDF releases recording of call urging civilians to move southward to safety ahead of Israeli strike as part of military intelligence effort to minimize civilian casualties

www.ynetnews.com

 

[Corvus Splendens]

 

[omaebakabaka]

US is busy arm twisting india through Canada and Qatar

Sure why not, another of their misfire....Mudiji and team are doing good in foreign affairs but failed domestic affairs. As long as it stays in that pattern, US will take a walk....looks like we started issuing visa for cucks again?

 

[Corvus Splendens]

Qatar sentences 8 detained Indian nationals to death over alleged support and spying on behalf of Israel.

 

[omaebakabaka]

As if they dont have already enough bases and wojack countries to do their bidding near China's footstep.

They don't really, chinks played well in korea and vietnam to create buffers and Vietnam is anti US, so no land bases anywhere else, LAOS and Burma same, won't let them in, India should not let any foreign bases but should destabilize with US help in Tibet and other Yunnan regions under the condition that northeast churches should take a hike and other christian convert money stops fro good

 

[omaebakabaka]

Qatar sentences 8 detained Indian nationals to death over alleged support and spying on behalf of Israel.
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Harass their LPG tankers, we have a navy for a reason. Chicken out all the time is shit...ban aljiz and what not. Reaction need to be instantaneous

 

[Sikhbrah]

Qatar sentences 8 detained Indian nationals to death over alleged support and spying on behalf of Israel.
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Indians spying on behalf of Israel?

Who are these eight men? They are former personnel of the Indian Navy.

They have been identified as -- Captain Navtej Singh Gill, Captain Birendra Kumar Verma, Captain Saurabh Vasisht, Commander Amit Nagpal, Commander Purnendu Tiwari, Commander Sugunakar Pakala, Commander Sanjeev Gupta, and Sailor Ragesh.

 

[Jimih]

Indians spying on behalf of Israel?

That’s something I have not heard before.

Who are these eight men? They are former personnel of the Indian Navy.

Reported this back in April of this year:

They are accused of spying (for Israel) on a secretive programme to obtain information on Italian made, high-tech submarines coated with metamaterials that make their detection by adversaries difficult.

The name of the submarine builder is Fincantieri SpA, a Italy based shipbuilding firm. A total number of 2 submarines were placed on order.

Qatar wants to become first Arab state to own submarines. But their now got stalled.

Customers of espionage were Israel and automatically US.

 

[Marliii]

They don't really, chinks played well in korea and vietnam to create buffers and Vietnam is anti US, so no land bases anywhere else, LAOS and Burma same, won't let them in, India should not let any foreign bases but should destabilize with US help in Tibet and other Yunnan regions under the condition that northeast churches should take a hike and other christian convert money stops fro good

Land bases are almost useless for a power like US especially against china. The amount of naval and airbases in korea, japan along with the coming ones in the Philippines and one bomber base is Australia, singapore being a choke point. People dont realise the amount of shit US has placed against china.Along with the fact that the only allies they have is northkorea and myanamar who is in a civil war right now. Chinese are Ls in foreign policy

 

[omaebakabaka]

Land bases are almost useless for a power like US especially against china. The amount of naval and airbases in korea, japan along with the coming ones in the Philippines and one bomber base is Australia, singapore being a choke point. People dont realise the amount of shit US has placed against china.Along with the fact that the only allies they have is northkorea and myanamar who is in a civil war right now. Chinese are Ls in foreign policy

Don't think so, look at Ukraine and if it wasn't an antagonistic country that bordered nato lands and only connected by Sea. Land bases are the key to destabilizing unless you are fighting a full on war with them directly. Our misfortune is land border with Pakis and Chinks and Chaddis. US has no major influence to impact China. Hongkong was attempted but crushed for good.

 

[jai jaganath]

Reported this back in April of this year:

They are accused of spying (for Israel) on a secretive programme to obtain information on Italian made, high-tech submarines coated with metamaterials that make their detection by adversaries difficult.

The name of the submarine builder is Fincantieri SpA, a Italy based shipbuilding firm. A total number of 2 submarines were placed on order.

Qatar wants to become first Arab state to own submarines. But their now got stalled.

Customers of espionage were Israel and automatically US.

Point is as far as I have read regarding espionage
If they caught u they extract the most they can and then they eliminate u without any pick in media forget such coverage
I don't remember but I also read or watched a video where a known person said if some nation is stating espionage angle against one and then bringing the issue to courts then trails then all those shits then it's simple that they have got nothing but just want to leverage over some issue

Point is what Qatar wants from us directly or indirectly

 

[Sikhbrah]

Reported this back in April of this year:

They are accused of spying (for Israel) on a secretive programme to obtain information on Italian made, high-tech submarines coated with metamaterials that make their detection by adversaries difficult.

The name of the submarine builder is Fincantieri SpA, a Italy based shipbuilding firm. A total number of 2 submarines were placed on order.

Qatar wants to become first Arab state to own submarines. But their now got stalled.

Customers of espionage were Israel and automatically US.

Bigger question for me is - were they spying for self-interest/benefits/money or because of a directive from the Indian government?

Not a good look either way.

 

[neutrondrake]

He has Hussein in his name , but I will appreciate if there is any other reason.

It's simple, no one with power dared to substantially attack the first black prez as an institution. Dahnald was the one who came the closest to it.