Israel - Hamas Gaza Conflict Oct-2023

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"Another Iraqi record speaks to the subsequent Iraqi frustrations with Iran. A General Military Intelligence Directorate document dated August 15, 1991, reports information on the subject claimed to have been derived with the help of a sources in Indian intelligence. The document revealed, “Iran painted most of the Iraqi fighter aircraft and added them to their air force."

This paragraph is a part of a larger article about the flight of Iraqi jets to iran during 1991 first gulf war.
 

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Joe Biden says progress on India-Middle East-Europe Corridor could be one of the reasons for Hamas’s attack on Israel.

Could be true. China and Iran's hands behind the Hamas attacks is more evident with Chinese warships in Persian gulf. Also there could have Russian blessings. They killed multiple birds with one bullet.

Destroyed middle east peace process.
West-Islamic society relation collapsed.
Divert from Ukraine.
BRI alternative gets delayed.


Overall Biden again proved to be a croony in the hands of US businesses. Instead of stopping business with PRC, Tesla, Apple CEOs are begging them.
 
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Could be true. China and Iran's hands behind the Hamas attacks is more evident with Chinese warships in Persian gulf. Also there could have Russian blessings. They killed multiple birds with one bullet.

Destroyed middle east peace process.
West-Islamic society relation collapsed.
Divert from Ukraine.
BRI alternative gets delayed.


Overall Biden again proved to be a croony in the hands of US businesses. Instead of stopping business with PRC, Tesla, Apple CEOs are begging them.
I honestly don't think so. According to WSJ, Hamas had been planning this attack for 2 years and at that time, I don't IMEC was even as a one-package project much like OBOR. It was most likely because Saudis were on the verge of normalising ties with Israel and following Saudi footsteps, many Islamic countries would've done the same. Besides, if they truly wanted to damage IMEC, they would've done it in a few more years when Saudis would've built the necessary infrastructure for IMEC to actually make them lose money. In my personal opinion, Saudis have backed out of this only temporarily and will come back in the medium term since MBS already knows that diversification of Saudi economy is critical to ensure that the kingdom would continue remaining wealthy in the post-oil era.
 

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Biden Says India-Middle East-Europe Economic Corridor Could Be Reason for Hamas Attack


Not surprised. Inferred it a few days ago.

China, Turkey, and Iran are destabilizing the ME.

The World must never trust these sub-human crooked civilizations, that they will not behave quixotically.

The larger question is in the last 70-odd years China has played a good game without getting the heat of any of the conflicts affecting its mainland and subjects at large.

This crooked civilization can not be allowed to play safe anymore. They must be made to appreciate the heat and filth of the dirty games they are playing.
 

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US looks cooked on every end. Their infamous propaganda medium were get overtook by Jihad propagandist. Deep state is overrated. They expanded too thin and faltering for some time.

Rus Ukr war turned a lot of tide. Now Iran fired up the ME region. Lets see how this is going to be.
 

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US doesnt look like a superpower anymore they used to anticipate and dictate every move of every country that mattered. But now their responses depends on which side of the bed they get up, everything is a contradiction of their previous statement.
 

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US doesnt look like a superpower anymore they used to anticipate and dictate every move of every country that mattered. But now their responses depends on which side of the bed they get up, everything is a contradiction of their previous statement.
They have plenty of might and Most ME countries not doing in support for hamas is due to US not allowing only.
 

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US doesnt look like a superpower anymore they used to anticipate and dictate every move of every country that mattered. But now their responses depends on which side of the bed they get up, everything is a contradiction of their previous statement.
I have said this from day 1 on this thread that empire is almost naked and running on fumes, even its overburnt printing press can't make a difference anymore. But if they retreat here on out from ME, then they are done sooner. They still have power to win battles just not war, and sometimes battles do lead to victory against odds. Starting Clinton, US has been sabotaged with greed and globalists and I doubt its leadership is upto task. Hope we get the jet engines and marine engines, the two most important things we need from west apart from semi's.
 

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I honestly don't think so. According to WSJ, Hamas had been planning this attack for 2 years and at that time, I don't IMEC was even as a one-package project much like OBOR. It was most likely because Saudis were on the verge of normalising ties with Israel and following Saudi footsteps, many Islamic countries would've done the same. Besides, if they truly wanted to damage IMEC, they would've done it in a few more years when Saudis would've built the necessary infrastructure for IMEC to actually make them lose money. In my personal opinion, Saudis have backed out of this only temporarily and will come back in the medium term since MBS already knows that diversification of Saudi economy is critical to ensure that the kingdom would continue remaining wealthy in the post-oil era.
Think... China always hide from direct confrontations with West, still they sent warships to Gulf, I guess there are compulsions due to certian promises they made to few groups/countries in the Middle east in case of imminent US attack due to Hamas actions. Now Chinese cannot hide when two carrier strike groups are already there. It was all pre-planned.
 

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This whole India-ME-Europe trade route theory has no teeth to this flare up....this is either Iran in conjunction with Russia backed by cunning chinks to stretch almost empty and confused western circus led by the more and more dysfunctional US. Only n-dimensional chess west is capable of these days is to sabotage and shoot themselves in foot but thats just a starting point before glorifying harakiri collectively as a win.
 
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Think... China always hide from direct confrontations with West, still they sent warships to Gulf, I guess there are compulsions due to certian promises they made to few groups/countries in the Middle east in case of imminent US attack due to Hamas actions. Now Chinese cannot hide when two carrier strike groups are already there. It was all pre-planned.
Pre-planned, yes. Hamas planned it for the last 2 years and there's credible sources to suggest the same. https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/is...as-planned-for-two-years-1VCaFNgV3H2e4bGsBUAm
My point is, this absolutely wasn't carried out to SPECIFICALLY derail IMEC. If it was, they wouldn't have carried this attack now and instead would've waited for the Saudis/Emiratis/Jordanians to start constructing their infrastructure to ensure a massive loss or they would've directly attacked Haifa itself. All this suggests is that, China is distracting the world from a buildup in South China Sea.
 

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This whole India-ME-Europe trade route theory has no teeth to this flare up....this is either Iran in conjunction with Russia backed by cunning chinks to stretch almost empty and confused western circus led by the more and more dysfunctional US. Only n-dimensional chess west is capable of these days is to sabotage and shoot themselves in foot but thats just a starting point before glorifying harakiri collectively as a win.
US is busy arm twisting india through Canada and Qatar
 

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