Israel - Hamas Gaza Conflict Oct-2023

Azaad

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Existential nahi hai yaar that's why they are so soft.
Existential is when like 3-4 Arab country's armies, supplied with Soviet maal and further bankrolled with Oil bux attempts to invade your country.

That has happened, the Arabs btfo, Anwar Sadat and the Jordanian Raja of the day giving their asses to the Jooz and Abbu Amrika for "peace".
Rest most of the Gulf Sheikhs have become friends of the Jooz, only residual palestinian love remains in their praja.

The war that needed to be won has already been won by the fathers and grandfathers of the current polyamorous, LSD, Ganja enjoying homosexual kikes.

Poliostanis can enjoy raping their women and beheading their babies, watching them trouser shiver over the hostages, but they get the big L in the long war.
As we speak the Jooz with the topi and wierd hairstyles are grabbing land in the West Bank, slowly boxing the Arabs inside ghetto cities, there is no viable state of Palestine inspite of n Green chimpouts on the planet

There are 19 Arab countries, and not one has the balls to wage war for the sake of their Jaat-bhais.
There are even more Muslim countries but even Iran doesn't have the cojones to get in the ring directly and 1v1 the Jooz

Jooz can literally not do any ground invasion and do a cheese-fire, aside from wounded pride and any psychological damage from being utter pussies, they lose nothing, not an inch of land goes to the Arabs, and in pure numbers of deaths they have already settled the score with the Gazawalas.

The strategy of the Joo is long term, like a python slowly squeezing the life out of it's prey.
Those 3-4 Arab nations weren't defending their territories, they were waging war to end the Jewish nation. What that translates to mean is they weren't as committed to their cause as their rulers hoped for offensive wars of booty & conquest require a different mentality which the Arabs probably lost after initially spreading out of the Arabian peninsula to take everything between Sind & the Atlantic in the first century after Mohammed's demise to establish the Caliphate. .

That they were indisciplined, lacked latest equipment, organisation, training, disorganized with different commanders having different objectives with no coherent C&C etc at least in 1948 were the principal reasons for its defeat.

Even in 1973 Yom Kippur war, Egypt which was fighting to regain control of the Sinai initially scored spectacular wins before eventually being reduced to fighting to Iiterally save Cairo before cease fire was announced. Were these existential wars? Of course they were

Now compare them to 20,000 fedayeen of the Hamas & nearly 1,00,000 of the Hezbollah. If they can collectively take down say 50,000 + of Israeli citizens & IDF personnel besides causing massive damage to Israeli infrastructure before perishing how's that not an existential war for Israel ?
 

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Like we see combat continuing in Marinka Ukraine, even if all of the town is in Ruins.. Ruins too allow for good defense and ambush.. So, this ground offensive will be long.. and Bibi Netanyahu will continue to be PM until its end.. :bplease:

Salient points of Speech..:

 

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Damage control - Hamas leader saying that no civilians were hurt on Oct 7th.

 

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Now compare them to 20,000 fedayeen of the Hamas & nearly 1,00,000 of the Hezbollah. If they can collectively take down say 50,000 + of Israeli citizens & IDF personnel besides causing massive damage to Israeli infrastructure before perishing how's that not an existential war for Israel ?
No dude. IF Israel only fights a defensive war, against 100k Hezbollah and 20k Hamas.. There is no chance in hell, that 50,000 Israelis will be killed..

How many Isralis have been killed by 5000 Hamas rockets ? 1 dozen.. ? MAX 2 dozen..?

How many will 100k rockets from Hezbollah kill ? Yes, they will wreck Havoc, but all of hezbollah rockets will not kill more than a few hundred Israelis. Even if Iron dome is overwhelmed .. I don't see more than a 1000 Israelis dying from these rockets.. Yes, a lot of infrastructure damage will be there.. But, it won't put Israel's existence at risk.. Far from it..

Hezbollah and Hamas, unlike the Arabs in 1967 war or 1973 war have neither Armour nor Aircraft.. They cannot hold Israeli territory for any meaningful period..

All, they can do is do hit and run attacks on the border.. With 200k Israelis being evacuated from Gaza and Lebanon border, the Sullas ability to do a repeat of October 7 is literally 0.. Any large force of Hezbollah ghazis on Gliders, Toyota pickups, motorcycles etc.. Will be blown up by Israeluli Aircraft, helicopters and Armour much before they establish meaningful contact..

Hezbollah and Hamas greatest threat is psychological.. These rocket attacks and October 7 attack can make a lot of dual citizenship Israelis to leave Israel for Europe or US..
 

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I think China's approach unironically might be one of the best, disabling local mosques, communities/imam etc. Even in foreign countries their diaspora live together reinforcing old beliefs - maybe the key is to completely break down and "brainwash" that part of the personality away
I read somewhere that the Uighur population of the 0-5 age group was half that of the 5-10 age group. Increasing rates of forced sterilization and abortions (unfortunately). The only real solution.

The "broken down" can always become "born again" down the road and rediscover their supposed Arab and Turkic heritage.
 

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"Professor" Christine Fair. Tbh Paxtanis esp Hira Mandi types can proudly claim her.
My my! What is good ol' Christine drinking these days ? From a rabidly anti-India and pro-Pakistan Georgetown University professor, to condemning both Pakistan and Palestinian jihadi tanzeems, she certainly has changed! Wonder how well her new avatar goes down with her far left, wealthy, super liberal, kaffiyeh wearing, Palestinian poster carrying students?
 

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Analysis of how W*stern university culture is subverted to justify any atrocity done by "oppressed people" to "oppressors" as halal.

btw just in case people don't realise, Indians/Hindus are classified as "oppressors".
Loving your avatar, who's that handsome dark nibba? Looks a Hamas diversity hire, they got DEI obligations too 🤔
 

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Biden dosen't have faith in the weapons he gives Israel to kill Palestinians ?
It’s quite simple. The sight of US citizens butchered/raped live on camera is the worst nightmare for Biden going into election year.
Hummus knows this and are playing smart. The Stockholm syndrome esque propaganda also working in their favor.

Having said that, if no decisive action is taken it will result in ‘death by 1000 cuts’ both to Israel and US in long term. Hence the hesitation.
 

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Now with Arms distributed to settlers.. they are killing a lot of Palestinians in the west bank.. Any US saying this is meaningless.. they will never punish Israel.. It's just some empty platitudes..
Israel waited for propaganda/ negative press to fade out.
 

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