Israel - Hamas Gaza Conflict Oct-2023

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Pakistan did not keep its word.

Why should we?

The agreement was neither honored by Pakistan nor enforced by us to impress upon Pakistan to protect their minorities.

We could test the waters by revoking voting rights of muslims. That would be a good start to invalidate their veto power.
India will always take the higher moral ground.

Pakistan did not keep its word, but we mostly kept our word post-1947.
 

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Jinnah and gang sold this idea that a Hindu majority India would persecute Muslims - as such, they needed their own land to survive in “peace” and practice their religion.

India never adopted the “Hindu only” or “two nation theory” - Gandhi and Nehru wanted a secular India built in the mold of unpartitioned India. This concept was key for the integration of Kashmir to India.

I agree that this idealistic views did not work in real life - Pakistan made their country into a 99% Islamic state while India is a constant confusion on what it wants to be.
Didn't even take 5 years lmao

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Jinnah and gang sold this idea that a Hindu majority India would persecute Muslims - as such, they needed their own land to survive in “peace” and practice their religion.

India never adopted the “Hindu only” or “two nation theory” - Gandhi and Nehru wanted a secular India built in the mold of unpartitioned India. This concept was key for the integration of Kashmir to India.

I agree that this idealistic views did not work in real life - Pakistan made their country into a 99% Islamic state while India is a constant confusion on what it wants to be.
Let's not be delusional. We would have been a worse country if there was no partition. My grudge with filth Gandhi(u) and (L)Nehru is giving away so much territory for such a small population as it was in 1947 especially giving away our core civilizational lands where our culture was born that is Indus valley civilization. We should have thrown all Bengal Muslims on the other side and squeezed West Pakistan narrowly along the border with Afghanistan by providing no sea access. That would have made sure we had our own Palestine who would been our bitch. Unfortunately, things did not happen like that and instead Pakistan is a bitch to 2 countries now.
 

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Pakistan did not keep its word.

Why should we?

The agreement was neither honored by Pakistan nor enforced by us to impress upon Pakistan to protect their minorities.

We could test the waters by revoking voting rights of muslims. That would be a good start to invalidate their veto power.
Let them implement UCC first, where every man gets one legal wife, not the current situation where a special group can have 4.

Besides what you have said is mungerilal ke haseen sapne with the amount of RR this will create from gora sahibs who give precious investment, loan moneys and precious business to our suit-boots, and such RR will result in sanctions.

We cannot fix "internal problems" while we have given our balls to the foreign powers over good economies.

The current trajectory is such that we will have good economies but also a burgeoning Ork population, and these orks will be the meanest and greenest, no Turk, Arab or Persian will ever be able to compete in terms of green-ness, wealth will rot the morality and will to fight amongst the kuffar, while the orks will go from strength to strength.
 

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Didn't even take 5 years lmao

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Pork eating British wannabe Jinnah (naively or willingly?) did not understand the concept of Islamic state and what it would actually mean in terms of implementation - be it from economics, legal or minority rights.

Once he was gone, Pakistan took the path that one would consider natural for any Islamic state.
 

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Pork eating British wannabe Jinnah (naively or willingly?) did not understand the concept of Islamic state and what it would actually mean in terms of implementation - be it from economics, legal or minority rights.

Once he was gone, Pakistan took the path that one would consider natural for any Islamic state.
Pack-istan was a Bri'ish project as much as it was one of the fanatical mullahs found in the Gangetic plain cities( ironically not one of the Punjabi/Sindhi/Pathan muslims ).

As you have mentioned, this Englishman trapped in the body of a Gujju Muslim living in Karachi did it not out of love for Islam but love of power. :troll:

We had our own Englishman trapped in the body of a "Hindu" Kashmiri Pandit from Allahabad, afterall one can't clap with one hand and all. :dude:

Even Packie land today is the bitch to the US since replacing UK, while it is the greenest country among all the countries, both "causes" are preserved
 
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Let's not be delusional. We would have been a worse country if there was no partition. My grudge with filth Gandhi(u) and (L)Nehru is giving away so much territory for such a small population as it was in 1947 especially giving away our core civilizational lands where our culture was born that is Indus valley civilization. We should have thrown all Bengal Muslims on the other side and squeezed West Pakistan narrowly along the border with Afghanistan by providing no sea access. That would have made sure we had our own Palestine who would been our bitch. Unfortunately, things did not happen like that and instead Pakistan is a bitch to 2 countries now.
Your grudge should be all the major sources for water in India was made a part of the partition.
Most people don't realize India lost land and WATER in the partition.
 
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Let them implement UCC first, where every man gets one legal wife, not the current situation where a special group can have 4.

Besides what you have said is mungerilal ke haseen sapne with the amount of RR this will create from gora sahibs who give precious investment, loan moneys and precious business to our suit-boots, and such RR will result in sanctions.

We cannot fix "internal problems" while we have given our balls to the foreign powers over good economies.

The current trajectory is such that we will have good economies but also a burgeoning Ork population, and these orks will be the meanest and greenest, no Turk, Arab or Persian will ever be able to compete in terms of green-ness, wealth will rot the morality and will to fight amongst the kuffar, while the orks will go from strength to strength.

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I know we cannot revoke voting rights as long as we are a democracy under the current constitution...ab kisne socha tha... ke pairon tale zameen khisak jayegi?
 

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Muslim Ummah against Israel and others

Demonstrations by Muslim interest groups across Europe, the US, India, and other countries highlight the unity of the global Muslim community in the face of perceived threats. This was especially evident following the tragic event on October 7th, where 1,300 Israelis lost their lives. While retaliation seemed inevitable, it's perceived by some that attacks by Muslims on non-Muslims are often justified, whereas the opposite is viewed with intense scrutiny.

It's disheartening to observe certain segments in the non-Muslim West who appeared critical of Israel once retaliatory measures began. For some, it seems there's a disparity in empathy, where Israeli casualties are seen differently than others. The hospital incident drew significant media attention. Preliminary reports suggest the tragedy was caused by a misfired militant rocket rather than an Israeli airstrike. If true, a bomb of that magnitude would typically leave a substantial crater, yet none was found. However, some media outlets were quick to assign blame, even as Israeli officials and President Biden refuted the allegations. This underscores the need for intelligence groups like the 5 Eyes Intelligence Alliance to provide clarity in such situations. If they failed to track the misfire, it raises questions about their surveillance capabilities.

Europe has witnessed a growth in its Muslim minority, a demographic change that wasn't as pronounced pre-WW2. Countries like France and Sweden have Muslim populations hovering around 9%, while Germany, England, Belgium, and Holland report numbers ranging between 6-7%. Throughout Europe, the Muslim community has shown its solidarity, often rallying against Israel. This sentiment is mirrored in countries like India, with a 15% Muslim population. However, the Indian government, while supportive of Palestinian rights, condemns acts of terrorism and unwarranted civilian casualties in Israel.

In the US, where the Muslim population is under 1.1%, some media outlets leaned in favor of demonstrations against Israel. It's particularly concerning when Muslim student groups at prominent universities allegedly influenced other student associations to issue anti-Israel statements without giving due consideration to the Israeli casualties. Thankfully, many of these associations retracted their statements a day later.

It's striking how, in times of crisis, Muslims from various backgrounds and nationalities unite in opposition to Israel. This sense of isolation for Israel was mitigated by support from government entities in Europe, the US, and India. The US, balancing both political and economic considerations, chose a more nuanced stance. While they offered military support to Israel, they also advocated for humanitarian aid for the Palestinians.

The current global landscape illustrates a division based more on religious lines than ethnic ones, and traditional superpowers appear less influential in bridging these divides.
 

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Jinnah and gang sold this idea that a Hindu majority India would persecute Muslims - as such, they needed their own land to survive in “peace” and practice their religion.

India never adopted the “Hindu only” or “two nation theory” - Gandhi and Nehru wanted a secular India built in the mold of unpartitioned India. This concept was key for the integration of Kashmir to India.

I agree that this idealistic views did not work in real life - Pakistan made their country into a 99% Islamic state while India is a constant confusion on what it wants to be.
Even a simple unicellular organism with no brain would have better view of the world to protect itself, Gandhi and Nehru did not fall into this world from another universe, they had to know what pislamists in the past centuries did to hindus....bastards are secret islam followers. There is no other explanation.
 

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Releasing this to the media so that they don't have to do a ground invasion and take on the casualties that such an invasion would entail + risk of Hizbullah attacking from the north guaranteed.

This is literally the best excuse :- "ebul US not letting us get our revenge :^) "

They can keep the invasion perpetually "stalled" this way
Israel is facing a 2 front war with enemies well entrenched and prepared expecting them. It took India 1 month to start the counter at Kargil intrusion. War is not your Call Of Duty kiddo. There are wheels within wheels.
 
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Israel is facing a 2 front war with enemies well entrenched and prepared expecting them. It took India 1 month to start the counter at Kargil intrusion. War is not your Call Of Duty kiddo. There are wheels within wheels.
US CBG is there ; if there is a two front war Hezbollah will be evaporated within a week.
 

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Israel is facing a 2 front war with enemies well entrenched and prepared expecting them. It took India 1 month to start the counter at Kargil intrusion. War is not your Call Of Duty kiddo. There are wheels within wheels.
1 month? my dude one year will pass and these guys won't move.

Perhaps they have already gamed it as it will take another 2k dead to avenge 1.2k dead without them getting to ethnically cleanse and anschluss Gaza, which defeats the whole operation, since the hummus will come back after the Israelis leave.

They aren't like us who have infinite guys to throw into the meat grinder, every jew there is a precious special snowflake to their govt and to each other.
 

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Hamas getting better at propaganda game. Likely being guided by their handlers in Qatar.

>Receive
This means the Red Cross walas will treat the hostages right?
Or does this means they are releasing the hostages to RC?
 

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Israel is facing a 2 front war with enemies well entrenched and prepared expecting them. It took India 1 month to start the counter at Kargil intrusion. War is not your Call Of Duty kiddo. There are wheels within wheels.
Neither Hezbollah.. nor Hamas..have any Armour or aircraft. Neither have the ability to mount an offensive into Israel and hold ground.. After the failed Israeli attempt at 2014 Gaza ground invasion, it would have been plenty clear to any Israeli military strategist that the only warfare that Israeli infantry would fight would be urban warfare in Gaza [apart from slapping around Palestinian girls in the West bank ]

But, still considering that Hezbollah can terrorize Israel with hit and run squads, and the imperative to evacuate 200,000 Israelis on the borders with Lebannon and Gaza, and make preparations for withstanding Hezbollah's massive rocket barrage (something that the Israelis should already have prepared for after Hezbollah rockets hit a lot of towns in 2006 war ), I understand that the preparations will take some time..
But, it is a War time Israel, and preparations should be fairly complete by 7 November ?

So, let's see what the Israel army does.. or will it be just the Air force doing its thing .
 

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This means the Red Cross walas will treat the hostages right?
Or does this means they are releasing the hostages to RC?
Or maybe Hamas thinks they don't need hostages to save their a** against Israeli Army..
 

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