Israel - Hamas Gaza Conflict Oct-2023

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Is this off-the-cuff remark supposed to be helpful in this thread?
Yes, this puts to rest any speculation you might have about the answer you'll mostly get when any Islamic country or peoples are considered.

They shouldn't exist. From the river to the sea, of Muslims, the land should be free.
 

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Afterall both ordinary Israelis and palestenians want to get on with their lives no?
Is this off-the-cuff remark supposed to be helpful in this thread?
You live on Kerela mate.

Describe the behaviour of Muslims you have encountered throughout the years.

That will answer your question.
 

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Agreed from Indian state’s POV, we should be least bothered who butchers who.

But speaking outside of our context, what will be your opinion?
My personal unfiltered politically incorrect opinion?

Speaking as someone in the defense technology industry - I rather have a healthy Israel state producing cyber defense technology for the world (like they have been doing all these years); than another Jihadi producing factory nation for the world to handle.
 

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Yes.
Without any sly zoo-ish land-grabbing that slides the whole thing backwards.

People more knowledgeable and experienced than us agree the two state option is the only real option.

Those who want destruction of israel are nutties like hamas and hezb. They can and will be neutered as part of the “settlement” with israel.

Afterall both ordinary Israelis and palestenians want to get on with their lives no?
As for Palestinians wanting to get on with their lives , the Hidden IMAM Mahdi says hello to you.
 

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Yes.
Without any sly zoo-ish land-grabbing that slides the whole thing backwards.

People more knowledgeable and experienced than us agree the two state option is the only real option.

Those who want destruction of israel are nutties like hamas and hezb. They can and will be neutered as part of the “settlement” with israel.

Afterall both ordinary Israelis and palestenians want to get on with their lives no?
"Those who want destruction of israel are nutties like hamas and hezb. "
Did Hamas and Hezbollah exist in 1948?
You remember, when all the muslims around Israel attacked them with the intention of destroying their country and murdering or raping every single Jew, down to babies?

Where was the two state solution then?
 

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Muslims going bonkers in support of Palestine in major cities in India.

What if the Israeli bombing campaign lasts a couple of weeks more?

Will Indian muslims take the path of violent protests?
 

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unpopular opinion but has to be said - Israel must find a way to coexist. It can’t expect its citizens to live in a state of constant mortal fear forever.

Palestenians aren’t gonna go away.
That's exactly what Israel wants though. State of mortal fear is good for their war-machine. Gaza, Palestine, Syria, Lebanon are and will continue to be live testing ground for experimental Israeli and American weapons. The current state of affairs is beneficial for the MIC's.

People would be surprised to know this but Israel actually helped create and even tolerated Hamas as a counterweight to the secularists and Arab nationalists at that that time. Conflict is beneficial.
 

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People more knowledgeable and experienced than us agree the two state option is the only real option.

Those who want destruction of israel are nutties like hamas and hezb. They can and will be neutered as part of the “settlement” with israel.

Afterall both ordinary Israelis and palestenians want to get on with their lives no?
The appetite for land won't go away with the two state solution. As muzzies will not be satisfied until whole World is turned green. Just as Pakistan was created as a two state solution for Hinduz but we ended up creating an enemy state for ourselves fighting for more land in Kashmere. Best is to never allow growth of green land
 

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I am slightly more optimistic.

These are days when saudis and assorted aiiiirabs want “peace and development” with zoos.
Because they are now not your greener-than-thou jihadis and just want to make $$$ for the non-oil countries and switch their economies to the oil free future for the Gulf ones.

Your average West Bank resident, "Israeli Arab" and Gazan hummus-voter won't settle for a two state solution, they will only settle for a Joo-free "Palestine".

And as we see today, it won't be happening.

In any case the Jooz have fixed the leadership of a majority of the Arab countries, given a few decades they will fix the matter of phool sapport phor Filisteen saaar from the Arab masses also, which is the current thorn in their schemes.
 

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Muslims going bonkers in support of Palestine in major cities in India.

What if the Israeli bombing campaign lasts a couple of weeks more?

Will Indian muslims take the path of violent protests?
source for this? checked the news and only found this times now video, in that the deenis are doing only low-numbers, placard carrying protests
https://www.timesnownews.com/videos...s-indian-cities-on-october-20-video-104598566

Btw the greens going on a chimpout is fully dependent on their mullahs and imams telling them to chimpout or not.
It doesn't depend on jooz bombing Gaza.

There are elections in many states in the next months, and the LS elections next year, they know very well that it is beneficial that the Hondoo remains in his caste census and reservation stupor, rather than panik vote for BJP after seeing the hordes of Bandar -e- Momin chimping out in every city of Bharat.

Their long bearded cleric leadership is very cunning and has good control over their flock, there were no riots observed after Article 370 gaya or after Mandir Wahi Banega ruling, as compared to in 2012 when they chimped out in Azad Maidan in Mumbai just because some Rohinniggyars of Burma were getting the stick applied to them.
 

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source for this? checked the news and only found this times now video, in that the deenis are doing only low-numbers, placard carrying protests
https://www.timesnownews.com/videos...s-indian-cities-on-october-20-video-104598566

Btw the greens going on a chimpout is fully dependent on their mullahs and imams telling them to chimpout or not.
It doesn't depend on jooz bombing Gaza.

There are elections in many states in the next months, and the LS elections next year, they know very well that it is beneficial that the Hondoo remains in his caste census and reservation stupor, rather than panik vote for BJP after seeing the hordes of Bandar -e- Momin chimping out in every city of Bharat.

Their long bearded cleric leadership is very cunning and has good control over their flock, there were no riots observed after Article 370 gaya or after Mandir Wahi Banega ruling, as compared to in 2012 when they chimped out in Azad Maidan in Mumbai just because some Rohinniggyars of Burma were getting the stick applied to them.
Plenty of incendiary speeches by mullahs urging qaum to ignore Indian state sentiments and come out openly in support of palestine, veiled and open threats of protests turning violent etc.
 

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Plenty of incendiary speeches by mullahs urging qaum to ignore Indian state sentiments and come out openly in support of palestine, veiled and open threats of protests turning violent etc.
Good then, they should chimpout and turn public sentiment against them.
Their paki biraders are trying stunts since many months now exclusively around Jammu LOC , The state forces can then use such an opportunity to fix both the problem of pakistanis inside and outside the country.
 

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No coexist with greens who want you gone.
And yes they will go away, you must see the amount of land grabbed in West Bank over the decades.

Perhaps all they will be left with is Hummus run Gaza
That is what was one of the causes that led to Hamas overwhelming Israeli defenses.. and killing more than a 1000 jews..

Unless you kill or expel the Palestian population in West bank, these settlers grabbing more and more land in the west bank, although creates facts on the ground, requires more and more Israeli troops to protect these right wing jewish yahoos from Muslim attacks.. Netanyahu took away many Israel Army units away from Gaza, to protect his favorite settlers, and ended up being bu** f**ked by Hamas in return..

Israel has a choice.. Annex West bank and Gaza.. and make every Palestinian an Israeli citizen.. a one state solution.. but that would mean a non Jewish Israel.. not possible..

Continue with the current siege of Gaza and West bank palestian communities.. take up more and more of their lands, and hope Palestians don't make a noise.. This is provingly increasingly difficult..

Kill or expel all Palestians from Gaza and West bank.. Israel likes this solution.. but almost impossible to implement..
 

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