Israel - Hamas Gaza Conflict Oct-2023

[Master Chief]

So this means that they are just pussies.
They want the star spangled goyim to do all the fighting and dying for them which won't happen, Gaza is an Israeli matter fair and square.

There is a reason al-Qutter got their hummus pawns to release the American hostages first.

Yup.. looks like unless dumb eastern Europeans (like Ukranians) or some other third world armies are available to fight a proper ground war on their behalf, no western country including Israel will fight one against a decently equipped enemy..
Spray (bombs) and Pray seems to be the strategy..

 

[spikey360]

Israel seems to have gotten cucked within 2 weeks.

Yea. They should have shot first, asked questions about later.
Btw, yes, this IS an era of war, and Modi is wrong about it not being so.

 

[Sikhbrah]

She did a good job - asking the right questions to Hamas leadership (probably a reflection of Saudi government’s stand on this issue).

 

[Cheran]

Kerala garment company to stop supplying uniforms to Israel Police

The Maryan Apparel Pvt Limited in the Kannur district of Kerala will not accept new orders of uniforms for Israel Police until the conflict is over. | OpIndia News

www.opindia.com

Kerala: Garment company in Kannur says it will not take fresh orders for uniforms of Israel Police, repeats Hamas lies on Gaza hospital bombing

The Maryan Apparel Pvt Limited's Thomas Olickal stated the company has decided not to accept any fresh orders from the Israel police force until the conflict in Gaza is resolved, accusing Israel of bombing hospitals in Gaza

Kerala Firm Suspends Uniform Supply To Israeli Police Over Gaza War

A private apparel unit in the district that was in news recently for making uniforms for the Israel police on Friday announced a temporary freeze on new orders from the force in light of the recent bombings of hospitals in Palestine.

www.ndtv.com

Amid war, Kerala-based apparel firm stops supplying uniforms to Israeli police

A Kerala-based apparel company has suspended uniform supplies to the Israeli police amid the Israel-Hamas conflict, citing moral disagreement with the violence, but said will fulfill previous commitments.

www.indiatoday.in

Kerala firm suspends uniform supply to Israeli police citing moral grounds

www.deccanherald.com

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Take that jew...

 

[ovalpiston]

Hamas' tier 1 and most likely tier 2 leadership have long left Gaza. Any invasion will turn into long, bloody war for Israel. No one more than Iran, Hezbollah and Hamas would want Israel to enter Gaza so they are bled dry . And without the leadership, you are just eliminating a bunch of rag tag canon fodder who will be replaced in days.

What is likely is a long drawn negotiation and prisoner swap for hostages. Hamas will not return all Israelis and that may make Israelis enter Gaza at some point for a short period without intentions of just being there forever. What Israel must do, however, is take land in north and west of Gaza, nothing is more precious than land to the Gazans, and it will make Hamas unpopular if they end up losing territory. Secondly, continue to make everyday life difficult, water pressure, bandwidth, scattered TV signal, food, as inhuman as it may sound, if you want people to revolt against their rulers, then make everyday life difficult.

 

[shade]

Hamas' tier 1 and most likely tier 2 leadership have long left Gaza. Any invasion will turn into long, bloody war for Israel. No one more than Iran, Hezbollah and Hamas would want Israel to enter Gaza so they are bled dry . And without the leadership, you are just eliminating a bunch of rag tag canon fodder who will be replaced in days.

What is likely is a long drawn negotiation and prisoner swap for hostages. Hamas will not return all Israelis and that may make Israelis enter Gaza at some point for a short period without intentions of just being there forever. What Israel must do, however, is take land in north and west of Gaza, nothing is more precious than land to the Gazans, and it will make Hamas unpopular if they end up losing territory. Secondly, continue to make everyday life difficult, water pressure, bandwidth, scattered TV signal, food, as inhuman as it may sound, if you want people to revolt against their rulers, then make everyday life difficult.

If they want the Gazawalas to revolt, they need to either show Hummus as weak or incompetent OR show them to be sold out.

 

[here2where]

Hamas' tier 1 and most likely tier 2 leadership have long left Gaza. Any invasion will turn into long, bloody war for Israel. No one more than Iran, Hezbollah and Hamas would want Israel to enter Gaza so they are bled dry . And without the leadership, you are just eliminating a bunch of rag tag canon fodder who will be replaced in days.

What is likely is a long drawn negotiation and prisoner swap for hostages. Hamas will not return all Israelis and that may make Israelis enter Gaza at some point for a short period without intentions of just being there forever. What Israel must do, however, is take land in north and west of Gaza, nothing is more precious than land to the Gazans, and it will make Hamas unpopular if they end up losing territory. Secondly, continue to make everyday life difficult, water pressure, bandwidth, scattered TV signal, food, as inhuman as it may sound, if you want people to revolt against their rulers, then make everyday life difficult.

Revolt?
Against hamas?
Ha
Piggies will fly sooner.

Everything will be as usual placed at the evil zoo’s doorstep.

unpopular opinion but has to be said - Israel must find a way to coexist. It can’t expect its citizens to live in a state of constant mortal fear forever.

Palestenians aren’t gonna go away.

 

[shade]

Revolt?
Against hamas?
Ha
Piggies will fly sooner.

Everything will be as usual placed at the evil zoo’s doorstep.

unpopular opinion but has to be said - Israel must find a way to coexist. It can’t expect its citizens to live in a state of constant mortal fear forever.

Palestenians aren’t gonna go away.

No coexist with greens who want you gone.
And yes they will go away, you must see the amount of land grabbed in West Bank over the decades.

Perhaps all they will be left with is Hummus run Gaza

 

[here2where]

you must see the amount of land grabbed in West Bank over the decades.

Root cause of this constant cycle of violence that achieves nothing on both sides.

 

[Sikhbrah]

Revolt?
Against hamas?
Ha
Piggies will fly sooner.

Everything will be as usual placed at the evil zoo’s doorstep.

unpopular opinion but has to be said - Israel must find a way to coexist. It can’t expect its citizens to live in a state of constant mortal fear forever.

Palestenians aren’t gonna go away.

Do you think giving Palestinians a legitimate state with a political and military arm will solve this issue?

“From river to sea, Palestine will be free.”

You would be creating a nation state who’s existent is bent on destroying Israel - further endangering the citizens of Israel.

It’s the same naivety shown when people thought giving Pakistan a huge chunk of Indian land to create their own state would solve this Hindu-Muslim animosity.

 

[shade]

Root cause of this constant cycle of violence that achieves nothing on both sides.

Root cause is green religion.
It makes them unable to settle for any compromise
They chopped up the country here too because of their greenest peacefulest and bestest mazhub

 

[here2where]

Do you think giving Palestinians a legitimate state with a political and military arm will solve this issue?

Yes.
Without any sly zoo-ish land-grabbing that slides the whole thing backwards.

People more knowledgeable and experienced than us agree the two state option is the only real option.

Those who want destruction of israel are nutties like hamas and hezb. They can and will be neutered as part of the “settlement” with israel.

Afterall both ordinary Israelis and palestenians want to get on with their lives no?

 

[shade]

Yes.
Without any sly zoo-ish land-grabbing that slides the whole thing backwards.

People more knowledgeable and experienced than us agree the two state option is the only real option.

Those who want destruction of israel are nutties like hamas and hezb. They can and will be neutered as part of the “settlement” with israel.

Afterall both ordinary Israelis and palestenians want to get on with their lives no?

Ordinary Filastinis want the whole area to be in their control and also Joo mukt.
Israelis would be happy with some peace so they can smoke their blunts and shag their boyfriends, but kya kare, green bros just can't let them.

 

[here2where]

Ordinary Filastinis want the whole area to be in their control and also Joo mukt.
Israelis would be happy with some peace so they can smoke their blunts and shag their boyfriends, but kya kare, green bros just can't let them.

I am slightly more optimistic.

These are days when saudis and assorted aiiiirabs want “peace and development” with zoos.

 

[Sikhbrah]

People more knowledgeable and experienced than us agree the two state option is the only real option.

One idea that is core to the Muslim identity is land conquered will never be given up to a non-believer. They take it as a lost to Islam if that happens.

The “knowledgeable and experience people” that you mention want to propose a quick fix that they think will keep both parties happy, without any long term consideration of the regions future.

Again, this bears a lot of similarities to historical Hindu-Muslim relationship.

They would only be creating two adversarial military arms states that will constantly be battling each other for eternity.

 

[here2where]

One idea that is core to the Muslim identity is land conquered will never be given up to a non-believer. They take it as a lost to Islam if that happens.

The “knowledgeable and experience people” that you mention want to propose a quick fix that they think will keep both parties happy, without any long term consideration of the regions future.

Again, this bears a lot of similarities to historical Hindu-Muslim relationship.

They would only be creating two adversarial military arms states that will constantly be battling each other for eternity.

Are you saying state of Palestine should not exist?

 

[Sanglamorre]

Are you saying state of Palestine should not exist?

As a rule, Islam and Muslims shouldn't exist.

 

[Sikhbrah]

Are you saying state of Palestine should not exist?

I’m looking at this from the lense of Indian interest.

The same way we are not supporting Uighur or Chechnya “self determination” efforts - India (as a nation state) should not be supporting or advocating for the creation of a Palestinian state.

 

[here2where]

As a rule, Islam and Muslims shouldn't exist.

Is this off-the-cuff remark supposed to be helpful in this thread?

 

[here2where]

I’m looking at this from the lense of Indian interest.

The same way we are not supporting Uighur or Chechnya “self determination” efforts - India (as a nation state) should not be supporting or advocating for the creation of a Palestinian state.

Agreed from Indian state’s POV, we should be least bothered who butchers who.

But speaking outside of our context, what will be your opinion?