Israel - Hamas Gaza Conflict Oct-2023

[shade]

While 100% its going to be a nightmare if and when Israel enters Gaza, I think there are multiple reasons why they are stalling-

• Hostages- obviously. It's over for Hostages as soon as Israel enters.
• US- there are multiple US citizens within Hostages. US may want them out before the invasion
• Planning- it takes time to plan for such nightmare scenario. This is like 5 times more difficult than Mosul and remember how much time that took
• Bombing is easier- it's a fact. It's easier to keep mowing from air with no casualties. Makes sense to go to flattened city than a standing city.
• What after- OK so Israel invades. And even wins. What after? Are they going to govern that shithole and get stuck like US in Afghanistan or Iraq? These are hard questions to answer.
• Media- people will die, mistakes will happen when Israel enters. And you know how media loves to make Israel the devil and hamas the saint.

Warfare was simpler in some sense in medieval times. Populations were simply slaughtered. Muzzies have no qualms in doing that still (Nagarno karbakh is just weeks old. Yeah they ran but they knew what was coming), but others can't and that itself makes their war 10 times more difficult. Not advocating it or anything just pointing out the issue.

So we will wait to see if there is anything. It's a tough situation.



I hope that's sarcastic cause by that yardstick we would be cowards number 1 in the world.

You forgot about the mass casualties they will get from urban combat once they do get in, and how Hummus has already prepared with nice killboxes, mines, IEDs, ambushes, suicide bombers and civilian human shields...

There is also the matter of Hizbullah invading from the north, and they have threathend to do so if Israel invades Gaza.

 

[shaktishivashakti]

As usual, I'll be keeping a close eye on this meeting of old farting men and women to anticipate the direction of : the conflict/market in the short term. Who participates and who does not is as important as the final communique, if there is one. Keep a scrutiny of who amongst the NATO members participate or not.

Source : Le Figaro.

Catherine Colonna to attend al-Sissi's "peace summit" in Cairo on Saturday

In an attempt to find a solution, Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sissi is hosting a "peace summit" in Cairo on Saturday, which will be attended by a number of senior Western and regional figures, including the President of the European Council, Charles Michel, and several heads of state. On the French side, French Foreign Minister Catherine Colonna is expected to attend, according to a diplomatic source quoted by Reuters.

 

[prasadr14]

Israel seems to have gotten cucked within 2 weeks.

 

[Jimih]

What is stopping the ground invasion. Its been days Israeli army is sitting at the border, loaded and stuffed

These Scenarios:

1) The Palestinian uprising begins in the West Bank and East Jerusalem.

2) Mahmoud Abbas cannot control the situation, and seeing that Israel is carrying out a full-scale attack in the Gaza Strip, the Palestinians start a total revolt.

3) Violent protests around the world against the unanimous support of Israel by US and it's allies.

4) Hezbollah intervenes and masses of its fighters from Jordan break through cordons across the border of Israel.

5) US launches pre-emptive strikes against Iran, and in return Iran retaliates against Israel.

6) Syria enters the war and attack the Golan Heights.

7) And the entire Middle East is up in flames.


These are totally not good scenarios for Daddy Yankee.

 

[DumbPilot]

These Scenarios:

1) The Palestinian uprising begins in the West Bank and East Jerusalem.

2) Mahmoud Abbas cannot control the situation, and seeing that Israel is carrying out a full-scale attack in the Gaza Strip, the Palestinians start a total revolt.

3) Violent protests around the world against the unanimous support of Israel by US and it's allies.

4) Hezbollah intervenes and masses of its fighters from Jordan break through cordons across the border of Israel.

5) US launches pre-emptive strikes against Iran, and in return Iran retaliates against Israel.

6) Syria enters the war and attack the Golan Heights.

7) And the entire Middle East is up in flames.


These are totally not good scenarios for Daddy Yankee.

A lot of countries in the middle east have bones to pick with the Israelis over what has happened in the last century. Syria is a good example as you stated. If I remember correctly, WW1 started the same way - a quick land grab, and an opportunity to settle scores - and before you know it, a lot of people have died.

 

[shaktishivashakti]

Catholic Church is pozzed world wide, atleast wherever goras are involved as priests.
The other churches are those state controlled ones where some useless King or Queen is head of the church, and the EKD of (((germany))).

In 3rd world countries it depents on your local priests, in India there are right-wing priests and leftie-priests but both become Congi pracharaks when instructed to

But yea, gooropeans rejected Christ for feminism, lgbtqwerty, freedom, democrazy and now they will pay the price.
They are godless and have no tribalistic urges that will drive them to violence against the green hordes, even in France.

Of course I agree with what you say and you clearly dont need my post because you for sure keep doing a meta-analysis of this minor battle in THE WAR that has started well before the French (and American) Revolution.
One thing that separates you and me though : I dont have your patience and devotion to explain it .

 

[prasadr14]

It seems the words of our Hazrat Maulana from 2020 has proved true... "this is not era of war"... [bcoz all those who are on the right side of history have either got cucked or are ill prepared]

 

[prasadr14]

We are on same side of the divide... but sometime I like to take shots.

Anways enjoy bobbatlu with gutti vankaya kura

I know..so, don't go all Balayya on me.

 

[here2where]

What is stopping the ground invasion. Its been days Israeli army is sitting at the border, loaded and stuffed

Bitter reality of a very high joo body count.

Gazans dont care for casualties. They reproduce very fast. Zoos don’t replicate at the same rate. You don’t want to go extinct wading into a mine field.

 

[Psacha1234]

The hostage situation is being milked perfectly by hummus. They know they are toast once all hostages are free.
For all practical purposes, the terror1sts actually got $100m for just 2 US citizens and they will continue to exploit it in phases.

What can even US do in the hypothetical situation where hummus also attacked some US base and took like 30-40 US citizens hostages after killing/raping some and threaten to livestream kills/rapes at the slightest hint of a counter-attack?
These guys are playing real dirty. If Israel goes and attacks and they execute some hostages in return on live tv there will global propaganda that ‘even Israel just like hummus has utter disregard for their own citizens’. It would be nightmare for Biden if US citizens are involved too.

Unfortunately the best option is to limit humanitarian aid and continue to choke the supplies of essential commodities, internet etc to secure hostages.

The core problem IMO that everyone forgot was the massive intelligence failure that led to this crisis.

Israel seems to have gotten cucked within 2 weeks.

 

[shade]

Bitter reality of a very high joo body count.

Gazans dont care for casualties. They reproduce very fast. Zoos don’t replicate at the same rate. You don’t want to go extinct wading into a mine field.

They do but the ones that do are basically Muslims, the LSD, Ganja enoying, Tel Aviv godless homosexual jews who call the shots in that country don't want them to be in the majority

 

[kittoo420]

You forgot about the mass casualties they will get from urban combat once they do get in, and how Hummus has already prepared with nice killboxes, mines, IEDs, ambushes, suicide bombers and civilian human shields...

There is also the matter of Hizbullah invading from the north, and they have threathend to do so if Israel invades Gaza.

That's why I said nightmare right at the onset. It's obviously going to be a trap of one kind or other

 

[shade]

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/idf-says-4-hospitals-in-northern-gaza-refusing-to-evacuate-hamas-using-some-as-cover/

In other news, the Gaseous Middlemen play all sides

Biden Thanks Israel, Qatar After Hamas Releases 2 American Hostages

US President Joe Biden on Friday thanked Israel and Qatar for their efforts to secure two American hostages released by Hamas. The mother-daughter duo has been identified as Judith Raanan and Natalie. The White House released Biden's statement on the American hostages released on Friday. “Today...

www.timesnownews.com

 

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BBC stops calling Hamas ‘militants’ by default after backlash

The broadcaster will now describe them as a group ‘proscribed as a terror organisation by the UK Government and others’

www.telegraph.co.uk

Joo Powa

 

[Master Chief]

Bitter reality of a very high joo body count.

Gazans dont care for casualties. They reproduce very fast. Zoos don’t replicate at the same rate. You don’t want to go extinct wading into a mine field.

You are being too nice to the jews..
Losing even 3000 to 5000 soldiers in exchange for eradicating Hamas is not that big a deal, if Israeli society is ready to stomach the casualties..
Israeli Jews have a high fertility rate of 3 children per woman. A population almost same as Azerbaijan.. If Azerbaijan with fertility rate of just 1.7 can lose 3000 soldiers in Karabakh war of 2020, why can't Israel ?

 

[shade]

You are being too nice to the jews..
Losing even 3000 to 5000 soldiers in exchange for eradicating Hamas is not that big a deal, if Israeli society is ready to stomach the casualties..
Israeli Jews have a high fertility rate of 3 children per woman. A population almost same as Azerbaijan.. If Azerbaijan with fertility rate of just 1.7 can lose 3000 soldiers in Karabakh war of 2020, why can't Israel ?

This is because of the Orthodox jews.
Who behave basically like Muslims which is why the high TFR, these guys will become the majority eventually and the rest of the jooz don't like them.

But then the Jooz are a weak race that cannot stomach casualties

 

[Narasimh]

the US democrat govt does not want a wider conflict which can cause crude prices to rise and wipe their chances in elections next year. Plus their morality war in ukraine takes a hit which has been a good PR. their support to Israel does not go down well with their core far left voter base.

Entering into Gaza is a costly affair and has probability of making it a bigger conflict with no predictable outcomes. But Israel will look to get a big win in one way or the other and so would the US (even though US might be discouraging them to enter Gaza).

So I think either there will be some big economic peice of cake being offered to israel along with UBL kinda operation on Hamas leadership in exchange OOORRR may be US is going to go in after all along with IDF by sharing some classified advanced tech to achieve at least 80% hostage rescue( seems not plausible to me though). And this may or may not be with consent from the Sheikhs. but this is my guess why we have not seen an invasion yet

 

[Master Chief]

This is because of the Orthodox jews.
Who behave basically like Muslims which is why the high TFR, these guys will become the majority eventually and the rest of the jooz don't like them.

But then the Jooz are a weak race that cannot stomach casualties

No.. Secular Israeli women .. in Israel too.. have a fertility rate nearing 3.. Infact the fertility rate among secular israeli women has increased since the 90s..

 

[Master Chief]

the US democrat govt does not want a wider conflict which can cause crude prices to rise and wipe their chances in elections next year. Plus their morality war in ukraine takes a hit which has been a good PR. their support to Israel does not go down well with their core far left voter base.

Entering into Gaza is a costly affair and has probability of making it a bigger conflict with no predictable outcomes. But Israel will look to get a big win in one way or the other and so would the US (even though US might be discouraging them to enter Gaza).

So I think either there will be some big economic peice of cake being offered to israel along with UBL kinda operation on Hamas leadership in exchange OOORRR may be US is going to go in after all along with IDF by sharing some classified advanced tech to achieve at least 80% hostage rescue( seems not plausible to me though). And this may or may not be with consent from the Sheikhs. but this is my guess why we have not seen an invasion yet

Neither Hezbelloh, Syria, nor Iran can do a sustained ground campaign on Israeli territory.. All that Hezbollah can do is hit and run attacks.. and launch tens of thousands of rockets.. which although very damaging are not an existential threat to Israel..

Remember, in this war, Israel is on the defensive in the North against Hezbollah.. and Hezbollah has practically ZERO ARMOUR or Air assets for any offensive ground campaign.. So, Israel can invade Gaza if it has the stomach for Urban warfare.. like in Bakhmut or Mariupol..

 

[shade]

No.. Secular Israeli women .. in Israel too.. have a fertility rate nearing 3.. Infact the fertility rate among secular israeli women has increased since the 90s..

So this means that they are just pussies.
They want the star spangled goyim to do all the fighting and dying for them which won't happen, Gaza is an Israeli matter fair and square.

There is a reason al-Qutter got their hummus pawns to release the American hostages first.