Israel - Hamas Gaza Conflict Oct-2023

[Corvus Splendens]

a big building like this was completely occupied by Hamas? hard to believe?

The IDF is consumed by the black rage. Anything that moves or breathes is Hamas as far as they are concerned. They have 3 US navy fleets and 10+ USAF squadrons watching their backs.

 

[SUPERPOWER]

what exactly is he trying to say??

Saala ekdum badiya maaal tha..

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Christians don't exist anymore beyond missionary groups who want to convert the 3rd world masses for CIA/NSA/Alphabet soup agency objectives.

In parts of USA there is still a strong fundemental christian tradition(protestant)

 

[Tshering22]

You are wrong on several accounts. Israel did provide moral support to Ukraine and denounced Russia's invasion in several official statements. Israel did provide material support to Ukraine.

Moral support in a war means diddly squat when asked to provide weapons instead. And no, Israel did not send their weapons to Ukraine; it was the US Army's ammunition stored in Israel. That absolves Israelis from any direct participation, as has been their foreign policy.

Check this:

Not only that, Israel bombed Syria, a Russian ally when Russia was trying to prevent the ISIS takeover of Syria which the US was letting happen.

Was done with Russia's consent as the Russian military had deployed the S-400 inside Syria. Without Russians looking the other way, Israeli F-35s and F-15Is would have been blasted out of the sky. Iran and Syria have been pressing Putin to supply them with S-400 since 2015. It was at Israel's behest that Putin did not sell it to them. An S-400 actively hunting fighter jets in Syria would mean IDF jets would never be able to take off for good.

By the way, Russia did Israel a huge favour by propping up Assad because Assad was the bulwark against the ISIS takeover of Syria. Russia did far more to provide security to Israel's northern flank when it saved Assad from destruction at the hands of ISIS and other Islamic factions.

The Israel-Syria issue has nothing to do with ISIS and everything to do with historical enmity since even before the Assad family rose to power. The enmity between them is more around Arab-Jewish ethnic identity, rather than Islam-Judaism, and has been so since Israel was formed.

And how did Israel repay the favour? By bombing Damascus and other Syrian facilities repeatedly and poking in the eye of Russia.

Israel is repaying it by keeping Israeli-made offensive weapons away from Ukraine. If you think that Israel was acting in Syria without Russian consent behind the scenes, you are in for a surprise. During Russia's combat operations against Western-backed ISIS/FSA fanatics in Syria, Israel was given the go-ahead by Russia to keep away from Russian military assets but to strike at their priority targets. Do you know what the Ruskies did? They turned off their S-400.

 

[shade]

What Palestinian territory ? The jews were also a part of the same Palestinian territory for over two thousand years, there was no such thing as a Palestine state, both jews and muslims were subjects of various powers including the Ottoman empire. As for why Britain did not carve out a land for jews in Europe, given the centuries of hatred, genocides and holocaust just years ago, it would be unwise to bundle all jews in the middle of Europe, secondly, Soviet Union would have never agreed to such a solution.

Israel has justification to exist just as Palestinians do. Trouble is the former is a democracy, it is also the one that has more than once agreed to a two state solution only for the later to commit barbaric acts in the name of jihad. When your rallying cry is "from the river to the sea.." you pretty much want to exterminate Israel, lets not act naive and behave like we don't understand what Islam and Islamists want when it comes to non-believers.

Fun fact, there is no such thing as "Palestine" in the context of it being a homeland to a specific tribe carrying that name.

The OG Palaestina is what the Romans renamed their province of Judea after the Jooz of the time chimped out in a massive intifada, the Roman then did the needful and out of spite renamed it to the aforementioned, after the Phillistines, a tribe of savages who lived unironically in the current area of Gaza and came from the Aegean Sea as settlers of the rape and pillage variety

Most of your Arab countries are the result of the chopping up of Ottoman territories among the victorious allies, and then giving them "freedom" OR the territories that some Sheikhs/Sultans have acquired by selling out to the Anglo and Baguette, It's all arbitrary af

 

[sameer3694]

when Britain gave palestinian territory to the jews for Israel why couldn't they have given
a part of Germany?? After all it was Germans that comitted th genocide?? A argument I have heard'
many times before and answer maybe a lot more complex then thought?

If you want a full answer to that you'll probably have to read multiple books. But to put it succinctly, Zionism was a very powerful movement since many centuries esp since the mid 19th century due to growing anti-semitism in Europe. The jews always wanted their homeland but never had the numbers, strength or the unity to actually make that happen. In a way, it is similar to the crusades where Christians tried to take back their holy lands from the Musalmaan.

Jewish immigration in small numbers to that area began in 1880's which was primarily supported by Zionists. But the real turning point IMO was WW1, when the Jews helped the British in seizing Sinai and Palestine(region) from the Ottomans with their spy and espionage networks(called Nili) and also the Jewish legion. They were later rewarded for their faithfulness. The Balfour declaration came in 1917 and creation of Mandatory Palestine by the league of nations in 1920 all of which resulted in further increase in immigration from the Jews. Rest as we know is history, the WWII, holocaust etc etc.

Nili - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Jewish Legion - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[LETHALFORCE]

What Palestinian territory ? The jews were also a part of the same Palestinian territory for over two thousand years, there was no such thing as a Palestine state, both jews and muslims were subjects of various powers including the Ottoman empire.

Historically Jews were settled there previoulsy just like Hindus were settled in afghanistan, pakistan,
bangladesh, tibet,part of central asia and southeath asia. Does this give hindus a historical right over these
territories today?

As for why Britain did not carve out a land for jews in Europe, given the centuries of hatred, genocides and holocaust just years ago, it would be unwise to bundle all jews in the middle of Europe, secondly, Soviet Union would have never agreed to such a solution.
QUOTE="ovalpiston, post: 2598526, member: 40031"]

Germany was split into 4 pieces , I am sure one piece could have accomodated the jews?

Israel has justification to exist just as Palestinians do. Trouble is the former is a democracy, it is also the one that has more than once agreed to a two state solution only for the later to commit barbaric acts in the name of jihad. When your rallying cry is "from the river to the sea.." you pretty much want to exterminate Israel, lets not act naive and behave like we don't understand what Islam and Islamists want when it comes to non-believers.

Agree Jews don't have to justify anything. But there is always a religious angle. Islamists
strongly oppose coexistence with any non muslims everywhere they are.

 

[Blademaster]

Historically Jews were settled there previoulsy just like Hindus were settled in afghanistan, pakistan,
bangladesh, part of central asia and southeath asia. Does this give hindus a historical right over these
territories today?

Hindus were not settled in Afghanistan Pakistan Bangladesh. They had been there for millenia before Islamist hordes came over and killed the lot of them.

 

[shade]

In parts of USA there is still a strong fundemental christian tradition(protestant)

Means diddly squat, that country is still a randikhana and run by godless liberal degenerates.

Christianity in the "religion influences politics" form received it's first greivous wound from the (((French Revolution))), the second greivous wound came from the end of WW1 and the fall of various Church-pasand monarchs in the West, the final blow was the end of WW2 and the 60s in the West, you know with the sekshual revolution protests, hippies wagera.

What you see now is exclusively a construct used to convert people in 3rd world countries, it has no political clout in any Western country.

The Pope and his Jesuit order are all compromised by literal Marxist commies for example.
The Protestants are CIA/NSA puppets, the Russian Orthodox church is controlled by the Russian state etc.

 

[srevster]

Historically Jews were settled there previoulsy just like Hindus were settled in afghanistan, pakistan,
bangladesh, part of central asia and southeath asia. Does this give hindus a historical right over these
territories today?

Yes

 

[shade]

Historically Jews were settled there previoulsy just like Hindus were settled in afghanistan, pakistan,
bangladesh, part of central asia and southeath asia. Does this give hindus a historical right over these
territories today?

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Hindus were not settled in Afghanistan Pakistan Bangladesh. They had been there for millenia before Islamist hordes came over and killed the lot of them.

settled is not the right word original inhabitants is better. In modern times if you don't fight
and hold the territory it is not yours??

 

[LETHALFORCE]

https://www.axios.com/2023/10/19/us-state-department-official-resigns-israel-military-aid

U.S. State Department official resigns over military aid to Israel

 

[shade]

Hindus were not settled in Afghanistan Pakistan Bangladesh. They had been there for millenia before Islamist hordes came over and killed the lot of them.

Killed some, converted the rest.
If they actually killed all them they wouldn't be LARPing as Arabs, Turks, Mughals, Persians etc, they would literally be those tribes

The issue with the greens is that they cannot live in peace with the kuffar.

Poliostines could have some DNA haplogroups in common with the Joo, but that doesn't stop their jihadi chimpouts does it?

 

[MuffleParch]

what exactly is he trying to say??

Pappu is trying to be a "Secular Statesman" in order to remove the "Pappu" stigma. Either Shahi Tharoor or Kapil Sibal wrote it for him.

 

[Sikhbrah]

Historically Jews were settled there previoulsy just like Hindus were settled in afghanistan, pakistan,
bangladesh, tibet,part of central asia and southeath asia. Does this give hindus a historical right over these
territories today?

No.

In today’s world, if you don’t fight and hold the land - the land is lost.

The issue is Muslims want it both ways.

In Palestine, they fought and lost - but can not accept that the land is not theirs anymore using the excuse that the Palestines were there before the Jews.

In other parts of the world where Muslim armies conquered the land (that technically belonged to others) - they use the argument that Muslims are now the majority in this land and as such, deserve their own separate Islamic nation (Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran).

I will give credit though that Muslim armies are better than anyone else at exterminating their opponents down to the tee for no chance of future reprisal (down to killing all enemy men and using their women to give birth to children who will be fighting for the conquerors agenda) - which is why you see very little minority population in almost all Islamic countries.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Killed some, converted the rest.
If they actually killed all them they wouldn't be LARPing as Arabs, Turks, Mughals, Persians etc, they would literally be those tribes

The issue with the greens is that they cannot live in peace with the kuffar.

Poliostines could have some DNA haplogroups in common with the Joo, but that doesn't stop their jihadi chimpouts does it?

97% percent of Pakis share the same DNA as the Kafir hindu (enemy)

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Pappu is trying to be a "Secular Statesman" in order to remove the "Pappu" stigma. Either Shahi Tharoor or Kapil Sibal wrote it for him.

by writing gibberish?

 

[Master Chief]

Freedom of L**d L*soon deleted

 

[indus]

Historically Jews were settled there previoulsy just like Hindus were settled in afghanistan, pakistan,
bangladesh, tibet,part of central asia and southeath asia. Does this give hindus a historical right over these
territories today?

Mate are you alright....
Pakistan, Bangladesh were part of Bharat just 75 years back and were carved out of it. Hindus were driven out of their ancestral lands to provide an exclusive land for the momins of the country. South East, Tibet, Afghanistan etc were peripheral regions for Hindus controlled by Hindu kings to protect the motherland which included the present day Pakistan, Bangladesh. Hinduz have historical right over these territories today and will be forever