Israel - Hamas Gaza Conflict Oct-2023

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and this is the best newspaper in the world. :facepalm:


Anyone that reads or goes to these rag sites are part of the problem and deserve what is happening right now in the world. Same goes with media news or sites, there is no precise and accurate news of any kind, you can only make overall sense and trend as a general citizen on a macro and historical pov.
 
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I don't think the west was too concerned about the bangladeshi side ? More worried about
protecting the pakis in the west.
Well, agree that carrying on the war in the West would have dramatically increased chances of US intervention.
But even if you had told the US that Pakistan might lose the war and East Pakistan totally, would they consider that enough reason to intervene?
Absolutely.

It's just that nobody would have believed the outcome of 1971 before it happened, or imagined it would be over so quick, because the West and Pakistan believed so much in their superiority after 1962 and their made up stories of 1965. Nobody paid much attention to what happened in Nathu La / Cho la in 1967, or what it said about the Indian army.
 

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Well, agree that carrying on the war in the West would have dramatically increased chances of US intervention.
But even if you had told the US that Pakistan might lose the war and East Pakistan totally, would they consider that enough reason to intervene?
Absolutely.

It's just that nobody would have believed the outcome of 1971 before it happened, or imagined it would be over so quick, because the West and Pakistan believed so much in their superiority after 1962 and their made up stories of 1965. Nobody paid much attention to what happened in Nathu La / Cho la in 1967, or what it said about the Indian army.
Accidental Sun Tzu moment

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Anyone that reads or goes to these rag sites are part of the problem and deserve what is happening right now in the world. Same goes with media news or sites, there is no precise and accurate news of any kind, you can only make overall sense and trend as a general citizen.
People wont realize how True is your quoted statement. That's why I not only stopped reading newspapers that I read with interest and I also get rid of TV and radio sets. Fuck those people who put garbage in peoples brain.
 

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Ok, you need to make it simple for a simple mind like me.
Tell me in which scenario US will use their armada and against whom in the present conflict Humus v. Israel. (Re Edit, the conflict as it stands today)
Edit :Because I may not understand what's in stake here, not being a military guy.
Sorry, shouldn't pretend to be a military guy myself, so pinch of salt and all that - but the scenario you mentioned, a direct attack on the US by a missile, is an openly hostile act and deems immediate response.

But any other scenario where they are merely acting as support for Israel (or Pakistan 1971) would be a more slow moving action on the part of CBGs? And unlikely to jump in immediately, plan in terms of weeks, as they would assume they have time to think, plan etc.

Which is why Bdesh 71 was not the right comparison was the contention. If you had asked the US at the beginning of that war, they would have imagined a slow moving war, with Pakistan holding ground. They never imagined they have less than two weeks to act and save Pakistan.
 
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Well, agree that carrying on the war in the West would have dramatically increased chances of US intervention.
But even if you had told the US that Pakistan might lose the war and East Pakistan totally, would they consider that enough reason to intervene?
Absolutely.

It's just that nobody would have believed the outcome of 1971 before it happened, or imagined it would be over so quick, because the West and Pakistan believed so much in their superiority after 1962 and their made up stories of 1965. Nobody paid much attention to what happened in Nathu La / Cho la in 1967, or what it said about the Indian army.
At this time India did not do an atomic test so US viewed everything thru the perspective of respecting nuclear nations and bullying the rest of the world. This bullying of India inspired Indian govt to do the SMILING BUDDHA atomic test in 1974.
 

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Sorry, shouldn't pretend to be a military guy myself, so pinch of salt and all that - but the scenario you mentioned, a direct attack on the US by a missile, is an openly hostile act and deems immediate response.

But any other scenario where they are merely acting as support for Israel (or Pakistan 1971) would be a more slow moving action on the part of CBGs? And unlikely to jump in immediately, plan in terms of weeks, as they would assume they have time to think, plan etc.

Which is why Bdesh 71 was not the right comparison was the contention. If you had asked the US at the beginning of that war, they would have imagined a slow moving war, with Pakistan holding ground. They never imagined they have less than two weeks to act and save Pakistan.
A bit of misunderstanding and nuances being lost in the translation I guess ;-)
I dont see any problem for Israel to crush Humus, it's not a big deal and I wont be following this news as I do if it was a Nth intifada followed by Nth Retaliation by Israel.
People here and else where speak about eradicating completely Humus in Gaza and as a supplement eradicating the Mollahs in Iran.
I dont see it happening and if it happens with direct intervention of US, I think that Russian will not sit legs and arms crossed, they also have their strategic interest in the region and they will help Iranians to preserve their interest.
We are not still there, and it will all depend how Tsahal conducts the ground operation in Gaza and how the other Arab countries react and Israel counter react. I've no crystal ball and none of us have it.
Thanks for you post on Yankees intent in 1971.
 

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That means the babus are doing their job. India cannot be drawn into this conflict. It must stay away from this conflict with a 100 foot barge pole.
They've always done their job in my opinion. I never really understood why DFIiites are so anti Babus. I was quiet shocked when I first came to DFI and noticed that.
It cant simply be the traditional opposition civil/military stuff hein ?:rofl:
 

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IDF channel on youtube released extremely graphic footage of Oct 6th massacre. It is very very graphic and gut wrenching! The Palestinians deserve zero mercy! I cannot imagine how braindead one has to be to equate collateral damage from Israel's targeted bombing to cold blooded murder or men, women, children and even pets by the jihadis!
 

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IDF channel on youtube released extremely graphic footage of Oct 6th massacre. It is very very graphic and gut wrenching! The Palestinians deserve zero mercy! I cannot imagine how braindead one has to be to equate collateral damage from Israel's targeted bombing to cold blooded murder or men, women, children and even pets by the jihadis!
feel free to share it with us
 

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