Israel - Hamas Gaza Conflict Oct-2023

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What groups? If US backs out its done even faster....they gambled in Ukraine, Taiwan and now ME...it will not survive this level of failures and retreats and frankly no empire does. It needs to rip Iran apart or it will be too late in future when Russia becomes even bolder.

US got the order wrong, should have done IRan, Taiwan first...no idea why they picked Ukraine and made it a sacred front....they failed miserably....quality of US strategists is piss poor now a days
I’ll start with one grouping where ties have improved dramatically
Saudis and Iraniians and Another is Turkey and Iran . Thirdly is Syria and the Saudis/ Arabs. Not getting into Chinese or Russian alliances

.https://www.deccanherald.com/world/qatar-iran-turkey-and-beyond-the-galaxy-of-hamas-supporters-2728936
 

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I’ll start with one grouping where ties have improved dramatically
Saudis and Iraniand Another is Turkey and Iran . Thirdly is Syria and the Saudis/ Arabs. Not getting into Chinese or Russian alliances.
Those are not fundamental changes and I meant groups forming against US....all these groups without China and Russia mean shit. US made a mistake gambling Ukraine first, rest all alliances are like sleeping with snakes, they will bite each other at any moment and cause. These are millenium level enemity and mindset in Asia is enemity forever generally, its always below the surface but exists.
 
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Those are not fundamental changes and I meant groups forming against US....all these groups without China and Russia mean shit. US made a mistake gambling Ukraine first, rest all alliances are like sleeping with snakes, they will bite each other at any moment and cause. These are millenium level enemity and mindset in Asia is enemity forever generally, its always below the surface but exists.
Russia and China have it easy to give support to already formed alliance . Chinese already pledged aid . Soon military aid could be given?
 

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Rusdia and China have it easy to give support to already formed alliance . Chinese already pledged aid . Soon military aid could be given?
Yes, thats why I said if US backsout now then its done and Iran will grow much stronger. Only India is a true counter weight to new world poles but west and Arabs (saudis and UAE) need to invest and make India a defence powerhouse to even have a chance. This is the only winning formula less than nuke wars.

India on its own just with GDP growth plan is a fail in certain sense without becoming military powerhouse....in times like these sharp and strong teeth matter not some paper gdp...mudiji and goi did very well everywhere else except domestic social retreats but they don;'t have the luxury to wait for 40 years to get to GDP levels....this has been always Indias underestimation leading to getting conquered
 

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US has to prevent Iran from firing its huge stockpile of Ballistic Missiles on Israel

That is why the 2 C.B.Gs are deployed

And now with Biden visiting Israel
Iran ,Hezbollah, and Syria will think many times before launching their Missiles

Also Turkey ,Egypt and Jordan are making Anti Israel Noises

Turkey and Egypt were sending Ships and Trucks full of Supplies for Hamas

Saudi and UAE are just watching the Drama unfold

They want US Iran war
It’s well expected a background support from KSA and UAE to finish off Hamas
 

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Iranians are not stupid they will win the support of the Sunni Muslim world then do whatever they plan? Divide and conquer which is the staple of western world hegemony is failing miserably.
iranians are not getting any support from the Sunnis.. KSA and UAe will make sure that doesn’t happen… normal pupils chants because of their hate for the US doesn’t matter here… Erodogan will do whatever he can do get some fame.. his selfishness has no bounds.. KSA this is the chance to weaken Iranians
 

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Has anybody provided any proof that human lives were lost at Al Ahli hospital in Gaza?

Haven't come across any. Just round figures of 500 dead with a vast disinformation social media campaign by the usual suspects.
Welcome to the 21st century propaganda machine! Even before the smoke had cleared and dust settled at the parking lot of the Al Ahli hospital, the islamists began cranking up outrage over "500 deaths"! Protests, riots, millions of angry social media posts, arson at israeli consulates and embassies later, it became clear that the damage was to a dozen cars adjacent to the hospital, and all evidence points to a malfunctioning rocket . All that doesn't matter, in the age of rapid news cycles it is "hit and run", you spread fake news, create outrage, sow confusion and move on to the next cycle.
 

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All right-thinking yehudis must want to skewer nut-n-yahoo for tossing them into the meat grinder.
there is wide spread anger against the idiot locally, and heads are certain to roll once the mess is sorted out.
He is going to go.
But ofc after the war ends.

These nibbers like want him to REJINE immediately and call for fresh elections like wtf.
 

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