Israel - Hamas Gaza Conflict Oct-2023

[Azaad]

Liberaliam promoted by the Semites to break the church is now biting them back. Our Bhasmasura has taught a Lesson for us: never do anything which is contextually comforting and ultimately destructive. Jews must give up liberalism. Which means 99% of media they control should

Truth be told the counter culture movement of which the anti authoritarian - rebel with or without a cause without a pause - hippy culture , feminism , support for the civil rights movement , pro choice - itself an offshoot of feminism , anti Vietnam war movement , the Stonewall riots , etc of the 60s & early 70s in the US was mainly a college phenomenon dominated by whites which quickly got hijacked to an extent by the extreme left of the democratic party which adopted a great many of these issues as part of its core agenda to boost it's popularity among the youth of the nation besides showing the GOP as a stolid conservative party impervious & indifferent to the demands & expectations of the youth. Further this phenomenon wasn't confined only to the US . This was part of a larger unrest in the west against the established social order . The students riots of 1968 in Paris is a good example of the above mentioned phenomenon. This also radically changed the entire landscape of the arts literature & cinema out there of which was born a whole breed of artists , film makers , authors , poets , philosophers etc .

The predominantly East coast dominated media like NYT , WaPo , etc certainly played their part in promotion of this culture but this was originally an exclusively white only youth movement which placed rigid emphasis on individuality over the collective , non conformism , liberalism etc . I don't quite think anybody in the US has undertaken empirical studies with an impartial eye on the monumental changes & effects these movements have had on those western societies till date for every such study , say for example on feminism is still undertaken by practitioners or at any rate by believers in this cult who've since doubled down on projecting how progressive they are , how far they've reached & how much more farther they're from their ultimate goal without quite defining it & defining it in nebulous terms promoting even more radical ideas. As an aside some of the most prominent feminists of that era like Betty Friedan , Bella Abzug, Phyllis Chesler, Letty Cottin Pogrebin, Vivian Gornick, and Gloria Steinem were either of partial of full Jewish origin.

Attached are a couple of links which hopefully shed some light on this anarchic phenomenon which began with good intentions seeking a fair deal like the women's suffrage movement , labour rights for women beginning with equal pay for equal work etc before taking on a life of its own

https://jwa.org/encyclopedia/article/feminism-in-united-states

Feminism in the United States - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

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[Azaad]

I wonder if anyone's noticed how there's an almost deafening silence on the 200 or so hostages taken by Hamas in the Israeli & international media. Of course I'm going by the limited reading I've done on SM . Suffice to say it doesn't mean that the Israeli government or its people have forgotten or forsaken them & I'm sure they're burning all lines of diplomatic telecommunication internationally to get them released. Arguably, that's the most important if not THE reason why the ground offensive hasn't commenced

But not a single citizen or politician worth his name has ever suggested a trade off between offensive operations in Gaza for their lives . Tells you the difference between Israel & India if we were in a similar situation. Case in point - the hijacking of our aircraft to Kandahar & the drama played out in & by our media then with opposition parties being in the forefront . Another case in point - the capture of Wing Co Abhinandan.

 

[Shuturmurg]

Btw, speaking of difference between US and European street power, here a true Murican (He is UFC champion btw) :

 

[ezsasa]

I wonder if anyone's noticed how there's an almost deafening silence on the 200 or so hostages taken by Hamas in the Israeli & international media. Of course I'm going by the limited reading I've done on SM . Suffice to say it doesn't mean that the Israeli government or its people have forgotten or forsaken them & I'm sure they're burning all lines of diplomatic telecommunication internationally to get them released. Arguably, that's the most important if not THE reason why the ground offensive hasn't commenced

But not a single citizen or politician worth his name has ever suggested a trade off between offensive operations in Gaza for their lives . Tells you the difference between Israel & India if we were in a similar situation. Case in point - the hijacking of our aircraft to Kandahar & the drama played out in & by our media then with opposition parties being in the forefront . Another case in point - the capture of Wing Co Abhinandan.

the difference is in knowing what happens next, in our case GoI had no precedence. in their case they have precedence, their leadership and population roughly knows what is going to happen next. they know that in the past when hostages were taken, countries like egypt jordan would be the go between, and the number of years hostage negotiation goes on for.

each situation stands on it's own merits and demerits.

 

[Master Chief]

So, GOI also wants Hamas to be pummeled so that neighborhood Marde Mujahids don't get ideas..

Why Hamas cannot be allowed to get away by Israel

By targeting Jerusalem and Tel Aviv through rockets on Monday, Hamas has shown that its war-making capability has not diminished despite Israeli bombing.

www.hindustantimes.com

 

[Master Chief]

the difference is in knowing what happens next, in our case GoI had no precedence. in their case they have precedence, their leadership and population roughly knows what is going to happen next. they know that in the past when hostages were taken, countries like egypt jordan would be the go between, and the number of years hostage negotiation goes on for.

each situation stands on it's own merits and demerits.

Also, GOI did not want a ground war with Pakistan after Balakot.. Here, Israel seems to want one with Hamas..
Also, there were large protests just yesterday by Families of hostages in Israel..

 

[shaktishivashakti]

I wonder if anyone's noticed how there's an almost deafening silence on the 200 or so hostages taken by Hamas in the Israeli & international media. Of course I'm going by the limited reading I've done on SM . Suffice to say it doesn't mean that the Israeli government or its people have forgotten or forsaken them & I'm sure they're burning all lines of diplomatic telecommunication internationally to get them released. Arguably, that's the most important if not THE reason why the ground offensive hasn't commenced

But not a single citizen or politician worth his name has ever suggested a trade off between offensive operations in Gaza for their lives . Tells you the difference between Israel & India if we were in a similar situation. Case in point - the hijacking of our aircraft to Kandahar & the drama played out in & by our media then with opposition parties being in the forefront . Another case in point - the capture of Wing Co Abhinandan.

Camarade Mao ;-) I think you are mistaken on this. Bibi is under heavy pressure of international organization and his fellow citizens to get the release of the hostages. EU is preparing a massive humanitarian help for Gaza and hope in counterpart get the release of non Israelite hostages, hence giving in one of Humus request. No need to say that not a single mosquito can enter Gaza without prior permission of Tel-Aviv. Let's see if humanitarian cargoes reach Gaza or not.
Israel's political class is completely demonetized and avoids contact with its fellow citizens. They cant even visit hospitals without being told to Fuck Off.
On a personal note, either you Indians in India are too severe on your leaders or I am being whitened and softened ;-)
See this report, ok it's abc but nevertheless... it's happening.

 

[shaktishivashakti]

Dude this happened more than 8 hours ago and since then the Russian resolution has been discussed and rejected.

 

[Master Chief]

So.. one funny thing.. is.. with all these jews kidnapped.. exerting pressure and trying to handicap government response to Hamas.. what happens to ch*tiya Netanyahu's West Bank settler colonization plans ? Without getting rid of the Palestinian population, just grabbing Muslim lands, will lead to these jew settlers getting f**ked, killed and taken hostage in the west Bank as well, in the future..

 

[Anirbann Datta]

I wonder if anyone's noticed how there's an almost deafening silence on the 200 or so hostages taken by Hamas in the Israeli & international media. Of course I'm going by the limited reading I've done on SM . Suffice to say it doesn't mean that the Israeli government or its people have forgotten or forsaken them & I'm sure they're burning all lines of diplomatic telecommunication internationally to get them released. Arguably, that's the most important if not THE reason why the ground offensive hasn't commenced

But not a single citizen or politician worth his name has ever suggested a trade off between offensive operations in Gaza for their lives . Tells you the difference between Israel & India if we were in a similar situation. Case in point - the hijacking of our aircraft to Kandahar & the drama played out in & by our media then with opposition parties being in the forefront . Another case in point - the capture of Wing Co Abhinandan.

The more importance the Israelis give to the hostage situation( even be it on paper), the more the ransom demand will grow...
they are following basic human instinct, same way like we ignore cry of a kid for repeat candy in supermarket...

Once the demands are met, there will be a new set of demand coming, so best way to avoid it is to pretend that we don't care, either hunus will start killing the hostages one by one( that will make Israeli stand stronger, hunus know it for sure, that's why the hostages are still alive, it seems), or they will try to reach biradar network repeatedly to make their presence felt more, that will buy more time for israel to pinpoint the communication link and the location later on .
my personal take though.

 

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Jhumla, pork is haram even for jooz.
It's probably old footage of the Ukranis doing this vs Kadyrovite jihadis

 

[Brood Father]

 

[shade]

So.. one funny thing.. is.. with all these jews kidnapped.. exerting pressure and trying to handicap government response to Hamas.. what happens to ch*tiya Netanyahu's West Bank settler colonization plans ? Without getting rid of the Palestinian population, just grabbing Muslim lands, will lead to these jew settlers getting f**ked, killed and taken hostage in the west Bank as well, in the future..

West Bank is under Israeli occupation, and Mahmoud Abbas' PA is compromised by Israel, even if killings and hostage takings happen, it won't be at this scale.

Gaza is a problem because it's like a small Irani jihadi colony on the mainland of Israel, Jooz have no control and that is why they get slammed by rockets or get mobbed by 1500 jihadis.