Israel - Hamas Gaza Conflict Oct-2023

[sorcerer]

U.S. and Qatar agree to prevent disbursal of recently unfrozen Iranian funds
The move, which stops short of a full refreezing of Iranian funds in Qatar's banking system, follows the deadly attacks by Hamas on Israel and continued Republican criticism of the Biden administration's deal with Iran, in which $6 billion was unfrozen in exchange for the release of five detained Americans. The official who outlined the understanding between the U.S. and Qatar was not authorized to comment and spoke on condition of anonymity.

https://www.npr.org/2023/10/13/1205665755/u-s-and-qatar-agree-to-prevent-disbursal-of-recently-unfrozen-iranian-funds

 

[SKC]

Something fishy going on. IDF was supposed to start ground invasion long ago.
Something is stalling them. Hostage rescue ? Or there never was a plan for ground invasion ?
Some thing more sinister like nukes ?

When did IDF call you and tell you about the date on starting the invasion??

IDF chief already said they need 48-72 hours before starting any invasion.

 

[Jimih]

Something fishy going on. IDF was supposed to start ground invasion long ago.
Something is stalling them. Hostage rescue ? Or there never was a plan for ground invasion ?
Some thing more sinister like nukes ?

Unkil Sam will not allow for nukes.

If Israel want the land in future then why should they irradiate it a-la Chernobyl-Fukushima style?

Urban Warfare is cumbersome even for top most militaries.

 

[Jagattunga Govinda III]

Something fishy going on. IDF was supposed to start ground invasion long ago.
Something is stalling them. Hostage rescue ? Or there never was a plan for ground invasion ?
Some thing more sinister like nukes ?

Why would they want to nuke the territories they want to occupy? Even if they theoretically vaporize Gaza with nukes, the worldwide sympathy they gained from Hamas's attacks will also vaporize with Gaza and the international opinion turn against Israel in a jiffy. More than that, it will set a precedent for the Russians to turn Kiev/Kyiv (or however it is spelt these days) into glass.

 

[Sikhbrah]

Something fishy going on. IDF was supposed to start ground invasion long ago.
Something is stalling them. Hostage rescue ? Or there never was a plan for ground invasion ?
Some thing more sinister like nukes ?

They were waiting to wear down Hamas - no fuel, no food, no electricity, no water.

In fact, at this time - the longer they wait, the better - make Hamas a weakened, desperate opponent.

 

[Cheepek]

I wonder why...

 

[Marliii]

For some snow flakes here who had a massive outpour for children being injured. Even if its documented and told by official sources these scums will find a way to discredit it

 

[Indrajit]

This clown is surely behind it.
Hope Mossad takes care of his entire family.

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The creation of Hamas had plenty of Israeli help. Was meant as counter to Israel's then bete noire, Yasser Arafat & the PLO. As usual with these types of projects (eg: Osama & the US), radical nutters may use you but don't remain in your control.

 

[Cheepek]

They were waiting to wear down Hamas - no fuel, no food, no electricity, no water.

In fact, at this time - the longer they wait, the better - make Hamas a weakened, desperate opponent.

Have to take into account that public opinion will also start changing if there's a delay

 

[FireStar]

Watch | Israeli commandos rescue 250 hostages in operation against Hamas terrorists

The Israel Defense Forces have released a helmet-cam video capturing a hostage rescue mission undertaken on October 7 amidst a Hamas terror attack.

www.wionews.com

Is this real??

 

[Indrajit]

They were waiting to wear down Hamas - no fuel, no food, no electricity, no water.

In fact, at this time - the longer they wait, the better - make Hamas a weakened, desperate opponent.

The calculus of groups like Hamas & Hezbollah are different from what we think. They are not stupid, they know what will happen and they are prepared for it. The last fight with Hezbollah was a partial defeat for Israel inspite of destroying half of Lebanon. As Christine Fair said about the Pakistani army - they dont see defeats against the Indian army as defeats - those are acceptable losses; the real defeat in their minds is if they don't try anything. Same with these groups.

 

[Sikhbrah]

Have to take into account that public opinion will also start changing if there's a delay

Yes - on day 1, I mentioned that Israel has 1-2 days to inflict maximum damage without international opinion going against them (while the brutality is still fresh in people’s mind).

In fact we have already started seeing UN and Human rights groups harping on Palestinian civilians safety being paramount (above Israel’s safety?).

The calculus of groups like Hamas & Hezbollah are different from what we think. They are not stupid, they know what will happen and they are prepared for it. The last fight with Hezbollah was a partial defeat for Israel inspite of destroying half of Lebanon. As Christine Fair said about the Pakistani army - they dont see defeats against the Indian army as defeats - those are acceptable losses; the real defeat in their minds is if they don't try anything. Same with these groups.

Oh yes, they were prepared for a response - as can be seen by the hostage taking (to be used as a bargaining tool to prevent israel from ground invasion).

What Hamas leadership underestimated though was:
1) their group troops going rampage and providing atrocity material for Israel to turn global opinion against them
2) Israel not letting the hostage situation by Hamas stop them in any way
3) Israel showing iron-will to eliminate Hamas if it means Palestinian civilians being at risk (could turn international opinion against them).

 

[Indrajit]

Israel govt shares horrifying photos of murdered Jewish babies from Kibbutz Kfar Aza massacre: Read why it took them 3 days

The official social media account of the Prime Minister of Israel shared the images and the post also said that Netanyahu showed the photos to Blinken. | OpIndia News

www.opindia.com

 

[Sarjen]

GBU-57 —- lobbying is going on to transfer MOAB to Israel ,,, highly unlikely.. but let’s see

 

[ezsasa]

everyone is trying to use modern definitions for what hamas did, for medieval period the english word for it is "sacking".
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Unveiling the Mysteries of Sacking in Medieval Times

Unveiling the Mysteries of Sacking in Medieval Times | Dvaita

www.dvaita.org

 

[The Juggernaut]

This clown is surely behind it.
Hope Mossad takes care of his entire family.

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Somehow to call him evil is considered anti-semetic

 

[BabaKhalbali]

 

[Aspirant847]

Rare win for France.

that good but isn't that kinda against their free speech beliefs and whatnot, even we didn't ban protests

 

[BabaKhalbali]

that good but isn't that kinda against their free speech beliefs and whatnot, even we didn't ban protests

this is going to backfire big time. mark my words. All those 3rd grade immigrants europe has imported will cause them havoc

 

[BabaKhalbali]

Sources say the one who did is a Porki