Israel - Hamas Gaza Conflict Oct-2023

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Ch*tiya Sardar..There were no Sikhs.. It was Jodhpur Lancers of the British Indian Army that freed Palestine from Ottoman rule..
Man, Sikh Khalistani fanaticism( assuming it is that, and not some Pakistani ventriloquism) intrudes even into the Israel vs Hamas issue.
 

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Finally finished reading this whole thread. Some thoughts.

1. Israel is fully justified in using whatever force is necessary to wipe out Hamas and take full control of the Gaza strip Article 370 revocation style. Irrespective of the number of civilian deaths - those are on Hamas, not the IDF. The sick videos that have come out are proof that there is no moral equivalence. These inbreds enjoy murdering and raping women and children, then hide behind their own so that Israel looks evil when they retailiate. This is how they've been for decades, nothing new here, it's just getting filmed more. I don't think there is any disagreement on this on this site. And given that the US, UK, France, Germany and Italy have basically given Israel the go ahead to do whatever they want, it's unlikely that Jordan and Syria and Egypt will get fully involved. I know there are reports of Syrian rockets being launched but this may just be token appeasement for the masses, I doubt Assad will go against Russia here, who is waiting on the sidelines.

2. If Republicans take power in 2024, fully expect Ukraine funding to be diverted to Israel. This will definitely shift the Ukraine war in favor of Russia. This may be why Russia is blaming US and reiterating a two state solution position.

3. Israel/Iran war is a real possibility, with US/NATO being dragged into it a possibility as well. But don't count on this. Pro-Israel lobby control over democrats legitimately is not as strong as it was 15 years ago, lot of gulf arab and muslim-american activist influence has caused this. Other Arab countries getting involved is even more likely. Whether this forces Israel's hand to use nuclear weapons remains to be seen. It would set a horrible precedent, but it's not impossible if Israel is facing an existential threat due to Syria/Jordan/Egypt and Iran getting involved.

4. I think China will see a US/Israel prolonged war as an excellent opportunity to invade Taiwan is US gets dragged into supporting Israel and Ukraine (most likely if democrats remain in power). Establishment is more anti-russia than populist right, and Trump (leading R candidate right now) is a populist who has expressed anti-Ukraine sentiments. This may provide India with an opportunity to take back POK but unlikely, as a distracted US may mean China can focus on Taiwan and Protecting Pak at the same time.

5. Indian security establishment needs to do a comprehensive analysis on the intelligence failure of the Israelis and why Hamas was able to successfully carry out this attack.

Side notes - some of the support for Israel online goes a little too far. I support Israel here ofc, but volunteering to go fight and telling that to the Israeli ambassador is cringe af..., i don't blame him for his annoyed tone in that interview.

Also, it's good that the western center-left and independents are supporting Israel, but as many have pointed out, let's not naively believe they will somehow learn that these Jihadi goat fuckers do the same shit to us. Just like there was a much larger outpouring of sympathy for Ukraine, the "whiteness" of Israel is what got them to care. Likewise, let's not pretend Israel thinks of us as their best friend because of the online Chutiyas, they went to US/NATO first before asking for anything from India. At the end of the day, our international relations are transactional, and we are alone. The "international liberal order" looks down on Indian Hindu self-determination.
 

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Everyone seems to have a religio-political strategy for the past 50 years except Hindu billionaires.
  • Jewish billionaires, millionaires made sure that EU and other western nations are always at the beck and call of Israel.
  • Muslim billionaires have captured the information warfare and have control over top universities and academics and the propaganda machine.
  • Christian billionaires, well they rule the world.
Hindu billionaires and millionaires on the other hand are interested only in earning money. Never thought about promoting the indic view, and creating the machinery to give voice to persecuted Hindus. Why are we Hindus so dumb to be honest? We have faced worse than any community on this planet for the past 1 millennium and yet our billionaires and our rich hindu class doesn't give a f.

Even in Modi's regime, what have the Ambanis done to promote the Hindu voice? Seems like no one is bothered at all, especially the rich Hindu class both here and abroad who can actually make a difference. Pouring money into BJP's political campaign is not enough.

Why are Indian billionaires pouring billions of dollars into Harvard? Mahindra, Tata, Lakhsmi Mittal's endowments never resulted in speaking or representing the voice of India. Rather after these endowments, the charity groups in Harvard support separation of Kashmir. Can anyone give an answer?
 

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Chooth asian jhollachappers thought that they could get away with mocking dead jews jut like how they do to dead Hindus.

They can stich to "ghungrooo"
Lol many student organizations have now started saying that their presidents sent out letters without consent of committe members. Gaand fati.

One Law student got her offer from big law firm rescinded. Now CEO's are actively posting on twitter that they wont hire any of these scums.
 

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Everyone seems to have a religio-political strategy for the past 50 years except Hindu billionaires.
  • Jewish billionaires, millionaires made sure that EU and other western nations are always at the beck and call of Israel.
  • Muslim billionaires have captured the information warfare and have control over top universities and academics and the propaganda machine.
  • Christian billionaires, well they rule the world.
Hindu billionaires and millionaires on the other hand are interested only in earning money. Never thought about promoting the indic view, and creating the machinery to give voice to persecuted Hindus. Why are we Hindus so dumb to be honest? We have faced worse than any community on this planet for the past 1 millennium and yet our billionaires and our rich hindu class doesn't give a f.

Even in Modi's regime, what have the Ambanis done to promote the Hindu voice? Seems like no one is bothered at all, especially the rich Hindu class both here and abroad who can actually make a difference. Pouring money into BJP's political campaign is not enough.

Why are Indian billionaires pouring billions of dollars into Harvard? Mahindra, Tata, Lakhsmi Mittal's endowments never resulted in speaking or representing the voice of India. Rather after these endowments, the charity groups in Harvard support separation of Kashmir. Can anyone give an answer?
This
 

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Everyone seems to have a religio-political strategy for the past 50 years except Hindu billionaires.
  • Jewish billionaires, millionaires made sure that EU and other western nations are always at the beck and call of Israel.
  • Muslim billionaires have captured the information warfare and have control over top universities and academics and the propaganda machine.
  • Christian billionaires, well they rule the world.
Hindu billionaires and millionaires on the other hand are interested only in earning money. Never thought about promoting the indic view, and creating the machinery to give voice to persecuted Hindus. Why are we Hindus so dumb to be honest? We have faced worse than any community on this planet for the past 1 millennium and yet our billionaires and our rich hindu class doesn't give a f.

Even in Modi's regime, what have the Ambanis done to promote the Hindu voice? Seems like no one is bothered at all, especially the rich Hindu class both here and abroad who can actually make a difference. Pouring money into BJP's political campaign is not enough.

Why are Indian billionaires pouring billions of dollars into Harvard? Mahindra, Tata, Lakhsmi Mittal's endowments never resulted in speaking or representing the voice of India. Rather after these endowments, the charity groups in Harvard support separation of Kashmir. Can anyone give an answer?
I've actually thought a lot about this. It's because we don't feel a strong sense of tribal loyalty and existential crisis, or an obligation to go die for some book the way Jews and goat fuckers do respectively. Ultimately Indian diaspora and their chilren see ourselves as a powerful successful hardworking "model minority" who comes from the 4th most powerful country in the world that is on the verge of getting a permanent UN security council seat and has a beastly economy that is taking over the world like China is. No one told Mukesh Ambani or Gautam Adani that they have an obligation to prevent their people from Gazwa-e-hind and to constantly be hypervigiliant about hinduphobia their whole lives.
 

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I've actually thought a lot about this. It's because we don't feel a strong sense of tribal loyalty and an existential crisis the way the Jews and goat fuckers do. Ultimately Indian diaspora and their chilren see ourselves as a powerful successful hardworking "model minority" who comes from the 4th most powerful country in the world that is on the verge of getting a permanent UN security council seat and has a beastly economy that is taking over the world like China is. No one told Mukesh Ambani or Goutham Advani that they have an obligation to prevent their people from Gazwa-e-hind and to constantly be hypervigiliant about hinduphobia their whole lives.
Maybe because we do too much chest thumping? Those muslims whom we call "puncture-Putras" have got more money, land and resources than the Hindu right wings. What do Hindu right wings have by the way? We got no money, land or have hegemony over anything.
It is the averafe right wing Hindus who are one of the poorest.
It is Hindus who are the most marginalised.
It is hindu who deserve all poverty upliftment programmes in India not to those jihadis.
 

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Everyone seems to have a religio-political strategy for the past 50 years except Hindu billionaires.
  • Jewish billionaires, millionaires made sure that EU and other western nations are always at the beck and call of Israel.
  • Muslim billionaires have captured the information warfare and have control over top universities and academics and the propaganda machine.
  • Christian billionaires, well they rule the world.
Hindu billionaires and millionaires on the other hand are interested only in earning money. Never thought about promoting the indic view, and creating the machinery to give voice to persecuted Hindus. Why are we Hindus so dumb to be honest? We have faced worse than any community on this planet for the past 1 millennium and yet our billionaires and our rich hindu class doesn't give a f.

Even in Modi's regime, what have the Ambanis done to promote the Hindu voice? Seems like no one is bothered at all, especially the rich Hindu class both here and abroad who can actually make a difference. Pouring money into BJP's political campaign is not enough.

Why are Indian billionaires pouring billions of dollars into Harvard? Mahindra, Tata, Lakhsmi Mittal's endowments never resulted in speaking or representing the voice of India. Rather after these endowments, the charity groups in Harvard support separation of Kashmir. Can anyone give an answer?
I have mentioned about this in other posts.

Hindu moneybags dont concern themselves about "Hindu affairs". There are rich ones who contribute to various departments in the west, fund biriyani historians & so on. They just dont care or dont want to court controversy. Absolutely aloof from what is happening to Hindus or their narratives.

That Audrey academician still has a job.
 

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You statement regarding Gandhi clearly shows what you actually are.
But still I would write what others have said and proved millions of times.
  • During Khilafat movement, he clearly ignored, even justified the butchering of Malayali Hindus in Moplah, known as the Moplah genocide.
  • Direct Action Day started by Muslim league in today's west bengal was so horrific that even the British couldn't believe their eyes the massacre they were witnessing and Gandhi DID NOTHING. BUT WHEN HINDUS RETALIATED, suddenly GANDHI STARTED HIS FASTING TO STOP HINDUS FROM KILLING THE JIHADIS.
  • When Muslims published a disgusting book on Hindu Goddesses, in response a Hindu published Rangeela Rasool book. Even the courts couldn't disprove anything written on that book but Gandhi instigated the Muslims to TAKE LAW IN THEIR HAND and the writer was murdered.
  • He installed the puppet Nehru whom nobody knew, as the PM.
  • Because of him, Subhash Bose had to step down even after winning the Congress president elections.
  • He told the Jews not to fight against Hitler but accept their fate. He told the same thing to Hindus.
Gandhi was a mental patient. Instead of preaching non violence to the aggressor Jihadis and British, he instead told the Hindus to remain sitting ducks.
And there are many more things to be told. Do your research.
He taught Jews to go into gas chambers without any protest and taught Hindus to be no violent. When Swami Shraddhanand was assassinated by Abdul Rashid, Gandhi told that Abdul Rasheed was offended and hence he had the right to do so. Such hypocrite was Gandhi.
 

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