Israel - Hamas Gaza Conflict Oct-2023

[omaebakabaka]

I dont think we have enough voltage to take "panga" with Pakistan and China at the same time. This is something we can do, as a demo.

We have nnothing to prove, we are at it from 1000 years and still going to different levels and degrees of survival...we generally fucked the shit out of them post nehru. Just create chaos in porkistan and chaddiland and give them 1000 cuts while peer level build up with slant eyes

 

[Anupu]

I dont think we have enough voltage to take "panga" with Pakistan and China at the same time. This is something we can do, as a demo.

This was our demo, we don't need to do these self-goals.

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Yes, Israel is our friend now, a very close friend. But in the 70s it used to supply weapons to the mujahideen, China got the Aesa radar technology from Israelis, J10 used to be Lavi. Boss this is geopolitics, emotions ki koi jagah nahi. Now if go and fight here, what kind of expectations the Saudis may have from us, Yemen? What about the US, won't they say now that your principled position on sending troops only for UN-sanctioned missions is gone wanna consider some adventures with us?

 

[MuffleParch]

This was our demo, we don't need to do these self-goals.

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Yes, Israel is our friend now, a very close friend. But in the 70s it used to supply weapons to the mujahideen, China got the Aesa radar technology from Israelis, J10 used to be Lavi. Boss this is geopolitics, emotions ki koi jagah nahi. Now if go and fight here, what kind of expectations the Saudis may have from us, Yemen? What about the US, won't they say now that your principled position on sending troops only for UN-sanctioned missions is gone wanna consider some adventures with us?

Many of you use the word friend and close friend describing Israel. Someone said brothers. What is the definition of these terms in geopolitical sense?

Israel did not make any statements supporting India when Trudeau publicly accused India of murdering a Canadian terrorist without any evidence. And India wasn't expecting any such support either.

So, does Israel still qualify as a close friend?

 

[Tshering22]

These attacks open up possibilities of many large-scale attacks against civilians in many vulnerable regions including India. Can you imagine 5,000 Muslims with AK-47s roaming in a big city killing everyone in sight?

There is a serious need to arm, train and prepare civilians for wars to come.

Islamists degenerates are known to stock up weapons in their mosques, always illegally. Remember how swords, pistols and kattas were found in the Delhi 2020 Riots? Only you Hindus talk about principle and democracy and lovy-dovy shit. No one else gives a damn, which is why thanks to this attitude, all of us were wiped off from Afghanistan, and now being done in Pakistan and Bangladesh.

Islamists care only about Sharia; not civil laws. So they don't see jails as a punishment. That is why giving them the benefit of doubt is suicidal.

 

[Anupu]

Many of you use the word friend and close friend describing Israel. Someone said brothers. What is the definition of these terms in geopolitical sense?

Israel did not make any statements supporting India when Trudeau publicly accused India of murdering a Canadian terrorist without any evidence. And India wasn't expecting any such support either.

So, does Israel still qualify as a close friend?

In some ways yes, very close technological relationship, and they helped us circumvent a lot of pseudo-sanctions. They are the most likely candidates to help us kick-start our Semiconductor industry (although we seriously need to woo Taiwan on this one). We share a lot of intelligence.

Importantly there is a very positive opinion about India in Israel. That can matter. There is a larger geopolitical game these countries are playing in the ME. As far as Canada is concerned I think they didn't say anything against India as well. In the end, Israel will always be in the American orbit, although it does have a lot more agency than America's other allies.

 

[Tshering22]

Whatever happens next one thing is certain, the events of 10/7/23 has hastened the next Persian Gulf war. It is not if but when Iran will be attacked.

Do you really think that Iran is not prepared for this? They have been preparing for a US invasion for nearly 5 decades.

Their air force is archaic but their rocket forces, long-range artillery and infantry weapons are on point. Iran if attacked will fight like Vietnam did; using mastery of terrain. Much of Iran is like Switzerland aka mountainous, making it impossible to send in large-scale forces. Many of their cities are in the valleys surrounded by mountains where troops maintain a presence. While Iraq was largely desert plains, fighting Iran would be a very different ball game, even if the US deployed 5-6 carrier battle groups.

And this is not considering the flood of assistance that the Russians and Chinese would give the Iranians - Su-35s, S-550s, HQ-9s, C-802s, Tos-1 thermobaric artillery, etc. Given their relationship with the West, there is nothing the US can do to convince them otherwise.

Iranian troops already have the high ground and they will be able to rain hell from such weapons onto the incoming invaders.

What they lack in their conventional infantry mechanized forces, they make up in creating a formidable air defence of thousands of cheap rockets and short-range missiles that swarm drones won't be enough to counter.

Iran's Mullah regime has also developed something as a last resort, which is akin to Israel's Samson Option, but concerned with the Middle East alone.

This means that if the mullah regime falls even after all these factors, they will unleash all their strategic arsenal across the Gulf region, devastating Israel, as well as Saudi, UAE, Oman, Bahrain, Qatar, and Kuwait, which could cripple the world economy due to their oil exports.

 

[MuffleParch]

In some ways yes, very close technological relationship, and they helped us circumvent a lot of pseudo-sanctions. They are the most likely candidates to help us kick-start our Semiconductor industry (although we seriously need to woo Taiwan on this one). We share a lot of intelligence.

Importantly there is a very positive opinion about India in Israel. That can matter. There is a larger geopolitical game these countries are playing in the ME. As far as Canada is concerned I think they didn't say anything against India as well. In the end, Israel will always be in the American orbit, although it does have a lot more agency than America's other allies.

It is called alliance of convenience. Today's ally can be tomorrow's enemy. Not friendship.

 

[Sikhbrah]

 

[Sikhbrah]

Still ongoing.

 

[Anupu]

It is called alliance of convenience. Today's ally can be tomorrow's enemy. Not friendship.

We don't have allies, we have strategic partners. But then even allies don't always work together. Russia abandoned Armenia, they had reasons sure, but they did. The US abandoned Pakistan like a used tissue paper.

But I don't think this relationship will break so easily. We have long multi-layered engagements and neither Israel nor India are duplicitous morons like Pakistan. We have geopolitical commitments we are working towards in the Gulf. So yes we are friends.

 

[Tshering22]

Porks are not wasting time. They are studying the tactics of Hamas and Israeli response. Then they'll train TRF, PAFF etc etc. To be honest, it is min. cost max DMG plan. They won't try the exact tactics but some variation of this.

That would result in a full-blown war against Pakistan with combat not restricted to RR combing and cleaning Kashmir street to street. Remember there are operations where RR and several other units have done some brutal stuff against jihadis. & their handlers. My elder brother, during his service, has told me some of the things that would make your blood curdle with terror.

LaWhore, Gujranwala & several other cities and towns would be razed by IAF air strikes and cruise missile launches.

Knowing the run-up to the 2024 elections, it is the ONLY thing that PM Modi needs right now to ensure that he and his successors will rule our country for the next 200 years without question.

The secular-left-liberal slaves living in India would be advising their Pakistani/Islamist masters against such a venture.

 

[Anupu]

Porks are not wasting time. They are studying the tactics of Hamas and Israeli response. Then they'll train TRF, PAFF etc etc. To be honest, it is min. cost max DMG plan. They won't try the exact tactics but some variation of this.

Perhaps TTP and BLA are also studying these tactics, the terrain on the Pakistani side is more suitable for this nonsense. Not to mention who will Pakistan attack, these creatures are totally independent actors.

 

[Kumaoni]

Man .. people making population based comparisons need to stop. We get triggered if more than 5 soldiers die in a week.
Aam junta gets triggered when there are more than 50 deaths in one attack .
With 500+ deaths any govmint here would lose power if they didn't invade pigland leave alone raid .

We hold our men to different standards. We do not and should not care about how many causalties x y and z nation takes. Every loss of indian life is indeed precious, so of course , we will be triggered if we lose. 5 soldiers. Especially when said deaths were entirely avoidable,

 

[omaebakabaka]

Coming home to bite their ass, they all cheered when ISIS was going against Iraq and Syria...didn't Israel treat the isis wonded in their hospitals?

 

[skunk works]

They (the US) think they need Qataris to counter KSA and UAE. Qataris are the most dangerous cretins in the ME, they maybe very small but they can out paki the pakis in pakiness ! There will be a day of reckoning for Doha, i hope all the atrocities they commit through their proxies can be avenged then.

Don't forget hosting the largest US military base in the world. Qatar has put itself in an enviable position.

 

[JaguarWarrior]

We don't have allies, we have strategic partners. But then even allies don't always work together. Russia abandoned Armenia, they had reasons sure, but they did. The US abandoned Pakistan like a used tissue paper.

But I don't think this relationship will break so easily. We have long multi-layered engagements and neither Israel nor India are duplicitous morons like Pakistan. We have geopolitical commitments we are working towards in the Gulf. So yes we are friends.

Abandoning Artsakh is actually a stroke of genius by Putin. It normalizes relation between Armenia and Azerbaijan. And because Azerbaijan borders Russia, it means Azerbaijan becomes ally of Russia instead of enemy of Russia.

 

[rock127]

kesi kamini jaat (religion) hai...2 saal ek christian se shaadi krke divorce liya hai. uske baad bhi iski islamiyat ki khujli nhi gayi. agr iske sacche momin mil gaye ishe, to prostitution krni ki vajah se ishe 100 kode legenge. fir bhi jombipan nhi gaya dimag se....
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It's just a DISEASE which is not easy to go.

Here is another international R _ _ _ i also known as "fashion model". These so called "models" actual work is being hifi prostitutes. She will also be flogged by sticks and put under burqa by her own religion or just stoned to death. But see the way she supports terrorists/mullas while enjoying all the freedom in a western country.

IF Israel asks and permits, India should send its boots on ground there with a mission to simply elminate. No peace keeping bullshit just extermination. Cause maximal extermination at maximum speed. If this is not retaliated in the most brutal fashion possible, it will inspire other jihadis and goat lovers all over the world. To take part in this is to signal the world that if you go against civilians and governments like these fuckers did, you will cease to exist.

Are you like 5 or a Paki account in disguise?

Israel has backing of the mighty US war machine and it's allies. Why do India needs to mess? We have our own things to manage. We need to pursue our own strategic goals in our region and strike when it's hot.

That would result in a full-blown war against Pakistan with combat not restricted to RR combing and cleaning Kashmir street to street. Remember there are operations where RR and several other units have done some brutal stuff against jihadis. & their handlers. My elder brother, during his service, has told me some of the things that would make your blood curdle with terror.
LaWhore, Gujranwala & several other cities and towns would be razed by IAF air strikes and cruise missile launches.
Knowing the run-up to the 2024 elections, it is the ONLY thing that PM Modi needs right now to ensure that he and his successors will rule our country for the next 200 years without question.
The secular-left-liberal slaves living in India would be advising their Pakistani/Islamist masters against such a venture.

Don't be surprised if there is some war like situation with BHIKHARI Pakis before 2024 elections. They might start some suicidal adventure and BJP will be glad to retaliate which will also help in elections.

 

[nongaddarliberal]

They (the US) think they need Qataris to counter KSA and UAE. Qataris are the most dangerous cretins in the ME, they maybe very small but they can out paki the pakis in pakiness ! There will be a day of reckoning for Doha, i hope all the atrocities they commit through their proxies can be avenged then.

Don't forget they killed 5000+ Indians by overworking them in the sun for constructing their football stadiums.

 

[Ugra Bhairav]

Allright !!! Now this is coming out from Israel Defence Force :

Instead to Political Leadership setting the Goals for the War here ARMED FORCES are setting the Goals for War. Dont know why this strategy is been adopted.

Goals are :

1) They are going to De-Arm the Fighting Capacity and weapons from Gaza.

2) They will wipe out HAMAS from GAZA.

Current Position as of now :

1) There are still Terrorists on the territory of Israel.

2) It may take many hours more to nutralise the terrorists.

3) Atleast 1000 Terrorists crossed the Border from GAZA.

4) Hostage Situation still going on.

3) More thean 700 people killed.

4) More then 2100 injured.

5) About more then 130 persons are kidnapped and taken to GAZA.


Now the Question is How Israel is going to accomplish its Goals ????????


I dont knw how Israel is going to attend its goals of :

1) They are going to De-Arm the Fighting Capacity and weapons from Gaza.

2) They will wipe out HAMAS from GAZA.

To achieve the above mentioned goal, It will take House to House fighting with Hammas in hostile enemy Population.

Gaza is densely populated URBAN area, and it to fight a Urban War is most difficult task.

It they want to achieve the above it may take months of fighting with Tons of Causality and lots of suffering on both the sides.

God knows or Israelies know how they are going to accomplish these goals ?????????????

 

[maximus777]

Allright !!! Now this is coming out from Israel Defence Force :

Instead to Political Leadership setting the Goals for the War here ARMED FORCES are setting the Goals for War. Dont know why this strategy is been adopted.

Goals are :

1) They are going to De-Arm the Fighting Capacity and weapons from Gaza.

2) They will wipe out HAMAS from GAZA.

Current Position as of now :

1) There are still Terrorists on the territory of Israel.

2) It may take many hours more to nutralise the terrorists.

3) Atleast 1000 Terrorists crossed the Border from GAZA.

4) Hostage Situation still going on.

3) More thean 700 people killed.

4) More then 2100 injured.

5) About more then 130 persons are kidnapped and taken to GAZA.


Now the Question is How Israel is going to accomplish its Goals ????????


I dont knw how Israel is going to attend its goals of :

1) They are going to De-Arm the Fighting Capacity and weapons from Gaza.

2) They will wipe out HAMAS from GAZA.

To achieve the above mentioned goal, It will take House to House fighting with Hammas in hostile enemy Population.

Gaza is densely populated URBAN area, and it to fight a Urban War is most difficult task.

It they want to achieve the above it may take months of fighting with Tons of Causality and lots of suffering on both the sides.

God knows or Israelies know how they are going to accomplish these goals ?????????????

Goals (1) and (2) are unrealistic in current times and it appears like IDF is being very emotional here. Unless they go Changez Khan in Gaza and create a mountain of mullah skulls, this cannot be accomplished. For all its daring feats, (1) and (2) are impossible goals for the IDF. Buffer zones, "re-education" camps, "de-radicalization" camps etc. might be more realistic.

If IDF AF can blow up the mosques and other "congregation" places, half the battle will be won. Almost all the trouble is planned there! It is where the comic book is interpreted (rightly or wrongly - who gives a eff) and seeds of radicalization sowed.