Israel - Hamas Gaza Conflict Oct-2023

[patriots]

Actually isarel was prepared,they knew that this will come anyday....still they had losses of lives.
Actually paki terrorist s are poor ,they don't have resources and most are illiterate.
Still India should learn.

I don't think Pakis will try that kind of misadventure. They are incompetant and bankrupt. BUT BUT BUT a prepared country will assume the worst and prepare for it. If anything this attack on Israel teaches us is, never underestimate your enemy and always be prepared. Ex:Kargil, Galwan, Mumbai....

 

[InfraMaxxer]

You still have islamists justifying this terror attack as freedom struggle, need long term plans to purge these rascals.

 

[MuffleParch]

Actually isarel was prepared,they knew that this will come anyday....still they had losses of lives.
Actually paki terrorist s are poor ,they don't have resources and most are illiterate.
Still India should learn.

Israel was prepared for this? My god, if the definition of preparation is this, we should never be prepared.

 

[Sanglamorre]

Possible. But apparently a number of people are reaching out to the Israel embassy. That forced the Israeli Ambassador to give that condescending statement.

Emotions are running high for them at the moment, I'll not hold the condescending tone against them for now. First they're going to rue that statement. Second, these North East Indian Jews can be this number of people.

Indians are becoming more adventurous. It is good. Our lads are fighting in both Wagner and Ukraine forces. Some adventurous lad wants to test his fortunes in Israel. This is the start to not merely be defensive, but expeditionary, mentality wise. I think that's good.

 

[indiatester]

Israel was prepared for this? My god, if the definition of preparation is this, we should never be prepared.

Its impossible to secure 100% all the borders and internals. Its too expensive.
Ability of massive and crippling offense is what we can achieve.

 

[Haldilal]

Ya'll Nibbiars Call it irony or whatever you want to call it. The Amerika gives money to Iran, which is back channelled to Hamas. With this money Hamas buys arms from Ukrainan Nazis. Arms that were given to Ukraine Nazis by the Amerika. The Israel supported the Ukrainan Nazis. The Cycle is complete.

 

[MuffleParch]

Emotions are running high for them at the moment, I'll not hold the condescending tone against them for now. First they're going to rue that statement. Second, these North East Indian Jews can be this number of people.

Indians are becoming more adventurous. It is good. Our lads are fighting in both Wagner and Ukraine forces. Some adventurous lad wants to test his fortunes in Israel. This is the start to not merely be defensive, but expeditionary, mentality wise. I think that's good.

I too will give the benefit of the doubt to the Israeli Ambassador at this time.

 

[Tshering22]

I find it very strange that MOSSAD, the world's most feared intelligence agency with the most advanced of snooping devices and a massive presence across their region, was unable to detect this surprise attack. How is it that AMAN (military intelligence), MOSSAD (external intelligence) and SHIN BET (internal intelligence) could not have seen this?

There are some OSINT analyses out there saying that Israel actually knew of this attack but let it happen so as to create a pretext to attack Iran. This is a provocation big enough to justify that. If Iran and Israel collide directly, this would be a disaster.

The stupid mullahs of Tehran have been stoking the embers of war since 1979.

 

[Suryavanshi]

Yo fells just turn off your morality switch for a moment and just think what I'm going to say.

Imagine an alternate timeline where, turkey was not successful in doing Armenian genocide. Armenians are very savage and they don't like to go down without a fight starting a mass scale revolt.
Now the time is 1912 and Armenians make up about 16% of the population of 16 million
Come 2023 Turks are 84 million and Armenians are 13 million. Armenians are a menace to Turks.

Do you see something noticeable here.
What conclusions do you draw.

No one answered?
OK.

Yo I'm not a lunatic and my answer is absurd but Genocide is the bets course of action any country can take if they can get away with it.
Are Armenians a bother for Turkey today?

 

[Sarjen]

What will it change, for Israelis, if the Israelis destroy Hamas and Gaza?
Israelis will still be surrounded by hundreds of millions who HATE them. Everyone around the world will just be reminded, there can be no peace with the foreigner, it is either destroy or be destroyed.

No one in Israel care about what the Muslim think of them…. There should be a complete destruction. Need to show never to mess with them again.

 

[NutCracker]

Yo fells just turn off your morality switch for a moment and just think what I'm going to say.

Imagine an alternate timeline where, turkey was not successful in doing Armenian genocide. Armenians are very savage and they don't like to go down without a fight starting a mass scale revolt.
Now the time is 1912 and Armenians make up about 16% of the population of 16 million
Come 2023 Turks are 84 million and Armenians are 13 million. Armenians are a menace to Turks.

Do you see something noticeable here.
What conclusions do you draw.

Replace millions with crore and we are looking at another country .
Old Train has left the station. You want new Vande Bharat?

 

[Tshering22]

Israeli army is over-rated. Their special forces are top- notch but their army survives without serious fighting because of the overwhelming technological superiority that they enjoy. Conscripts and reservists are not the same as professional soldiers. Israel does the best with what they have but that's not the same as tougher armies deal with.

Not really. The Israeli army has done what no army of any proportion has done in modern history - defeating 4 much larger national forces in simultaneous warfare in full-scale frontal warfare. The closest that comes to that is the Vietnamese hammering the Americans and the Chinese simultaneously but that was a guerilla war.

Israeli military forces have fought both terrorists (as you allude to Hamas and other terrorist groups that they dominate due to technological superiority) as well as full-fledged nations. Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Iraq supported by a dozen Islamic countries could not do anything to the Israelis.

That's like us fighting the Chinese and Pakistanis simultaneously in a full-scale war and winning.

 

[Indrajit]

Not really. The Israeli army has done what no army of any proportion has done in modern history - defeating 4 much larger national forces in simultaneous warfare in full-scale frontal warfare. The closest that comes to that is the Vietnamese hammering the Americans and the Chinese simultaneously but that was a guerilla war.

Israeli military forces have fought both terrorists (as you allude to Hamas and other terrorist groups that they dominate due to technological superiority) as well as full-fledged nations. Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Iraq supported by a dozen Islamic countries could not do anything to the Israelis.

That's like us fighting the Chinese and Pakistanis simultaneously in a full-scale war and winning.

I don't think many rate the Arab armies higher either. I take your point on their achievements but I still don't rate the present Israeli army very high on their fighting skills alone. Just my opinion though.

 

[here2where]

Not really. The Israeli army has done what no army of any proportion has done in modern history - defeating 4 much larger national forces in simultaneous warfare in full-scale frontal warfare. The closest that comes to that is the Vietnamese hammering the Americans and the Chinese simultaneously but that was a guerilla war.

Israeli military forces have fought both terrorists (as you allude to Hamas and other terrorist groups that they dominate due to technological superiority) as well as full-fledged nations. Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Iraq supported by a dozen Islamic countries could not do anything to the Israelis.

That's like us fighting the Chinese and Pakistanis simultaneously in a full-scale war and winning.

Unfair comparison.
Israel is for all purposes a satellite US state. US helping Israel is basically juice helping juice.
We are a big lost lone elephant in comparison.

 

[InfraMaxxer]

Look at the behaviour and the emojis used by these Muslim terrorists, there's 210 million such rascals living in our country alone, that too after partition in 1947.

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

Don’t know why Log US ko halke mai lete hain

They haven't really delivered a good punch to any adversary of theirs since probably Iraq and saddam

 

[Tshering22]

Unfair comparison.
Israel is for all purposes a satellite US state. US helping Israel is basically juice helping juice.
We are a big lost lone elephant in comparison.

Incorrect analysis here. Israel's primary military benefactor in those days was France, who under de Gaulle, betrayed Israel bang in the midst of the Yom Kippur War when Israel needed more Mirage jets. That is why Mossad obtained blueprints for Mirages from espionage and IAI made the Kfir jet.

The US officially came into the picture only after the Yom Kippur War when they started supplying arms to the Israelis. After independence, Israelis had a string of supporters in Europe more than the US (despite US congressional support for them throughout).

India comparatively has a much more massive capacity that we do not have the political will to utilize. Israel is willing to go to any extent to preserve Jewishness and the Jewish land, while Indians, the bulk of Hindus mainly, have no sense of identity beyond their local caste or sub-community. It's changed a little bit in the last decade, but ideologically, you and us collectively don't hold a candle to what Israel can manage with all their limitations.

Let's extrapolate the proportion here; if we are to proportionately be what Israel is right now, we need to be:

1. making and operating our own jets including AESA radars, targeting pods, missiles, bombs, jet engines and avionics
2. making our own gas turbine engines for aircraft carriers, propulsion for warships and submarines
3. deploying our own 100%-locally-built future light armoured vehicles like WhAP en masse with zero resistance from traitors in the military.

Imagine how much the Modi government has to fight the top brass and the IAS deep state to induct local weapons. In Israel, this will not even be a question if a local answer is available.

 

[Haldilal]

Incorrect analysis here. Israel's primary military benefactor in those days was France, who under de Gaulle, betrayed Israel bang in the midst of the Yom Kippur War when Israel needed more Mirage jets. That is why Mossad obtained blueprints for Mirages from espionage and IAI made the Kfir jet.

The US officially came into the picture only after the Yom Kippur War when they started supplying arms to the Israelis. After independence, Israelis had a string of supporters in Europe more than the US (despite US congressional support for them throughout).

Ya'll Nibbiars correct your History, the ban happened after the 1967 war, and during the 1973 war a domestic variant based on the Mirage 5, Nesher was produced from the sumggled data. And during the 1973 war The IAF was made of mostly the Amerikan fighters, Phantoms and the Skyhwaks.

 

[Indrajit]

Not really. The Israeli army has done what no army of any proportion has done in modern history - defeating 4 much larger national forces in simultaneous warfare in full-scale frontal warfare. The closest that comes to that is the Vietnamese hammering the Americans and the Chinese simultaneously but that was a guerilla war.

Israeli military forces have fought both terrorists (as you allude to Hamas and other terrorist groups that they dominate due to technological superiority) as well as full-fledged nations. Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Iraq supported by a dozen Islamic countries could not do anything to the Israelis.

That's like us fighting the Chinese and Pakistanis simultaneously in a full-scale war and winning.

Let me accept your contention partially and say that the early Israel settlers did fight hard and you could take it till the 1980's. The soldiers now are not really as battle hardened as the earlier generation not withstanding their fights with Hezbollah and Hamas. Like most forces that rely on technological superiority, they are a little soft in the actual fighting. These soldiers have faced no personal hardship, a cushy life doesn't make for hardened soldiers.

 

[Suryavanshi]

Look at the behaviour and the emojis used by these Muslim terrorists, there's 210 million such rascals living in our country alone, that too after partition in 1947.

Your pfp is the solution.