Israel - Hamas Gaza Conflict Oct-2023

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Breaking News Israel: Hundreds of Israeli Tanks are being deployed to the border with Lebanon and Syria in the Pilon region.

Some brutal reality will set in for Israel, they will see some tank massacres on the level of 2006 if combat does start with Lebanon. Unfortunately, Israel dropped the ball in the last decade but US going woke limits their abilities.
 

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How every one is positioning. Interested only by those who clearly support Israel and those who call on UN resolution and the creation of 2 States. I count only countries who have military or/and economic power.
1) Clear support for Israel : US, EU, India, France, Germany, Brits, Nato... some more.
2) Call for creation of 2 States : Russia, China, KSA, Qatar etc... and some more.
The jury is still out, the majority of statement calls for restraints of both parties, respect of civilian lives and usual blabla...
Today's UNSC meeting on that subject is closed door...so no one is ready to start to show the cards in their hands I guess.
Yes.. 2 state solution is over...

That's precisely the point that the States that I mentioned in the second category in my list want to demonstrate.. They are forcing their hands in terminating the world order born post WWII and post Soviet Union collapse. But it cant be done without some firecrackers...the Day is still young, statements coming from the list II emanates from low level officials, MSM show restraints...and at some degree even Israel shows restraint. There must be some powerful handler behind Hamas in addition to it's usual one (Iran, Qatar, Turkey). Find who it is and what are his intentions, and then sell your farm and take position in the market...you will not have to worry for the live hood of your family for at least three generations ;-)
 

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Well yes, such is the job of an armchair analyst like the ones on DFI

What I am asking is that, whether India could quickly mobilize/declare war etc. with the speed Israel has?
Whether India can or not is something Indian Armed forces knows. We can only speculate.
 

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Where do you get this idea from? Emperor is almost naked swimming in debt with not even a molecule that exists without printing press working overtime....they can't even keep up with 10% of Russian ammo production in Ukraine...

West is the root cause of this islamic zombie disease encouraging and using them as lever to harass other civilizations with Bharat as prime victim....let others suffer for quite a bit.

Israel ambasoodor is correct, its their war and noone else including GOI make any statements in public....they should fight just like we do
Keep living in your dreams!
 

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Some brutal reality will set in for Israel, they will see some tank massacres on the level of 2006 if combat does start with Lebanon. Unfortunately, Israel dropped the ball in the last decade but US going woke limits their abilities.
Let us see what actually happens.
 

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Sure. If they can drop drugs off drone they can drop shells too. It will be ugly. Very ugly.
Actually I am thinking about the paragliding stunt. As we know, IA is reactive not proactive. So if this kind of stuff happens in our territory, IA will be as slow as the IDF.
 

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Some brutal reality will set in for Israel, they will see some tank massacres on the level of 2006 if combat does start with Lebanon. Unfortunately, Israel dropped the ball in the last decade but US going woke limits their abilities.
I doubt this is for invading Lebanon. It's probably for keeping a good defensive line on Golan and Lebanese border.

Tanks are still very potent weapons on open terrain.

Israel wouldn't attack any country right now. They're probably just going to maintain a defensive perimeter and wreck Gaza. I don't know how they will tackle the population there. Killing all of them is a stretch. Flooding Egypt with refugees might force Egypt to respond militarily.

Israel might unintentionally give us a rough blueprint to imitate in PoK, should it be captured.
 

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Some brutal reality will set in for Israel, they will see some tank massacres on the level of 2006 if combat does start with Lebanon. Unfortunately, Israel dropped the ball in the last decade but US going woke limits their abilities.
Reminds me of Ukraine war. How Russian tanks were taken out by drones.
 

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Actually I am thinking about the paragliding stunt. As we know, IA is reactive not proactive. So if this kind of stuff happens in our territory, IA will be as slow as the IDF.
Paragliding won't work here since jk has a pretty rough terrain.
 
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Well yes, such is the job of an armchair analyst like the ones on DFI

What I am asking is that, whether India could quickly mobilize/declare war etc. with the speed Israel has?
It depends on where the conflict is and to what extent the enemy has caused damage. It took more or less 1 month for the Indian army to begin a large enough offensive in Kargil, full mobilization would've taken place more or less 1 week max-to-max before that but that was with very meagre border infrastructure unlike the quite decent ones we have today. We may not take 1 month anymore but I doubt we will be as quick as Israel has been now if another Kargil like conflict arises. However, if it is something like what Hamas unleashed yesterday, the public outrage would be much higher and thereby there would be greater pressure on the government meaning more pressure on army top brass to take action which might result in a little bit more quicker mobilization but I don't think it still would be as quick as Israel did now.
 

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Keep living in your dreams!
I got no dreams on this one, US simply has no weight beyong CIA induced color crap that only exists because governments are tolerating them....beyond that their hardpower is chicken shit now as seen in Ukraine and even Iran retaliates at will.....full war this time with Arab world will force Israel to use its nukes. Uncle will be disrobed totally if more is demanded from them and world will see how hollowed out US is really....Israel will get some to refill stocks later, airforce is only usedful to some extent here.

US from Bill Clinton was the beginning of the end of empire's power.....results are slowly but unambiguously clear. ISrael should partner with India for production rates, that is the only way for them to have supply guarantees.
 

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I doubt this is for invading Lebanon. It's probably for keeping a good defensive line on Golan and Lebanese border.

Tanks are still very potent weapons on open terrain.

Israel wouldn't attack any country right now. They're probably just going to maintain a defensive perimeter and wreck Gaza. I don't know how they will tackle the population there. Killing all of them is a stretch. Flooding Egypt with refugees might force Egypt to respond militarily.

Israel might unintentionally give us a rough blueprint to imitate in PoK, should it be captured.
Problem is it may not be their choice or decision, only choice they may have is how to react. If they don't then zombies will double down.....losses are given for any tank armies now and Israel will have its own especially if fighting takes place with hands tied aka civilian bs
 

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