Islamic state killed two abducted Chinese nationals in Balochistan

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It is this same Chinese who were blocking Masood Azhaar been declared as terrorist...

Chinese are reaping what they have sowed ... sleeping with the Pakistani terrorists ...
 

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It is this same Chinese who were blocking Masood Azhaar been declared as terrorist...

Chinese are reaping what they have sowed ... sleeping with the Pakistani terrorists ...
Just like common Pakis are dispensable for Paki establishment. Common Chinese are dispensable for Chinese govt as long they are not favored party elites .
 

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@AnantS

China is a banana republic where common people are not allowed the freedom of expression,,,

Chinese were hobnobbing with the terrorists when it suits them ... now it has come back to bit them ...
 

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It is this same Chinese who were blocking Masood Azhaar been declared as terrorist...

Chinese are reaping what they have sowed ... sleeping with the Pakistani terrorists ...
Oh dada i don't think CCP would give a flying f**k to the deaths of two nationalities.They themselves have killed a lot of their owns in most horrible way possible.
 

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Sad, they both look so young. Should have known better than to accept a job in Pakistan. Nobody in their right minds would do that from a Western country, wonder what kind of propaganda the Chinese government feeds them.

@amoy @J20! : Condolences and please share your thoughts.
They are reportedly working for a Korean evangelist NGO, which runs the school "ARK Academy". Koreans are known as the most fervent in this regard.

What makes u assume that nobody from a "western country" would do that? FYI there're lots of such westerners venturing in Afghanistan, Mexico or Syria out of different motives.

Underneath the CPEC strategy, those who're well informed are fully aware of Pakistan situation / underlying Islamic nature. Those enterprises investing in Pakistan should have done a thorough risk assessment and risk control, as well as financial analysis. As for individuals they'd have to brace themselves up in their endeavours...

Pakistan, like India and Myanmar - which I put in the same category - basically lack a strong and effective "centralized" governance, unlike those "modernized" states we're familiar with. Of their federal administered "tribal areas", and Baluchistan etc., Pakistan military even doesn't have a full grip. And their economy = lands are held mostly by big landlords, and politics = dynastic and highly regionalized (Punjab, Sind...). Ethnically... Tribals... Mullahs... Unlike Japan, Korea, USA and China... chastened by reforms or revoluntions, and restructured socially and spiritually.

All in all a homework has to be done during explorations in such highly tumultuous areas.
 
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Pakistan, like India and Myanmar - which I put in the same category - basically lack a strong and effective "centralized" governance, unlike those "modernized" states we're familiar with. Of their federal administered "tribal areas", and Baluchistan etc., Pakistan military even doesn't have a full grip. And their economy = lands are held mostly by big landlords, and politics = dynastic and highly regionalized (Punjab, Sind...). Ethnically... Tribals... Mullahs... Unlike Japan, Korea, USA and China... chastened by reforms or revoluntions, and restructured socially and spiritually.
Strong and "centralized" governance, is not always effective government. China, North Korea, Saudi Arabia which I all put in same category have caused enough upheavals/misery to their citizens, that there an underlying resentment brewing which puts stability of these countries questionable in long run. Authoritarian regimes may crush any vocal criticism or dissidence among their own people to create illusion of "all is well".

Its sad that two chinese lost their lives, but I am afraid might be indication to China how painful investment process its going to be. But its Chinese govt has not done enough homework while investing. Unfortunately, the country the Pakistan how it is, is faint reminder of Pakistan where there are many local "power"(or influence) centers. China would have to cut deal with each one of them and then send her minions to milk any money from business. Making it very expensive for China in the long run.
 

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when the USA AID for pakistan is not sufficient enough to protect chinese interest in the region.

Then ISI and ISIS will milk china . l
Chinese are More Intelligent than madarsa-chap pakis , China will establish several Military bases in The Name of security ............and then they will colonize Pakistan ..............and Paki citizens would not be able to Oppose them .
 

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I don't think u got my drift in comparison.

Post-WW2 Japan, for example had a thorough separation of religion (shintoism) from politics. China has always been "secular" from time immemorial. From time to time Chinese dynasties put religious clout in check in order not to challenge the regime. That's not the case in Pakistan and India. India has a Muslim Personal Law, instead of a uniform civil code.

Japan (under US admin.) and China implemented land reforms and redistributed lands to farmers. Meantime in Pakistan Bhutos and Shariffs are the top landlords. So is feudalism in India resulting in Naxalite insurgencies (compounded by religious and ethnic tensions.) Farmers are the most staunch supporters of Japan's LDP, and the biggest beneficiaries from China's revolution and reform (what 'strong" and 'centralized" implies).

... The above is to showcase u what fundamental socio-eco transformation means. Consequently there's no soil for radicalism and communalism in countries like Japan and China, in contrast to Pakistan and India. Only until recently has Modi admin. started to push forward a uniform tax system.

Do some drill-down, rather than wielding the over-simplistic "totalitarian" brush.


Strong and "centralized" governance, is not always effective government. China, North Korea, Saudi Arabia which I all put in same category have caused enough upheavals/misery to their citizens, that there an underlying resentment brewing which puts stability of these countries questionable in long run. Authoritarian regimes may crush any vocal criticism or dissidence among their own people to create illusion of "all is well".

Its sad that two chinese lost their lives, but I am afraid might be indication to China how painful investment process its going to be. But its Chinese govt has not done enough homework while investing. Unfortunately, the country the Pakistan how it is, is faint reminder of Pakistan where there are many local "power"(or influence) centers. China would have to cut deal with each one of them and then send her minions to milk any money from business. Making it very expensive for China in the long run.
 
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Pakistan, like India and Myanmar
I'm very puzzled, why do you think India does not have an effective centralized government? Kashmiris are learning about it first hand as did other separatist movements. Also, USA is not centralized and has a lot of control delegated to the states. I hope for your sake that China has done their homework and understood the nature of the Muslim beast because it will bite the hand that feeds it eventually.
 

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I think chinese a$$ is on fire, china is equal to north korea stature as a country in reality, except it has money pimped out from own citizens and kill those who oppose it. No wonder 2 chinese citizens killed by pakistanis is a matter of 2 flies dead to them. Such a super power stature is dreamt by draconian blood sucking commies.
 

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ISI and PA will squeeze more $$ from China in the name of Kabz e Daesh. Porkis have trapped China bigtime.
It's more like the Chinese now have an excuse to deploy the PLA in Balochistan for 'protection' of their assets. This could have been a false flag op by the Chinks themselves!

Note that Baluchistan has billions of dollars worth of minerals which the Chinks are eyeing, and scheming to get it under their control. The spoils of Baluchistan are too tempting to ignore.
 

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It reminds me 2002 karachi bomb attack on french engineers by pakis over non payment of cut money.

Bloody paki havaldars will put bomb in their own mom's a$$ if they paid right amount of money
 

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Chinese are More Intelligent than madarsa-chap pakis , China will establish several Military bases in The Name of security ............and then they will colonize Pakistan ..............and Paki citizens would not be able to Oppose them .
pakistani security failures give china the credibility to start own security apparatus inside pakistan.
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Thats how its rolling..I agree
 

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2 Chinese National thrashed in Pakistan


A Chinese investor has sought police help in pakistan claiming that he and another businessman were thrashed by his Pakistani business partner over a sour hotel deal here.

Liu Xiao Long, in his application to the interior ministry, has alleged that Ishtiaq Ali thrashed him and another Chinese man on Sunday in Islamabad's F-7 sector.

Liu claimed that he had entered into a deal with Ali and they set up a hotel. He paid Rs one million as security deposit to his Pakistani partner.

However, when the business did not succeed as per the expectations, Ali got furious, he said.

He said Ali was constantly pestering him with demand to pay money as part of his share, which he could not as the business was slow despite his sincere efforts.

Liu said Ali on Sunday came with a group of men and beat him up. They also assaulted a Chinese businessman Liu-Weixing staying in their hotel.

Ali allegedly threw Long out of the premises and refused to pay back the security deposit.:rofl::rofl:

Police have lodged an FIR in this connection.

Chinese are coming in big numbers to Pakistan to reap the benefit of business opportunities offered by USD 50 billion China-Pakistan Economic Corridor.

The ambitious CPEC project will link the Pakistani city of Gwadar to China's Xinjiang via a vast network of highways and railways.


http://www.defencenews.in/article/2-Chinese-National-thrashed-in-Pakistan-262516
 

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Chinese are More Intelligent than madarsa-chap pakis , China will establish several Military bases in The Name of security ............and then they will colonize Pakistan ..............and Paki citizens would not be able to Oppose them .
Exactly this incident will justify the Chinese military bases in Pakistan.
 

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many suspicious things in these killing.
1) 2 Chinese working as school teachers that too in Baluchistan (can be undercover operatives)
2)if isis wanted to kill them then isis could have done that directly.... meens on spot killing.....but that didnt happened, isis kidnapped them,kept in captivity for 1 month then killed them. no Ransom was asked ( seems like isi captured them interrogated them for 1 month and then killed both)
 
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many suspicious things in these killing.
1) 2 Chinese working as school teachers that too in Baluchistan (can be undercover operatives)
2)if isis wanted to kill them then isis could have done that directly.... meens on spot killing.....but that didnt happened, isis kidnapped them,kept in captivity for 1 month then killed them. no Ransom was asked ( seems like isi captured them interrogated them for 1 month and then killed both)
Now Chinese can claim Pakistani army is incompetent and start to patrol those areas directly .
 

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