Is Iran Invasion coming !

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On June 21, 2004, while imperialist UK Forces (along with US) were terrorizing Iraq, one boat of IR-Navy, comprising of just 3 to 4 men of IRGC, arrested 8 British soldiers, from 3 boats, in Arvand River. (News: UK forces secretly join US troops in Persian Gulf against Iran)


 

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NO,Iran is Shia

The Khilafat movement, also known as the Indian Muslim movement (1919–24), was a pan-Islamist political protest campaign launched by Muslims of British India led by Shaukat Ali, Mohammad Ali Jauhar and Abul Kalam Azad to restore the caliph of the Ottoman Caliphate, who was considered the leader of Sunni Muslims, as an effective political authority. It was a protest against the humiliating sanctions placed on the caliph and the Ottoman Empire after the First World War by the Treaty of Sèvres.[2][3]

The movement collapsed by late 1922 when Turkey gained a more favourable diplomatic position and moved towards secularism. By 1924 Turkey simply abolished the role of caliph.[4]

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Turkey themselves hated Calipha is supported by converted pigs,abul kalam azad&gandi in India :pound:... Now u ask what is Calipha ?

The same Calipha which ISIS is fighting for and want to establish all over the world.

BTW the same man aka ISIS ideology supporter Abul kalam azad is our first educational minister and wrote entire Indian history.... we are still studying it in our schools. :frusty:
Methinks he was saying in general terms that if there is some upheaval in Iran, then Indian Shias will mobilize and cause problems in India.
 

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Americans since the time of the end of the second world War have taken pride in the fact that despite the concentration of the greatest fighting force ever put together, since the Napoleon's France, they have not deployed this fiersome fighting force for world conquest.

This benign benevolence is coming to an end. America is now prepared to use this awesome military power to alter geopolitical - geo economical situations in its favor. Imagine USA straddling a land mass all the way from Egypt to borders of Pakistan. The age of Pax Americana is at its end. The age Emporium Americana is at hand.
 

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BREAKING: US says there are signs Syrian regime is using chemical weapons

 

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Look at this way, Americans consider war with Iran will be easy, may be only little more tougher than Afghanistan, but still a walkover. This confidence comes from being a superpower. It's difficult for regional powers like us to understand (imagine India worrying about invading Nepal or Sri Lanka - actually we won't worry)

I agree it will be tough but nothing that a superpower cannot surmount. I doubt their air defense will outlast sustained aerial assault, despite their S-300. Iran cannot expect any support from thier sunni neighbors. Iraq in all probability will act neutral. It's likely that the attack will be from the south (on the Persian gulf coast) and this region is sparsely populated (most of the population is in the northeast) American might find themselves on advantageous terrain and force the Iranians to spread out (Iran would have found it easier defending thickly populated regions around Teheran)
Superpower does not mean superman. Even superpower has limits. Iran has vast missile force unlike Iraq. this missile numbers in lakhs and are specifically meant to disrupt oil supply and bases in GCC countries. Iran can be invaded only if countries in its neighbourhood like UAE, Iraq and Pakistan agree to have USA bases. None of the countries' people support USA though the heads of KSA & UAE support USA. The people within Gulf countries may turn hostile as Iran has significant soft power as a strong muslim country and the KSA, UAE as sell outs.

USA invading by airplane is a joke. Invasion requires ground forces and there is no substitute. erey bombing and ruining Iran can be done by air but not invasion. Also, when iran retaliates by launching missiles, the entire oil supply chain will be destroyed. This is too big a price to pay as 50% of world oil exports is from Gulf region. Entire world economy will collapse.

There is unlikely to be invasion

Iran is our good ally , we could have acted as a link between israel and Iran , Iran is quite useful is balancing gulf countries and their version of islam
Iran is not an ally. Iran supports Kashmir freedom and has kicked out India from Farzad B gas despite Iran having 1000TCF of gas, most of it lying unused whereas Fazad-B had 14TCF gas only. Ira even delayed Chabahar port and reented only after sanctions threat came back. What kind of ally is Iran?
 

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Without Iran the Suni World of Islam will go berserk. Iran at least provides a balance in the form of Shia crescent. Let us watch and see. Iran being at the soft belly of Russia, their reactions would be worth watching. Time to make some money for them.
Iran never claims it to be shiite movement but pan-islamic movement. Iran president came to India and visited Sunni mosque in hyderabad to show solidarity with muslims. It is only Saudi Arabia, GCC & its western allies who calls Iran Shiite. Saudi Arabia is backed by vast resources and western might that it has managed to spread propaganda that Iran is shiite regime. Nevertheless, reality is different and muslims at various levels acknowledge this. So, Iran is much more dangerous than GCC countries. GCC countries are more pragmatic whereas Iran is highly aggressive beyond its capability limits and would regularly warmonger if it gets a chance.
 

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If Iran is enriching uranium then Russia will let it be bombed by USA.
 

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Superpower does not mean superman. Even superpower has limits. Iran has vast missile force unlike Iraq. this missile numbers in lakhs and are specifically meant to disrupt oil supply and bases in GCC countries. Iran can be invaded only if countries in its neighbourhood like UAE, Iraq and Pakistan agree to have USA bases. None of the countries' people support USA though the heads of KSA & UAE support USA. The people within Gulf countries may turn hostile as Iran has significant soft power as a strong muslim country and the KSA, UAE as sell outs.

USA invading by airplane is a joke. Invasion requires ground forces and there is no substitute. erey bombing and ruining Iran can be done by air but not invasion. Also, when iran retaliates by launching missiles, the entire oil supply chain will be destroyed. This is too big a price to pay as 50% of world oil exports is from Gulf region. Entire world economy will collapse.

There is unlikely to be invasion


Iran is not an ally. Iran supports Kashmir freedom and has kicked out India from Farzad B gas despite Iran having 1000TCF of gas, most of it lying unused whereas Fazad-B had 14TCF gas only. Ira even delayed Chabahar port and reented only after sanctions threat came back. What kind of ally is Iran?
Missiles numbering in lakhs?... Sure you are not exaggerating?
 

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Pakistan is desperate and humiliated by the rise of India. They will spread their legs to USA and help them work against Iran.
 

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Missiles numbering in lakhs?... Sure you are not exaggerating?
All forms of missile including AshM, rockets, tactical missiles, MRBM torpedo combined, the number is in 6 digits. Iran lacks precision missiles but makes it up in numbers. So, Iran will not be able to destroy the military target precisely but can target oil wells, refineries, ports which are quite big structures in open space and easily target-able. Iran also has plans ready to completely destroy all shipping from nearby seas using torpedoes, mines and AshM.
 

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I already posted it in first page.
These are the MAJOR US bases.

Strong Shia muslim country!!

Do u think ISIS-Islamic state of Iraq&Syria /Sunni militant group just emerged like that??

In Syria &Iraq sunni&shia muslim population is 40-60% , two groups hate each other and finally civil war erupts.



That is why never trust any islamic country/man either shia or sunni or ahmadi or other 72 sects
USA has no bases in Pakistan as of now. Also, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan etc are all under Russian sphere of influence and its head of states are Russian allies. They don't allow USA bases there. Afghanistan bases are not well equipped as it does not have direct supply lines except via Pakistan.

USA does not have a direct and well supplied land base to invade Iran. It has to rely on overseas bases. Also, the missiles and threat to destroy oil infrastructure by Iran is too serious to be taken lightly.

ISIS and other problems came up due to USA and KSA interference. USA created terror and rebel groups. When KSA stepped in its ISIS to counter the rebel groups, the ISIS crisis started. KSA wanted to throw out USA influence and ended up creating ISIS to counter Arab spring. Eventually, the rebel groups were also convinced by KSA to join ISIS.

I agree to never trust any muslim country.
 

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All forms of missile including AshM, rockets, tactical missiles, MRBM torpedo combined, the number is in 6 digits. Iran lacks precision missiles but makes it up in numbers. So, Iran will not be able to destroy the military target precisely but can target oil wells, refineries, ports which are quite big structures in open space and easily target-able. Iran also has plans ready to completely destroy all shipping from nearby seas using torpedoes, mines and AshM.
I doubt even if you count all the artillery rounds, the figure would come to lakhs. I cannot comment on the quality and accuracy of Iranian missile, so we will wait for them to fire the missiles to find out out (ie if they are allowed to fire).... As far as superpower vs supermen, supermen are fiction and superpower is real.
 

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I doubt even if you count all the artillery rounds, the figure would come to lakhs. I cannot comment on the quality and accuracy of Iranian missile, so we will wait for them to fire the missiles to find out out (ie if they are allowed to fire).... As far as superpower vs supermen, supermen are fiction and superpower is real.
Superpower is just relative terms. Superpower does not mean stronger than all others. Since Iran has its own missiles and reverse engineered F4 planes which it can manufacture on its own, it is not exactly a push over. Combined but just strongest of them all. Combined with the fact that USA is half the way around the world and has to supply logistics from far away land, it becomes very difficult to simply crush Iran.

About missiles, lakh missile is not a big deal. Since the missile involves tactical missiles (to strike nearby ports of UAE & other gulf areas) this is no big deal. Tactical missiles are like MRBL rockets and are generally made in large numbers ranging in tens of thousands. About artillery, india buys 1 lakh artillery round even in peace time. In Kargil war, 5000 round were fired in few days and that was just a skirmish.
 

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BREAKING: US says there are signs Syrian regime is using chemical weapons

Merica will repeat Vietnam war script in Iran
 

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Superpower is just relative terms. Superpower does not mean stronger than all others. Since Iran has its own missiles and reverse engineered F4 planes which it can manufacture on its own, it is not exactly a push over. Combined but just strongest of them all. Combined with the fact that USA is half the way around the world and has to supply logistics from far away land, it becomes very difficult to simply crush Iran.

About missiles, lakh missile is not a big deal. Since the missile involves tactical missiles (to strike nearby ports of UAE & other gulf areas) this is no big deal. Tactical missiles are like MRBL rockets and are generally made in large numbers ranging in tens of thousands. About artillery, india buys 1 lakh artillery round even in peace time. In Kargil war, 5000 round were fired in few days and that was just a skirmish.
Superpower is not a relative term, it's an epithet coined by cold war observer who couldn't come to terms with the obscene concentration of military power. Iranians only need to step inside neighboring Iraq or Afghanistan to have their superpower Epiphany.

During the cold War years there was a joke that a superpower was everyone's neighbor. In case of Iran the joke is quite literal. Surely you must be joking about pitting F4 against a F15 or a F22. I'm not suggesting Iranians will be push overs, but neither was Iraq.
 

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Superpower is not a relative term, it's an epithet coined by cold war observer who couldn't come to terms with the obscene concentration of military power. Iranians only need to step inside neighboring Iraq or Afghanistan to have their superpower Epiphany.

During the cold War years there was a joke that a superpower was everyone's neighbor. In case of Iran the joke is quite literal. Surely you must be joking about pitting F4 against a F15 or a F22. I'm not suggesting Iranians will be push overs, but neither was Iraq.
Iraq was worthless without any defence industry whereas Iran has significant defence industry. Iraq had 100% imported equipment whereas Iran has mostly indigenous equipment which can be made enmasse. if you saw how MiG21 shot down F16, similar chances are there with iran too. Iran's ability to manufacture in large quantity is the key point in making Iran much stronger. Despite having lower quality weapons, the mass scale manufacturing stil makes them better than having a few small number of high end planes.

Super power is a country with vast resources (mainly oil and food), high end defence technology and large enough population to project power outside. So, it is a relative term as the amount of resource and technology with one country exceeds that of another country relatively. Afghanistan is a war torn country with tribals fighting since 1970s. Iraq had very small population and no defence technology or food. Iran, on the other hand, imports only 35% of its food and has 8 crore population and some indigenous technology. Food can be the only real weakness of iran. But Iran has stockpiled enough food for contingencies. So, that is not something that can be pressed for quic victory
 

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Somebody had said on this forum that Vijiyes is same as kshtij, is same as advaidya tiwari. By seeing lakhs of missiles here, i am now sure, he was right. :troll:
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Iran: 'Thousands of missiles' to rain on Israel

Iran is threatening to launch a massive missile strike against Israel if the United States attacks Syria for using chemical weapons against its own people, which could touch off a full-blown war in the region.

“The day of reckoning is near,” according to Hossein Shariatmadari, the chief editor of Keyhan newspaper, an outlet controlled by Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

An Op-Ed penned by Shariatmadari Tuesday warned that the impending confrontation between the West and Syria would “provide the long-awaited opportunity for revenge against Israel and America.”

The editor recalled the U.S.-led attack on Baghdad on March 20, 2003, and President George W. Bush’s boast to reporters seven days later that the “Iraq war is over.” But when the last U.S. soldiers were leaving Iraq in December 2011, nearly 4,500 Americans had been killed and the war had cost America trillions of dollars.

Shariatmadari said that Washington, instead of open war against Syria, has been waging a proxy war against the Assad regime with the help of Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Jordan and Egypt. He said now it is ready to directly confront Syria militarily, one of the members of the Resistance Front along with Iran and Lebanon’s Hezbollah. However, despite Syrian rebels receiving financial and military support from those Middle East countries, not only has the Assad regime not been overthrown but it has opened a “new chapter for the Resistance where it formed the forces of ‘defense of Homeland,’ a force similar to the Basij militias (in Iran).”

Iran has long drawn a red line around the Assad regime. And Hezbollah fighters in Lebanon, Israel’s neighbor, are armed with thousands of missiles. The three members of the Resistance Front have a joint war room.

“Because of the failure of the intended proxy war, America and some Arab and European countries are preparing to attack Syria on the false claims that the Assad regime has used chemical weapons,” the editor said. “However, America can certainly start the war but it won’t be the one to end it.”


Shariatmadari said that Israel is the “Achilles’ heel of America and its European allies and without a doubt with the start of an attack on Syria, thousands of missiles will rain down all over the occupied lands (Israel), which will destroy its critical facilities as it was obvious that its missile defense system (the Iron Dome) could not prevent missiles reaching Tel Aviv.”

He also warned Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Turkey and others who support attacking Syria that they themselves will come under attack from Syria.

“Muslims should welcome the news of an attack on Syria as it will provide the long-awaited opportunity for revenge, which should destroy the enemies of Islam,” Shariatmadari concluded.

Seyed Reza Taghavai, the head of Iran’s Policy Council of Friday Prayers, hinted that Khamenei is guiding the events in Syria, Lebanon and Gaza despite Iran publicly saying that it has nothing to do with them, Fars News Agency reported Monday. “People stand tall because of (Khamenei’s) guidance and in Syria where it has resisted against the unbelievers,” he said.

Meanwhile, the Islamic regime’s reporting agency Abna.ir published images of commanders of the Zolfaghar Battalion fighting in Syria. It said that the Zolfaghar and Abolfazle Abass battalions are mostly made up of Iraqi and Lebanese Shiites in fighting the Syrian rebels.

Iran’s Quds Forces have long trained Shiites to fight alongside Assad’s forces in Syria. Many of these fighters enter Syria through Iraq.

Last week an alleged chemical weapons attack targeted the outskirts of Damascus, which so far has taken the lives of more than a thousand civilians. The attack was later confirmed by the United States and European countries, who called for a response. The Obama administration has hinted in recent days that there will be a military response to using chemical weapons, which Secretary of State John Kerry called “a moral obscenity.”

Meanwhile, Foreign Policy magazine reported today that U.S. eavesdropping confirmed the existence of the chemical attack.

“Last Wednesday, in the hours after a horrific chemical attack east of Damascus, an official at the Syrian Ministry of Defense exchanged panicked phone calls with the leader of a chemical weapons unit, demanding answers for a nerve agent strike that killed more than 1,000 people,” the magazine reported.

“Those conversations were overheard by U.S. intelligence services,” Foreign Policy said in a statement. “That is the major reason why American officials now say they’re certain that the attacks were the work of the Bashar al-Assad regime – and why the U.S. military is likely to attack that regime in a matter of days.”
 

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