INSAS Rifle, LMG & Carbine

[sydsnyper]

I just saw this post on FB of a pic of an IWI Negev with the title that India had developed an indigenous MMG and named it after Guru Gobind Singh - the GGS 98.. The pic obviously is a fake, but is the news true ?

 

[Sam@Indian]

INSAS Rifle (an abbreviation of Indian Small Arms System) is a family of infantry arms comprising of an assault rifle, a light machine gun and a carbine.

It is manufactured by the Ordnance Factories Board (OFB) at Ordnance Factory Tiruchirappalli, Small Arms Factory Kanpur and Ishapore Rifle Factory.

The Insas Assault Rifle is the standard infantry weapon of the Indian Armed Forces.

Variants of INSAS Assualt Rifle


INSAS Standard rifle (5.56 mm) - issued to Indian Army & Paramilitary, with folding and fixed butt variants, fires semi-automatic and three round burst. An assault variant is also manufactured with full auto fire mode along with semi & three burst mode, used by Indian Army.

INSAS (Foldable Butt) (5.56 mm)- It resembles 5.56 mm Assault Rifle Fixed Butt in all other features except that the Fixed Butt is replaced with a foldable type of Butt to shorten the overall length and it does not include automatic mode of firing.It is most suitable for combat from ICV and in Para Troopers role.[5]

INSAS LMG 5.56 mm INSAS (folding and fixed butt variants) - An Indian version of Squad Automatic Weapon (SAW) Incorporated for suppressive and cover fire for troops. Barrel is designed for long and continued fire,It has auto fire mode with 30 round feed capacity along with Bipods. Meant to replace the old Bren LMG.


Kalantak Micro Assault Rifle 5.56mm

KALANTAK 5.56 mm micro assault rifle (under-going user trials), - Kalantak Micro Assault Rifle is a gas operated automatic, air cooled, folding butt Rifle for CQB & Personnel Defence Weapon Role. The weapon uses the same ammunition (5.56x45mm) as used in Rifle/ LMG, thus reducing the logistic problems in having different kinds of ammunition for different role of weapons. It's design and mechanism is simple and having the capability to accommodate the various modern optical sights like Red Dot Sight, Holographic, MARS etc., available internationally in the market. Due consideration has been given for Reliability, Ergonomics and Aesthetics in designing of the Weapon. The furniture items will be subjected to continual improvement from human engineering point of view.

Modern Sub Machine Carbine - A submachinegun in the INSAS family, which uses unique 5.56×30mm MINSAS ammunition designed specially for the gun. The magazine is in the pistol grip as in the Uzi. Passed two phases of trials by Army, third and final trial has been conducted in December 2009.


Link to the old thread

http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/indian-army/12708-insas-indian-small-arms-system.html


INSAS Amogh Carbine 5.56X30mm

I just has a query....Don't you think that the Charging handle of INSAS Rifle is a hindrance for quipping it with picatinny rail systems..

 

[Sam@Indian]

Re: New Rifles for Indian Army

I think so coz i used it..

1. INSAS 1b1 use iron sights with duel flip up sights for short ( 200 ) and long range ( 400 ), Its precision & Accuracy ( Grouping ) is good from average solider.

2. INSAS 1b1 takes not more than 50 secs to strip up fully..

3. INSAS 1b1 takes less than 20min for total clean up ( Every part ) in field area..

4. INSAS 1b1 work in mud and water so does over sand without proper cleaning..

5. INSAS 1b1 fires 120rnds continuously without oil spilling out or jamming / over heating up.

6. INSAS 1B1 dont make mush flash even at night..

7. INSAS 1B1 dont make lots of smoke either..

8. INSAS 1B1 empty weight is less than 3kgs..

Right now these are in my mind..

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Used TAR-21 on range once, It was good experience but totally different philosophy..

....What about the reliability issues that everyone keeps complaining about??....Is INSAS a reliable assault rifle??

 

[Rahul Singh]

I just has a query....Don't you think that the Charging handle of INSAS Rifle is a hindrance for quipping it with picatinny rail systems..

It's exactly what IA wanted it as. They wanted ARDE to repeate SLR's. Interestingly in SLR's era optice were rare but in INSAS's nothing but regular. Have to say what a futuristic decision on IA's part.

 

[sayareakd]

....What about the reliability issues that everyone keeps complaining about??....Is INSAS a reliable assault rifle??

It depend upon what you want to do with it. If you want to shoot at 400+ meters and injure enemy its good and reliable.

If you want to kill enemy and use it as LMG or full auto, its not your weapon.

 

[sayareakd]

It's exactly what IA wanted it as. They wanted ARDE to repeate SLR's. Interestingly in SLR's era optice were rare but in INSAS's nothing but regular. Have to say what a futuristic decision on IA's part.

SLRs are good to be made like sniper rifles with additional goodies like laser range finder and automatic aiming solutions with modern addons. Its good for 1500 meters

 

[Rahul Singh]

SLR is good but heavy. So i would prefer INSAS LMG as a base design for sniper rifle. Specifically as a squard sniper rifle. A Dragunov replacement if i may.
For special missions we already have AMR Vidhwanshak.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

As long as one know how to maintain his rifle as per procedure, No complain should arise ..

There were few things that kept repeating on media outlets, These things were cleared long back ..

....What about the reliability issues that everyone keeps complaining about??....Is INSAS a reliable assault rifle??

 

[Hari Sud]

Yes Kunal Biswas, it is presumed by Presstitutes, that if they repeat a lie so often then it becomes the truth.

They all have foul mouthed the INSAS so much that unsuspecting people start believing the lie. Not until the previous COAS said on TV that INSAS has no problems, I was almost ready to believe these analysts. There were very few posts, some by Kunal, which rubbished these contentions. No, nothing wrong with INSAS. When time comes a sexy looking multicaliber rifle of Indian origin will replace it. Until then INSAS and its derivative Excaliber are good to kill,the enemy.

 

[pmaitra]

Bharat Electronics night weapon sight on INSAS.

 

[tejas warrior]

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Bharat Electronics night weapon sight on INSAS.

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Is the Indigenous development? OR just make with TOT ?

 

[indiandefencefan]

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Bharat Electronics night weapon sight on INSAS.

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Is it attached with screws? Because for sure an optic like that would require picattiny rails to be used.

 

[sayareakd]

Is it attached with screws? Because for sure an optic like that would require picattiny rails to be used.

Its not screws, its an attachment, and if you see carefully, it has option to use the iron sight if the soldier wish to do the same.

I have seen this in person and its good for INSAS for night time.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Bharat Electronics make their own licensed image intensifiers and are offered with a variety of magnified lens for handheld use, These are used on RL, Rifles as well as Carbines.

Is the Indigenous development? OR just make with TOT ?

 

[Gessler]

Unrelated to INSAS, but : here's a PPSH-41 with an IR night sight, circa 1943.

 

[sasum]

Is the Indigenous development? OR just make with TOT ?

The story began in December 2006, when the home ministry put out a tender for NVDs. The tender stated that the devices were to be compatible with INSAS rifles and light machine guns (LMG) used by the paramilitary forces. For a long time, the ministry was unable to find a supplier. On November 19, 2008, during a target fixation meeting with the ministry, the Ordnance Factory Board said the Ordnance Factory Dehradun was developing an NVD for 5.56mm rifles and LMGs. It offered the device for trial.
On February 23, 2009, Dinesh Batra, senior deputy general manager, BEL, wrote to R.S. Sharma, then director of procurement, home ministry, that it could supply the required device. BEL claimed that it had developed a state-of-the-art NVD based on XD-4 technology, in technical collaboration with Prizmatech, a subsidiary of Star Defence Systems,Israel. The company website claims that “Prizmatech was established as Israel Defence Force’s biggest source for night vision devices.” In early 2009, a fresh ‘request for proposal’ was issued, leading to BEL winning the contract.
On June 23, 2009, a trial was conducted at the Border Security Force range in Gurgaon. The trial team consisted of officers of the BSF, Indo-Tibetan Border Police, National Security Guard and Central Reserve Police Force. BEL provided two models for trial—PR-1614 F and BEANS-0802. Ordnance Factory Dehradun also supplied two models—PNS-3X for INSAS and PNS-5.5X for LMG. Both failed the trials. BEANS-0802 failed the trial and the other one scraped through. P.C. Joshi, joint manager, Ordnance Factory Dehradun, declined to talk to THE WEEK about the trial procedure and results. Allegedly, the trial team endorsed BEL’s claims without testing the device’s magnification, operating temperature, battery life (which should be 15 hours) and resolution.
On January 7, 2010, S. Chattopadhyaya, inspector-general, BSF, issued a proprietary article certificate in favour of BEL stating that no other Indian firm manufactured passive night vision telescopic sights. “A proprietary article is given if a company develops three parts—casing, optics and II tubes,” said an officer who was on the trial team. “BEL developed none of these three critical objects.
Documents accessed by THE WEEK reveal that BEL did not manufacture the NVDs. It was only sourcing them from Prizmatech in “complete knocked down condition” and assembling them. Prizmatech, in turn, was procuring the II [Illumination] tubes from Photonics, a French company. THE WEEK has with it a letter of intent dated January 26, 2006, reference number CV/CB/150601, signed by Cor Boet, director, Photonics, addressed to Moti Solomon, reportedly a majority shareholder of Prizmatech. The letter proves the Prizmatech-Photonics deal. Interestingly, many of the II tubes do not have the mandatory identification number. Paramilitary officials told THE WEEK that some of the II tubes could have been bought off the grey market. “If a device does not have an identification number, that simply means that it has been taken from the grey market,”
In the NVD deal, transfer of technology was allegedly the cover to win the contract. BEL told THE WEEK that initially some NVDs were supplied in fully finished form fromIsrael. “In the second phase, items were supplied in completely knocked-down condition. Assembly and testing was done at BEL before supply,” BEL said. For the rest, BEL did what it calls an “in-depth manufacturing of mechanical and optical components”. But the question remains: how can Prizmatech transfer technology, when the II tubes were made by Photonics?
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[Chinmoy]

Electro optics by BEL....


http://www.bel-india.com/?q=electro-optics

 

[pmaitra]

Its not screws, its an attachment, and if you see carefully, it has option to use the iron sight if the soldier wish to do the same.

I have seen this in person and its good for INSAS for night time.

Thanks Mr. Sayare. You are correct. Here is the attachment point.

Picture credit: @Kunal Biswas

 

[Shaitan]

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[sayareakd]

Good to see Zen Tactical got INSAS simulator rifle.