INSAS Rifle, LMG & Carbine

[vishnugupt]

pls explain

DRDO initially offered 5.56×45 chambered Carbine. Then army complaint about sound,flash and recoil and asked to develop small round. JVPC developed with 5.56×30 misas but now goal post changed.

It's been more than 30 years since UN Generals couldn't decide what type/barrels gun they need.

 

[Chinmoy]

pls explain

IA always wanted a 556 NATO chambered carbine. They never asked for a 5.56x30 intermediate round. So talk about OFB CQB carbine instead of JVPC.
But no. For them its like, since I like JVPC, IA should also like it.

 

[Corvus Splendens]

DRDO initially offered 5.56×45 chambered Carbine. Then army complaint about sound,flash and recoil and asked to develop small round. JVPC developed with 5.56×30 misas but now goal post changed.

It's been more than 30 years since UN Generals couldn't decide what type/barrels gun they need.

They want foren maal, plain and simple. For example, why is there even a need for the AK203 when the TAR exists ?

They'll continue to ignore these too

 

[JBH22]

They want foren maal, plain and simple. For example, why is there even a need for the AK203 when the TAR exists ?
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Ak 203 is not a bad deal, we cannot afford to re-invent the wheel. At least it is reliable platform unlike that Sig 716i fiasco.

 

[vishnugupt]

They want foren maal, plain and simple. For example, why is there even a need for the AK203 when the TAR exists ?
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They'll continue to ignore these too
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I believe, foot soldiers should be provided best weapons. this not an issue for me. Problem is UN Generals who are crystal clear about requirements when it's come to foreign and become comatose when it's come to local.

UN Generals are batting for Caracal carbine hence punishing it's substitutes as usual.

Previously UN Generals fooled DRDO by giving interchangeable rifle gun requirement but eventually settled for AK203 and Sig

India need "Ammunition theatre command" to supply ever large different type of ammunition to soldiers on front.

 

[Chinmoy]

They want foren maal, plain and simple. For example, why is there even a need for the AK203 when the TAR exists ?
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More than love for foreign maal, its the hate for OFB maal by IA which was the driving force behind AK-203.

 

[Flying Dagger]

They want foren maal, plain and simple. For example, why is there even a need for the AK203 when the TAR exists ?
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Basically it's the production process and standard of OFB that they hate .

They are happily buying Indian private sector kits now and may shift to them completely in future.


But when you say OFB .... These 3 words haunt them.

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

They want foren maal, plain and simple. For example, why is there even a need for the AK203 when the TAR exists ?
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What gun is that in middle pic?

 

[Chinmoy]

What gun is that in middle pic?

6.8 mm firing INSAS derivative.

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

6.8 mm firing INSAS derivative.

Looks really good

 

[ShukantC]

6.8 mm firing INSAS derivative.

Is it a variant of the MCIWS, that multi caliber assault rifle that ARDE showcased quite a few years back, hell even the poster and the jawan is the same

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

Is it a variant of the MCIWS, that multi caliber assault rifle that ARDE showcased quite a few years back, hell even the poster and the jawan is the same

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What happened with this program? Still alive?

 

[Lonewarrior]

What happened with this program? Still alive?

No but yes but actually no...well time and time whenever there is a defence expo or something then both the gun and that specific jawaan gets reincarnated from the dead. That's all

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

No but yes but actually no...well time and time whenever there is a defence expo or something then both the gun and that specific jawaan gets reincarnated from the dead. That's all

So its as good as a showpiece now we can't have good things can we

 

[GigaChadBharatiya]

Guys do you think SSS defence have any chance of getting orders?

 

[SUPERPOWER]

Guys do you think SSS defence have any chance of getting orders?

Yes offcourse they can ..The only Criteria is they have to spend the same amount of R & D money which they have spent till now on our Super Genrols for convincing..

 

[Chinmoy]

Is it a variant of the MCIWS, that multi caliber assault rifle that ARDE showcased quite a few years back, hell even the poster and the jawan is the same

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Yes..

 

[Chinmoy]

What happened with this program? Still alive?

No. In cold sack as of now.

The program is too ambitious and bit illogical IMO.

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

No. In cold sack as of now.

The program is too ambitious and bit illogical IMO.

What are latest projects in work at ada rn then anything impressive they are working on?

 

[Chinmoy]

What are latest projects in work at ada rn then anything impressive they are working on?

ADA or ARDE?