INSAS Rifle, LMG & Carbine

[WolfPack86]

Why 1.4 Lakh SIG716 Gun over SSS Defense P72

 

[WolfPack86]

DRDO New 7.62mm LMG

 

[WolfPack86]

SSS Defence To Upgrade Indian Army’s Dragunov Sniper Rifles
Dragnunov sniper rifle’s upgradation is come into action when SSS defence , an Indian private company come out with indigenous solution that give rifle a major modifications.

Bangaloru based SSS defence is one of leading private company of India to design and manufacture small weapons.

The Northern command has came forward with request for proposal for a 90 piece of Dragunav rifles, for a estimate Indian army have near 6000-7000 rifles.

Dragunov sniper rifles (DSR) is a three decades old sniper rifle made by Soviet weapon designer Yevgeny Dragunov in 1950s. It is a gas-operated short-stroke piston rifle. For a long a time rifle has not gone through major upgradation.

Indian Army has been one of the largest users of the Dragunov sniper rifle and its different versions have been supplied by Russian. It has an effective range of 800 meters,

Why Army wants to upgrade Dragunov sniper rifles?
According to sources, rifles should fire 7000 rounds per barrel but most of them not done more than 3000 rounds.

This means that the rifle still has a long life ahead. It may not be a sniper weapon in the present day, but it is still a decent rifle. The Army will easily take a few years to acquire and induct a more lethal sniper weapon with effective ranges and advanced sniper rifle which has range more than 1.2 km.

The modern day sniper rifles that the Indian Army plans to procure are limited in numbers taken intentionally for long-range targets. Taking them into combat at intermediate ranges of 500m to 800m with expensive ammunition and highly trained snipers.

What upgradation will been done ?
A DSR upgrade can help bridge the gap between the age-old precision weapon and demands of modern infantry warfare. According to SSS Defence, they can significantly reduces recoil with a new tactical buttstock with a built-in monopod and adjustable cheek rest. Also they can add night firing capability in sniper rifle.

SSS Defence To Upgrade Indian Army's Dragunov Sniper Rifles » DefenceXP - Indian Defence Network

The long-awaited upgrade of the three decades old Dragunov sniper rifle (DSR) could become a reality by Indian private company.

www.defencexp.com

 

[WolfPack86]

Russian AK 203 vs Indian SSS P-72

 

[Clairvoyance]

Why move to 7.62x39 caliber instead of sticking with 5.56x45? Doesn't the 7.62 have less accuracy due to bullet drop?

 

[WolfPack86]

INDIGENOUS WEAPONS PREPARED IN KANPUR UNDER 'MAKE IN INDIA' INDUCTED INTO INDIAN ARMY
Kanpur: Canon 'Sharang', Belt Fed Light Machine Gun and Joint Venture Protective Carbine prepared in Kanpur under 'Make in India' movement were inducted to Indian Army on Sunday. The indigenous guns were modified to meet the requirements of Indian Army. It took about half the cost from International market to develop these weapons.

About Joint Venture Protective Carbine (JVPC)

The Modern Sub Machine Carbine (MSMC) is an Indian sub-machine gun designed by the Armament Research and Development Establishment and manufactured by Ordnance Factories Board. It is also known as Joint Venture Protective Carbine (JVPC). It was developed for the Indian Army, based on previous experience from the INSAS family of firearms. The gun is very lightweight and compact compared to other Indian-designed weapons. It is chambered for the 5.56×30mm MINSAS cartridge.

The MSMC was designed after the Indian Army's disappointment with the progress of a carbine version of the INSAS rifle and Amogh based on AK-47. The MSMC was designed to rectify the shortcomings of the previous developments. Through various trials and improvements, the ARDE came out with a grip-feeding, Uzi-like design that shortened the length of the weapon, making it more suitable for Close Quarter Combat purposes. Later its ergonomics were improved, boosting its export potential. The weapon is said to be capable of penetrating bullet-proof jackets. It was created as an offshoot of the INSAS small arms program.

Indigenous Weapons Prepared In Kanpur Under 'Make In India' Inducted Into Indian Army

DRDO's Joint Venture Protective Carbine (JVPC) Kanpur: Canon 'Sharang', Belt Fed Light Machine Gun and Joint Venture Protective Car...

www.indiandefensenews.in

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[harpreet288]

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• This Picture must've been or probably was posted on this forum. I'm sorry if I'm reposting it in a wrong topic (cause i didn't find a relevant topic please enlighten if there's a relevant one) so how did a GALIL ARM end up in the hands of Indian army? (if it has been pointed out then i apologise)

It's nothing new Galil is with the special forces for a long time since 2002.
Along with Tavor -21 ,and Galil is used as a marksmen rifle or as a DMR..

 

[Photon]

Which variant?1C

 

[Aditya Ballal]

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Which variant?1C

Looks like Excalibur Mk2.

 

[Johny_Baba]

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Which variant?1C

hard to say from potato quality pic, but you can see faint details of ;signature rivet-build receiver of INSAS; there, so most likely it's Excalibur Mk-1 that came out as next version of Excalibur i.e. this on right side, refer to quoted pic

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INSAS 1B1 & Excalibur MK-1 Rifles

on the other hand, Mk-1C Excalibur had milled receiver on it and almost ;smoother; on both sides with very few rivets-crosspins

INSAS 1C 5.56*45

 

[harpreet288]

Gurus...

I have a layman's question... Please answer it patiently.

Shouldn't MK1C retain the 3 round burst!?

Given that our soldiers carry 100 rounds of ammo(5*20 during peacetime)

Firing full auto eats away lots of Ammo. If I remember correctly, Americans in Vietnam war had fired almost 250,000 rounds for every kill(according to Vietnam war/M 16 documentary) and M16s had created lots of problems when soldiers tried to control the fire.

I know that we've come long way from Vietnam war. But 3 round burst sounds lot better and takes 6-7 trigger pulls(before we change the magazine) which would be higher than full auto trigger pulls.

I am a layman in firearms, please answer my questions in layman terms.

Thanks in advance.

3 round burst fire was also a known reason for jamming in Insas rifle and AR series rifles world over, that's why the particular feature was dropped and single and full auto was reintroduced this very less jamming in Insas now..

 

[harpreet288]

Gurus...

I have a layman's question... Please answer it patiently.

Shouldn't MK1C retain the 3 round burst!?

Given that our soldiers carry 100 rounds of ammo(5*20 during peacetime)

Firing full auto eats away lots of Ammo. If I remember correctly, Americans in Vietnam war had fired almost 250,000 rounds for every kill(according to Vietnam war/M 16 documentary) and M16s had created lots of problems when soldiers tried to control the fire.

I know that we've come long way from Vietnam war. But 3 round burst sounds lot better and takes 6-7 trigger pulls(before we change the magazine) which would be higher than full auto trigger pulls.

I am a layman in firearms, please answer my questions in layman terms.

Thanks in advance.

3 round burst fire was also a known reason for jamming in Insas rifle and AR series rifles world over, that's why the particular feature was dropped and single and full auto was reintroduced this very less jamming in Insas now..

 

[Super falcon]

Insas should have been replaced few months back

 

[Tactical Doge]

Insas should have been replaced few months back

And Packies should have ceased existing few months ago
Wake up kid the world isn't fair

 

[Super falcon]

And Packies should have ceased existing few months ago
Wake up kid the world isn't fair

What wrong I have said you army complained it's capabilities in winter and hot conditions and these jam alot

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

What wrong I have said you army complained it's capabilities in winter and hot conditions and these jam alot

Tactical Doge is pointing out that what "should" happen is not what happens most often... ANd we shouldnt have too high expectations.

 

[Tactical Doge]

Tactical Doge is pointing out that what "should" happen is not what happens most often... ANd we shouldnt have too high expectations.

He is only here to promote his youtube channel
Adds nothing of worth to the discussions

 

[WolfPack86]

While the army will buy 5,000 JVPCs, it wants the bulk of its carbines to be chambered for the bigger NATO 5.56x45 cartridge"
@adgpi
's twisted way of setting up the 5.56×30 chambered JVPC for failure ATAGS will die testing and the ARJUN Mk II will never achieve scale.

 

[Chinmoy]

While the army will buy 5,000 JVPCs, it wants the bulk of its carbines to be chambered for the bigger NATO 5.56x45 cartridge"
@adgpi
's twisted way of setting up the 5.56×30 chambered JVPC for failure ATAGS will die testing and the ARJUN Mk II will never achieve scale.

This Hukum guy is turning out to be a pinnacle of stupidity.

 

[WarmongerLSK]

This Hukum guy is turning out to be a pinnacle of stupidity.

pls explain