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INDIA TO MANUFACTURE INDIGENOUS MADE CARBINE FOR DEFENCE FORCES IN A STEP TOWARDS 'ATMANIRBHAR BHARAT'
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Yes, it is about Atmanirbharta or self-reliance, but more importantly, it is one of the first signs of "jointness," or the army, navy and air force planning to work together in designing and developing a weapon reports Times Now.

The Caracal, a carbine that the Indian army was planning to buy from the United Arab Emirates, has been put aside for the moment, at least and there are plans for an indigenously made carbine for the army, navy and air force. Instead of the 95,000 odd Caracal carbines, there is a plan for 4.2 lakh carbines to be made in India. Initial estimates suggest that the allocation for the project is going to be over Rs. 5,000 crores.

The production of over 4 lakh carbines will take time. Which is why there is a plan to allot the contract to two manufacturers, whether in the private or the public sector. This means that the L1 (or the firm with the best bids may get to make over 2 lakh carbines, but the firm that is L2 will get the remaining amount. This will ensure that the weapons are quickly delivered. A decision about splitting of contracts if they take longer than 3 years is yet to be taken but could be in the coming days. This is also something the armed forces favour.

The indigenous manufacture of something like a carbine has been discussed earlier. The argument, sources said, is simply this: why import something like a carbine that is not very high-tech. Why can't it be made in India, even by collaborating with a foreign firm? Such a process has already been initiated with plans for the joint manufacture by India and Russia of the AK-203 (Kalashnikov) assault rifle in a VIP constituency in Uttar Pradesh. A similar project for the carbine is entirely possible and the defence ministry is expected to take a decision on this very shortly.
 

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INDIA TO MANUFACTURE INDIGENOUS MADE CARBINE FOR DEFENCE FORCES IN A STEP TOWARDS 'ATMANIRBHAR BHARAT'
New Delhi:
Yes, it is about Atmanirbharta or self-reliance, but more importantly, it is one of the first signs of "jointness," or the army, navy and air force planning to work together in designing and developing a weapon reports Times Now.

The Caracal, a carbine that the Indian army was planning to buy from the United Arab Emirates, has been put aside for the moment, at least and there are plans for an indigenously made carbine for the army, navy and air force. Instead of the 95,000 odd Caracal carbines, there is a plan for 4.2 lakh carbines to be made in India. Initial estimates suggest that the allocation for the project is going to be over Rs. 5,000 crores.

The production of over 4 lakh carbines will take time. Which is why there is a plan to allot the contract to two manufacturers, whether in the private or the public sector. This means that the L1 (or the firm with the best bids may get to make over 2 lakh carbines, but the firm that is L2 will get the remaining amount. This will ensure that the weapons are quickly delivered. A decision about splitting of contracts if they take longer than 3 years is yet to be taken but could be in the coming days. This is also something the armed forces favour.

The indigenous manufacture of something like a carbine has been discussed earlier. The argument, sources said, is simply this: why import something like a carbine that is not very high-tech. Why can't it be made in India, even by collaborating with a foreign firm? Such a process has already been initiated with plans for the joint manufacture by India and Russia of the AK-203 (Kalashnikov) assault rifle in a VIP constituency in Uttar Pradesh. A similar project for the carbine is entirely possible and the defence ministry is expected to take a decision on this very shortly.
Buy 1 get a Mamata Banerjee life size target practice cutout free.
 

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Don't SSS defense, PLR Systems & Thales Kalyani already make great carbines? What is the problem in giving two or all three an order of 1.4 lakh carbine each?
Do you see the potential for your idea to be an absolute clusterfuck in terms of logistics at the battlefront?

Guns with multiple lines of production, lack of interchangeable parts at supply depots, problems with training on so many platforms are just some of the many problems.

Kalyani is the JV partner for this carbine deal with ARDE. PLR's Galil ACE and Tavor have been deemed suitable only for special forces, police SWAT and paramilitary units.
SSS's own M-72 and AR clone line is suitable for the same audience as PLR.

The design of the ARDE carbine has been refined to a satisfactory level and the involvement of a large private sector firm like Kalyani will ensure QC unlike OFB.
 

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Do you see the potential for your idea to be an absolute clusterfuck in terms of logistics at the battlefront?

Guns with multiple lines of production, lack of interchangeable parts at supply depots, problems with training on so many platforms are just some of the many problems.

Kalyani is the JV partner for this carbine deal with ARDE. PLR's Galil ACE and Tavor have been deemed suitable only for special forces, police SWAT and paramilitary units.
SSS's own M-72 and AR clone line is suitable for the same audience as PLR.

The design of the ARDE carbine has been refined to a satisfactory level and the involvement of a large private sector firm like Kalyani will ensure QC unlike OFB.
It's also mentioned that they are not going to give all 400,000 carbine orders to one private company. Also, no two private companies are going to manufacture the same weapons. If they standardize on one weapon then none of the aforementioned companies will get the order & a JV similar to the one with Kalashnikov will be formed with a PSU who will deliver them on their timelines.
 

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Indian Army rejects indigenously made rifles for second year in a row
The army decided to reject the 7.62x51 mm guns built by the Rifle Factory Ishapore after they miserably failed the firing tests last week.


The Indian Army has rejected an indigenously built assault rifle, citing poor quality and ineffective fire power, and is soon likely to take a fresh call on procuring similar weapons to replace the INSAS rifles.

The army decided to reject the 7.62x51 mm guns built by the Rifle Factory Ishapore after they miserably failed the firing tests last week.

Official sources said there were “excessive number of faults” in the guns and “complete redesigning of the magazine” was needed to consider the guns to be used by the Army.

“Excessive flash and sound signature” were observed in the rifles during the trials, they said adding reliability aspect of the weapons needs comprehensive analysis.

The rifles had excessive number of faults and stoppages to the extent of more than twenty times the maximum permissible standards, the sources said.

The Army last year had rejected another indigenously- built assault rifle called the 5.56 mm Excalibur guns as it did not meet the required standards.

A high-level meeting is being convened on Wednesday to decide about procurement of assault rifles for the armed forces. The meeting is likely to deliberate on specifications required for the assault rifles.

The meeting is being attended by representatives of the Army, the Air Force and the Navy besides top officials of the Defence Ministry.

The Army last year had floated Request for Proposal for the assault guns and around 20 firms had responded to it.

The Army badly needs the assault rifles it is learnt to have been disappointed over delay in their procurement.
 

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Indian Army rejects indigenously made rifles for second year in a row
The army decided to reject the 7.62x51 mm guns built by the Rifle Factory Ishapore after they miserably failed the firing tests last week.


The Indian Army has rejected an indigenously built assault rifle, citing poor quality and ineffective fire power, and is soon likely to take a fresh call on procuring similar weapons to replace the INSAS rifles.

The army decided to reject the 7.62x51 mm guns built by the Rifle Factory Ishapore after they miserably failed the firing tests last week.

Official sources said there were “excessive number of faults” in the guns and “complete redesigning of the magazine” was needed to consider the guns to be used by the Army.

“Excessive flash and sound signature” were observed in the rifles during the trials, they said adding reliability aspect of the weapons needs comprehensive analysis.

The rifles had excessive number of faults and stoppages to the extent of more than twenty times the maximum permissible standards, the sources said.

The Army last year had rejected another indigenously- built assault rifle called the 5.56 mm Excalibur guns as it did not meet the required standards.

A high-level meeting is being convened on Wednesday to decide about procurement of assault rifles for the armed forces. The meeting is likely to deliberate on specifications required for the assault rifles.

The meeting is being attended by representatives of the Army, the Air Force and the Navy besides top officials of the Defence Ministry.

The Army last year had floated Request for Proposal for the assault guns and around 20 firms had responded to it.

The Army badly needs the assault rifles it is learnt to have been disappointed over delay in their procurement.
Why are you posting an article from 2017?
 

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