INSAS Rifle, LMG & Carbine

[sbm]

Kunal, how are the troops reacting to the 1B1 and Excalibur 1C? I know they complained a lot about the early 1Bs. One SF operator complained bitterly about the wandering zero and unreliability of the 1B. Any more recent feedback? The quality seems to have improved.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Excalibur 1C is not fully operational yet, So its not possible to seek reliable comments ..

About improved 1B1, We have no complains as far as i am in touch with various units ..

Kunal, how are the troops reacting to the 1B1 and Excalibur 1C? I know they complained a lot about the early 1Bs. One SF operator complained bitterly about the wandering zero and unreliability of the 1B. Any more recent feedback? The quality seems to have improved.

 

[Rahul Singh]

A camouflaged INSAS 1B1, Its nothing new about 1B1 getting camo but this is unique paint job..

Could be from lot sold to Oman. Or Army may have decided to equip it formations working in the desert with appropriate camouflage pattern gear, finally.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

I doubt so, Its just another camouflaged 1B1 done by on initiative by respective unit ..

Could be from lot sold to Oman. Or Army may have decided to equip it formations working in the desert with appropriate camouflage pattern gear, finally.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Topics related to combat helmet are moved here >>

http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/threads/army-combat-helmet-deal-have-been-inked.77334/page-3

Continue discussion there ..

 

[Johny_Baba]

(Though i'm off topic)What's current status of other indigenous firearms such as Anamika sub-machine gun (H&K MP-5 clone),MSMC or JVPC Carbine,DRDO/OFB made 7.62 x 51mm Sniper rifle and finally MCIWS assault rifle ?

 

[Kunal Biswas]

ITBP, BSF & CRPF all are getting improved 1B1 in large scale ..

This suggest that INSAS factory didn't shut down its production but retain it with improved version until MK1C gets into mass production.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

1. JVPC has passed all user trails and wating for orders.

2. 7.62x51mm sniper rifle is under user trails via paramilitary and Army.

3. MCIWS is going through numerous changes as per user trails feedback, It will be again put to trails.

I cannot say much about Anamika as i haven't meet with concern OFB`s gentlemen for update.

(Though i'm off topic)What's current status of other indigenous firearms such as Anamika sub-machine gun (H&K MP-5 clone),MSMC or JVPC Carbine,DRDO/OFB made 7.62 x 51mm Sniper rifle and finally MCIWS assault rifle ?

 

[Rahul Singh]

I doubt so, Its just another camouflaged 1B1 done by on initiative by respective unit ..

I also think. Anyway i have long term complain about units deployed in the desert wearing green camouflage.

Women in jewels makes a sexy combo.

 

[Spectribution]

I also think. Anyway i have long term complain about units deployed in the desert wearing green camouflage.

Women in jewels makes a sexy combo.

In combat terms 0 use. This is OK for photo op but in actual war logistics and combat performance issues dog down mixed gender units.

 

[Saichand K]

1. JVPC has passed all user trails and wating for orders.

2. 7.62x51mm sniper rifle is under user trails via paramilitary and Army.

3. MCIWS is going through numerous changes as per user trails feedback, It will be again put to trails.

I cannot say much about Anamika as i haven't meet with concern OFB`s gentlemen for update.

SIr,
JVPC passed all the trials of the army? or of paramilitary? I was under the impression that army wants Israeli carbines. Correct me if Iam wrong.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

It cleared its user trails in late 2015 or early 2016, Army Afaik ..

All foreign carbines and AR version of them failed in India both in 2012 and 2014 user trails.

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You got simple terms twisted ..

SIr,JVPC passed all the trials of the army? or of paramilitary? I was under the impression that army wants Israeli carbines. Correct me if Iam wrong.

In combat terms 0 use. This is OK for photo op but in actual war logistics and combat performance issues dog down mixed gender units.

 

[republic_roi97]

1. JVPC has passed all user trails and wating for orders.

2. 7.62x51mm sniper rifle is under user trails via paramilitary and Army.

3. MCIWS is going through numerous changes as per user trails feedback, It will be again put to trails.

I cannot say much about Anamika as i haven't meet with concern OFB`s gentlemen for update.

Is there any pic/ info available on the DRDO/OFB 7.62x51mm Sniper Rifle ??

 

[Kunal Biswas]

I took a complete review of it and photos in detail, But i am afraid the design is not ready and will surely attract unnecessary bad remarks from beginning.

Is there any pic/ info available on the DRDO/OFB 7.62x51mm Sniper Rifle ??

 

[republic_roi97]

I took a complete review of it and photos in detail, But i am afraid the design is not ready and will surely attract unnecessary bad remarks from beginning.

No problem sir, post it please. Its still a member of the family.

 

[Saichand K]

I took a complete review of it and photos in detail, But i am afraid the design is not ready and will surely attract unnecessary bad remarks from beginning.

Sir, Please sir, atleast put one pic of it. We are eagerly waiting see this new sniper rifle.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

At first glance, The rifle look solid, The requirement given by user to put in wood stock, It has a nice bipod and p-rail for placing a 10X optics, It got adjustable cheek raiser and rubber pad at butt-stock, Its bolt action rifle chambered in 7.62x51mm, It comes with its own muzzle breaker and suppressor, The design is finished and in user trails but, The design may change and specs in time to come based on user feedback.

The rifle chambered for 7.62x51mm NATO rounds, It feature a 8cm long P-rail for placing its optical scope of 10x magnification for sniping role, Due to p-rail other optics can as well fit on to it, The rifle requirement set out in late 2015 by Army and paramilitary.

The rifle feature a adjustable cheek raiser and a rubber pad at its butt-stock so does sling attachment, The stock is made out of wood at request of users, The requirement is for a heavy rifle which can absorb recoil unlike those light designs made of fiber in new generation sniper rifles. The rifle yet to see many improvement over this original design in time.

There you go, I have lot more of it but will wait and took more in time to come when this design will mature in time ..

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Sir, Please sir, at-least put one pic of it. We are eagerly waiting see this new sniper rifle.

No problem sir, post it please. Its still a member of the family.

 

[Yodha]

There you go ..

Kunal sir, any specific reason for the requirement of a wooden stock?

The 'Indi'genization is down to the core.

 

[Filtercoffee]

Kunal sir, any specific reason for the requirement of a wooden stock?

The 'Indi'genization is down to the core.

Wow kuddos to the designer, beautiful simply beautiful.

 

[republic_roi97]

There you go, I have lot more of it but will wait and took more in time to come when this design will mature in time ..

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Awesome and thank you sir. The design seems to be pretty neat and user friendly. Any specific reason for wooden finish ? Otherwise good work done. I believe that the production vatiant might not be wooden.