INS Vishal (IAC- II) Aircraft Carrier - Flattop or Ski Jump

[jai jaganath]

This from "My Take" IDRW or "News Beat" IDRW?

Jo bhi hai
Par bawasir lika hai

 

[WolfPack86]

TEDBF Prototype,Pralay Induction,Armed LUH,INS Vishal CATOBAR,Gagan Strike

 

[Blademaster]

Yeah IN is going full speed on Catobar configuration carrier. Their mind is made up. They will not go for any more STOVL carrier unless they get a F-35B equivalent. They are not optimistic about getting that kind of plane so they want a CATOBAR carrier no matter what because it helps expand their options when it comes to selecting planes for their ship.

 

[Super falcon]

How much chances of BJP starting funding third AC for IN

 

[Love Charger]

How much chances of BJP starting funding third AC for IN

Indian government right now wishes to divert funds to built more frigates , nuke submarines and missile boats.
Ins vishal will also come someday but that is decades away from now

 

[rohit b3]

Indian government right now wishes to divert funds to built more frigates , nuke submarines and missile boats.
Ins vishal will also come someday but that is decades away from now

So all them cannot happen simultaneously?
Between 2010-2019 the Indian Navy didn induct 1 Carrier, 3 Destroyers, 10 Frigates and 5 Submarines?
Between 2020-2029 the Indian Navy is not inducting1 Carrier, 4 Destroyers, 11 Frigates and atleast 6 Submarines?
And all these were funded/paid for when India's economy was half of what it is today.
The "2010-2019" inductions were paid for around the Year 2000-2005 when India's nominal GDP was around 500 Billion$, 1/6th of what it is today.

 

[Love Charger]

So all them cannot happen simultaneously?
Between 2010-2019 the Indian Navy didn induct 1 Carrier, 3 Destroyers, 10 Frigates and 5 Submarines?
Between 2020-2029 the Indian Navy is not inducting1 Carrier, 4 Destroyers, 11 Frigates and atleast 6 Submarines?
And all these were funded/paid for when India's economy was half of what it is today.
The "2010-2019" inductions were paid for around the Year 2000-2005 when India's nominal GDP was around 500 Billion$, 1/6th of what it is today.

I don't no nuffin sir , merhaba if it happens simultaneously

 

[rohit b3]

I don't no nuffin sir , merhaba if it happens simultaneously

It will. Not immediately , but as per current/past trends we will see a New Carrier along with its entire CBG every decade. Expect Vishal, project 18 , SSNs, project 17B, etc between 2030 to 2040. And our 5 Trillion$ economy in 2030 will support that ,and more.

 

[Super falcon]

Indian government right now wishes to divert funds to built more frigates , nuke submarines and missile boats.
Ins vishal will also come someday but that is decades away from now

Are they nuclear powered sub or nuclear powered ballistic missile subs

 

[Love Charger]

Are they nuclear powered sub or nuclear powered ballistic missile subs

Ssbn. They launch k4 slbm

 

[Super Flanker]

Are they nuclear powered sub or nuclear powered ballistic missile subs

Indian government is planning on building both SSNs and SSBNs at the same time. Read about Project 75 "Alpha and S2, S3, S4 etc class submarines. SSNs are attack submarines & SSBNs are ballistic missile Submarines.

 

[Eagle Eye]

IN needs nuke carrier,for that nxt gen boomer[reactor], carrier should be with electro M launcher.TEDBF also come in. Maybe 2035-2040. Any carrier without hawkeye E2 like awacs is big destroyer. Heli awacs cannot cover large area.Also station is HR lower

 

[Blademaster]

Indian government right now wishes to divert funds to built more frigates , nuke submarines and missile boats.
Ins vishal will also come someday but that is decades away from now

We have to get the low hanging fruits first.

 

[johnj]

IN needs nuke carrier,for that nxt gen boomer[reactor], carrier should be with electro M launcher.TEDBF also come in. Maybe 2035-2040. Any carrier without hawkeye E2 like awacs is big destroyer. Heli awacs cannot cover large area.Also station is HR lower

In 2045~2060 time line for nuke carrier. The main purpose of E2 is to track low flying objects, and Heli awacs can also do the job, no need to cover a large area, but area surrounding to CBG.

 

[Eagle Eye]

Heli awacs can also do the job, no need to cover a large area, but area surrounding to CBG.

i mean directing jets in combat ,how usefull...heli awacs?

 

[johnj]

i mean directing jets in combat ,how usefull...heli awacs?

Not so good, very bad. For directing jets in combat, need a powerful radar[400~650+ km range], more work stations and a powerful big aircraft. There is difference b/w aew & awacs. IAF phalcons are awacs & netra are aew. Main function of these systems is to track low flying aircrafts.
If you consider fcr of P15/P17b, mfstar, mfstar can only detect sea skimming missile less than 25km, helio aew help to track these missile 50km/100km away.

 

[Sarjen]

It will. Not immediately , but as per current/past trends we will see a New Carrier along with its entire CBG every decade. Expect Vishal, project 18 , SSNs, project 17B, etc between 2030 to 2040. And our 5 Trillion$ economy in 2030 will support that ,and more.

That's a Sad timeline given our threat... if modi's priority is 5 Trillion GDP infront of the threats from China/Pakistan,,, then this country is doomed

 

[Indx TechStyle]

That's a Sad timeline given our threat... if modi's priority is 5 Trillion GDP infront of the threats from China/Pakistan,,, then this country is doomed

Both of the threats are overrated.
Pakistan is not a threat and China has to more loose. China won't start a direct war at least and Pak can't do anything beyond its borders, even barely can defend an attack.

 

[johnj]

Both of the threats are overrated.
Pakistan is not a threat and China has to more loose. China won't start a direct war at least and Pak can't do anything beyond its borders, even barely can defend an attack.

Its not about China or Pak, but US. What if Pak mobilise troops to border, from where India going to buy smart ammunitions ? Currently China have nothing to gain from Indo-pak war, they focus more on lac, cpec etc.
What US current gov want from pak & ind ? just support against russia or more ?

 

[Super falcon]

Indian government is planning on building both SSNs and SSBNs at the same time. Read about Project 75 "Alpha and S2, S3, S4 etc class submarines. SSNs are attack submarines & SSBNs are ballistic missile Submarines.

Which foreign submarines has a better prospect to be chosen by indian navies requirments in both categories sub

For ssbn I think barracuda has a better chance correct me if I'm wrong