INS Vikrant Aircraft Carrier (IAC)

[Kunal Biswas]

Vikrant is now one step closer to completion. It can be seen that MF-STAR radars are installed and works on installing Selex RAN-40L is progressing (it seems India already received the radar from Finmeccanica subsidiary). CSL hopes to begin builder's sea trials by mid 2017, and deliver the carrier by early 2018.

 

[shiphone]

Interesting image on GE...all three Indian Carrier in one 'shot'...lol
oh,and the LPD as well, or I shold say the tonnage top four combat warships in one.

 

[wuzetian]

Interesting image on GE...all three Indian Carrier in one 'shot'...lol
oh,and the LPD as well, or I shold say the tonnage top four combat warships in one.

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Cochin port is the hub of Indian aircraft carriers lining up to be repaired.

 

[PatriotNRI]

ACC is inherently expensive to build. Except during the WW2 when the US built Intrepid and its sister ships at breakneck speed in a couple of years. If I am not mistaken these giants easily cost between 7 billion to 12 billion dollars depending upon " gadgets" that get incorporated beyond standard designs. I think most planners deliberately take their time to allow immature technology to become mature and reliable. Couple of thoughts on some techs. The magnetic propulsion- Rail gun made by General Atomics just got incorporated on a newer destroyer. Several months ago a navy admiral had quoted," we will take it as soon as they resolve the barrel issue". Weapons like this ( close to 5000 MPH velocity, hitting targets 100 miles far, cheap ammo and not significant maintenance) take a long time to mature. India is over dependant on many countries for crucial technology. I think this GOV is vigorously challenging and forcing the slowpokes in getting their act together. If they do not shape up, they will be WALKING the PLANK!

 

[archie]

Where is the LPD in the pic.. !!?? Lovlely treat for tech watchers...

 

[Filtercoffee]

I havnt heard about an lpd being built in secret at csl. I wonder how that lpd looks. Also that is R22.

 

[captscooby81]

INS Vikrant Scale model in Display at Aeroindia 2017 , The aircraft models on the deck looks like Mig 29 and Tejas Naval

 

[Prashant12]

India inks defence deals worth over $2 billion

NEW DELHI: India and Israel on Thursday inked mega defence deals worth over $2 billion for advanced surface-to-air missile (SAM) systems, which are designed to destroy hostile aircraft, missiles and drones at a range of 70-km, to further tighten the bilateral strategic partnership ahead of PM Narendra Modi's impending visit to Tel Aviv in July.

Defence sources said the major deal was for the joint project between the Defence Research and Development Organization (DRDO) and Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) for the Barak-8 medium-range SAM systems to initially include one regiment of 16 launchers and 560 missiles for the Indian Army.

The second deal to be inked was for a similar SAM system to be fitted on board the 40,000-tonne indigenous aircraft carrier INS Vikrant being built at the Cochin Shipyard.

As was earlier reported by TOI, the Modi-led Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) in February had cleared the MR-SAM project for the Army at an overall cost of Rs 16,830 crore, which will now include a first instalment of Rs 1,500 crore.

This project follows the two similar DRDO-IAI programmes already underway for the next-generation SAMs for Indian warships at an initial cost of Rs 2,606 crore and nine air defence squadrons for the IAF for Rs 10,076 crore.

These Barak-8 systems, with their MF-STARs (multi-function surveillance and threat alert radars) as well as weapon control systems with data links, can detect and track hostile aerial threats at a range of 100-km and destroy them at 70-km. Consequently, they will help in plugging the existing holes in India's air defence coverage.

But questions have been raised about these SAM systems, which are to be produced in bulk by defence PSU Bharat Dynamics, both in terms of their exorbitant costs as well as long delays in their delivery schedules.

The naval SAM project, for instance, was sanctioned by the CCS in December 2005, while the IAF one for nine squadrons was cleared in February 2009. As per the latest revised timeline, the naval project's completion date is now slated for December 2017 instead of the original May 2011 deadline.

The naval SAM system, tested for the first time in November 2014, meanwhile, has been fitted on the three new Kolkata-class destroyers. Each new SAM system is projected to cost around Rs 1,200 crore for the 12 under-construction warships in Indian shipyards, including NS Vikrant, four guided-missile destroyers and seven stealth frigates.

Though the expansive bilateral defence ties are kept largely under wraps due to international and domestic political sensitivities, Israel is among the top three defence suppliers to India. Having already inked deals and projects worth around $10 billion over the last 15 years, Israel has bagged seven Indian arms contracts in the last two years.
There are also several more big-ticket deals in the pipeline. These include two more Israeli Phalcon AWACS (airborne warning and control systems), which are to be mounted on Russian IL-76 military aircraft, and four more Aerostat radars at a cost upwards of $1.5 billion.

Moreover, India is set to soon acquire 10 Heron-TP armed drones for around $400 million. While the Indian armed forces have inducted over 100 Israeli unmanned aerial vehicles, which include the surveillance Searcher and Heron as well as the kamikaze Harop drones, this will be the first time it will acquire missile-armed drones capable of undertaking bombing missions like fighter jets.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...narendra-modis-visit/articleshow/58055478.cms

 

[captscooby81]

The chinese are getting ready to launch their indigenous AC PLAN Type 001A . we are really slow in completing the IAC-1 hope MoD puts some urgency on the completion of IAC-1... Hope we float it sooner as possible with the deck filled up full ..

 

[captscooby81]

China has just given an very good topic for our left liberal media to jump on and debate and discuss now our commie s will cry why we need to spend so much on these floating cities when we have so much poverty in the country with failed drought and slowing economy ..

India should focus more on economic development: Chinese media

BEIJING: India should focus less on speeding up the process of building aircraft carriers to contain China in the Indian Ocean and more on its economic development, Chinese official media said on Monday.

"New Delhi is perhaps too impatient to develop an aircraft carrier. The country is still in its initial stage of industrialisation, and there will be many technical obstacles that stand in the way of a build-up of aircraft carriers," an article in the state-run Global Times said.

"In the past few decades, India and China have taken different paths in terms of aircraft carriers, but the different results achieved by the two countries point to the underlying importance of economic development," it said.

"New Delhi should perhaps be less eager to speed up the process of building aircraft carriers in order to counter China's growing sway in the Indian Ocean, and focus more on its economy," it said.

China yesterday celebrated 68th anniversary of the establishment of its navy amid massive expansion of its fleet.

A fleet of three Chinese naval ships left Shanghai in the morning for a friendly visit to more than 20 countries in Asia, Europe and Africa.

"With the expansion of foreign trade, as well as China's 'One Belt and One Road' initiative, the Chinese navy has taken on a new mission, which is to protect the country's overseas interests," a report in the same daily said.

As a consequence, China's military strategy for the navy has changed and it must increase its presence overseas to meet the new requirements, military expert Song Zhongping said.

As a signature achievement of the navy, the Liaoning aircraft carrier built from an empty hull of former Soviet ship has finished its blue sea training, he said.

While the Chinese navy flexed muscle with massive expansion of overseas with new "logistic" based in Gwadar in Pakistan and Djibouti in the Indian Ocean, the Chinese official media sought to project India deploying aircraft carriers decades ahead of China in a negative light.

"As the world's second-largest economy, China is now capable of building a strong navy to safeguard the security of strategic maritime channels. China's construction of its first aircraft carrier is a result of economic development," an article in the Global Times said.

"The country would have finished work on it several years ago if Beijing had simply wanted to engage in an arms race to have more influence in the Asia-Pacific and Indian Ocean regions," the article said in defence of China deploying its first aircraft carrier in 1912.

"India itself could be taken as a negative example for a build-up of aircraft carriers," it said.

Unlike China, India operated the aircraft carrier since 1961.

INS Vikrant, which was purchased as an incomplete carrier in 1957, played a key role in enforcing the naval blockade of the East Pakistan in 1971 before it was decommissioned in 1997.

It was succeeded by INS Vikramaditya, a modified version of Russian ship Admiral Gorshikov, which became operational in 2013.

The second INS Vikrant being built in Cochin Shipyard is expected to be ready by 2018.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

What this article has to do with this thread besides just some Chinese mouth piece trying to play-down India`s power projection and its experience with due topic ..

These are cheap 50cent articles, Best ignore ..

 

[Thrishul]

Well to ensure economic dominance in the IOR, we need Naval dominance.
That's what Rome did against Carthage.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

INS Vikrant at Dry dock ..

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You have other thread to discuses such topics ..

Keep this thread till IAC-1 development and news ..

Well to ensure economic dominance in the IOR, we need Naval dominance.
That's what Rome did against Carthage.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

China has just given an very good topic for our left liberal media to jump on and debate and discuss now our commie s will cry why we need to spend so much on these floating cities when we have so much poverty in the country with failed drought and slowing economy ..

India should focus more on economic development: Chinese media

BEIJING: India should focus less on speeding up the process of building aircraft carriers to contain China in the Indian Ocean and more on its economic development, Chinese official media said on Monday.

"New Delhi is perhaps too impatient to develop an aircraft carrier. The country is still in its initial stage of industrialisation, and there will be many technical obstacles that stand in the way of a build-up of aircraft carriers," an article in the state-run Global Times said.

"In the past few decades, India and China have taken different paths in terms of aircraft carriers, but the different results achieved by the two countries point to the underlying importance of economic development," it said.

"New Delhi should perhaps be less eager to speed up the process of building aircraft carriers in order to counter China's growing sway in the Indian Ocean, and focus more on its economy," it said.

China yesterday celebrated 68th anniversary of the establishment of its navy amid massive expansion of its fleet.

A fleet of three Chinese naval ships left Shanghai in the morning for a friendly visit to more than 20 countries in Asia, Europe and Africa.

"With the expansion of foreign trade, as well as China's 'One Belt and One Road' initiative, the Chinese navy has taken on a new mission, which is to protect the country's overseas interests," a report in the same daily said.

As a consequence, China's military strategy for the navy has changed and it must increase its presence overseas to meet the new requirements, military expert Song Zhongping said.

As a signature achievement of the navy, the Liaoning aircraft carrier built from an empty hull of former Soviet ship has finished its blue sea training, he said.

While the Chinese navy flexed muscle with massive expansion of overseas with new "logistic" based in Gwadar in Pakistan and Djibouti in the Indian Ocean, the Chinese official media sought to project India deploying aircraft carriers decades ahead of China in a negative light.

"As the world's second-largest economy, China is now capable of building a strong navy to safeguard the security of strategic maritime channels. China's construction of its first aircraft carrier is a result of economic development," an article in the Global Times said.

"The country would have finished work on it several years ago if Beijing had simply wanted to engage in an arms race to have more influence in the Asia-Pacific and Indian Ocean regions," the article said in defence of China deploying its first aircraft carrier in 1912.

"India itself could be taken as a negative example for a build-up of aircraft carriers," it said.

Unlike China, India operated the aircraft carrier since 1961.

INS Vikrant, which was purchased as an incomplete carrier in 1957, played a key role in enforcing the naval blockade of the East Pakistan in 1971 before it was decommissioned in 1997.

It was succeeded by INS Vikramaditya, a modified version of Russian ship Admiral Gorshikov, which became operational in 2013.

The second INS Vikrant being built in Cochin Shipyard is expected to be ready by 2018.

Seriously, do they know that India's Military budget us just one of lowest in percentage even among developing countries & still shrinking in percentage?
It is increasing in numbers because our economy is expanding.

 

[indiandefencefan]

Seriously, do they know that India's Military budget us just one of lowest in percentage even among developing countries & still shrinking in percentage?
It is increasing in numbers because our economy is expanding.

This because of the contradiction between our GDP and public spending.
While the GDP expands and incomes grow, not many people pay income tax so the the government does not get much positive benefit in terms of budgeting from this GDP increase.

GST is supposed to alleviate some of this by shifting the tax burden on consumers from income (which people don't pay) to goods and services (which people can't avoid paying).

PS: Sorry for the out of topic post.

 

[Gaurav Ranwa]

What is the status of IAC 1 .

It has been a long time since any update came.

 

[smestarz]

LPD is in the middle of the picture, between the two carriers, aligned vertically. as you see it has a big deck mostly for VTOL landing (helicopters) so the assumption is that it is a LPD

Where is the LPD in the pic.. !!?? Lovlely treat for tech watchers...

 

[smestarz]

Not really out of topic, it is in a way relevant as to why developments are possible but we are unable to develop

This because of the contradiction between our GDP and public spending.
While the GDP expands and incomes grow, not many people pay income tax so the the government does not get much positive benefit in terms of budgeting from this GDP increase.

GST is supposed to alleviate some of this by shifting the tax burden on consumers from income (which people don't pay) to goods and services (which people can't avoid paying).

PS: Sorry for the out of topic post.

 

[republic_roi97]

The chinese are getting ready to launch their indigenous AC PLAN Type 001A . we are really slow in completing the IAC-1 hope MoD puts some urgency on the completion of IAC-1... Hope we float it sooner as possible with the deck filled up full ..View attachment 15190 View attachment 15191 View attachment 15192

Heck, PRC is getting better and better day after day at CTRL+C and CTRL+V, they just copied Kuznetsov class carrier, while Russians are just seeing them taking over. I saw a YouTube video where a Russian engineer was claiming that copying something this big and building from scratch isn't possible, I guess later that day some databases with blueprints and "supposed-to-be-secret" stuff related to Russian engineered ships might have been hacked. And here we are with fresh out of the Xerox Machine "Aircraft Carrier(s)".

While our approach is better in the long run and much more ethical, GOI really need to step things up with IAC-1, might as well lay a keel for another Vikrant-class Ship while we are waiting for INS Vishal to realize.

 

[shiphone]

some much-loved 'imagery updates' ...lol...source: CD forum....

photo taken in Dec 2016

newer one in Mar 2017