INS Vikrant Aircraft Carrier (IAC)

[Kunal Biswas]

 

[Crusader53]

Can't wait to see the real thing..........


BTW I was involved in the naming of the USS Gerald R. Ford. Can't wait to see it either.

 

[ace009]

Naming of carrier? Wow - or was it the president that you named? LOL - then double wow!

 

[Crusader53]

Naming of carrier? Wow - or was it the president that you named? LOL - then double wow!

I was involved in the Campaign to name the first CVN-21 for US President Gearld R. Ford. Which, I had the pleasure of meeting on several occasions. (i.e. before he death)



Clearly, your lack of respect for others. Is obvious for everyone to see.....

 

[Armand2REP]

I was involved in the Campaign to name the first CVN-21 for US President Gearld R. Ford. Which, I had the pleasure of meeting on several occasions. (i.e. before he death)

What ever happened to naming them after the most successful ships in USN history? Names like Yorktown, Hornet, Constitution, Constellation, and soon to be Enterprise will be lost with the replacement of a bunch of do nothing presidents like Bush, Ford and Truman. It is going to be a sad day when Enterprise gets decommed with no replacement named after her and you can know you helped play a part in that trend.

Clearly, your lack of respect for others. Is obvious for everyone to see....

What you are doing deserves respect? You should be campaigning to get them named after decorated ships of the USN. You are losing your history.

 

[Crusader53]

What ever happened to naming them after the most successful ships in USN history? Names like Yorktown, Hornet, Constitution, Constellation, and soon to be Enterprise will be lost with the replacement of a bunch of do nothing presidents like Bush, Ford and Truman. It is going to be a sad day when Enterprise gets decommed with no replacement named after her and you can know you helped play a part in that trend.

Clearly, you know nothing of US Presidents. As a matter of fact President Ford was highly respected in both Political Parties and by the vasy Majority of Americans. As for ship names the USN has far fewer ships that it did just 20-30 years ago. In short far more names than ships. Though several you meantioned have been named after Aegis Cruisers.

What you are doing deserves respect? You should be campaigning to get them named after decorated ships of the USN. You are losing your history.

With all do respect Gerald R. Ford is part of American History. He was a Star Foot Ball Player for the Unverisity of Michigan, a Decorated WWII Naval Veteran, US Congressman, US Vice president, and finally US President. Further, he lead the US through some very difficult times. Respectfully, you don't understand what you are saying............

 

[gogbot]

With all do respect Gerald R. Ford is part of American History. He was a Star Foot Ball Player for the Unverisity of Michigan, a Decorated WWII Naval Veteran, US Congressman, US Vice president, and finally US President. Further, he lead the US through some very difficult times. Respectfully, you don't understand what you are saying............

Well It still stands , There may not be another Ship that will carry on the name Enterprise(Arguably the most famous name for a ship).

Instead , The last few ships have been ,

USS Dwight D. Eisenhower
(CVN 69) 18 Oct 1977 /

USS Carl Vinson
(CVN 70) 13 Mar 1982 /

USS Theodore Roosevelt
(CVN 71) 25 Oct 1986 /

USS Abraham Lincoln
(CVN 72) 11 Nov 1989 /

USS George Washington
(CVN 73) 4 July 1992 /

USS John C. Stennis
(CVN 74) 9 Dec 1995 /

USS Harry S. Truman
(CVN 75) 25 July 1998 /

USS Ronald Reagan
(CVN 76) 12 July 2003 /

USS George H.W. Bush
(CVN 77)

There was a very good reason there never named ships after people , If they were sunk it was taken that it would reflect badly on the leaders they borrowed their names from
That's why we had names like Bismark and Not Adolf something something.

I honestly can't see why the entire new range of US carriers will be known as the Gerald R. Ford Class.

 

[p2prada]

Well It still stands , There may not be another Ship that will carry on the name Enterprise(Arguably the most famous name for a ship).

Instead , The last few ships have been ,



There was a very good reason there never named ships after people , If they were sunk it was taken that it would reflect badly on the leaders they borrowed their names from
That's why we had names like Bismark and Not Adolf something something.

I honestly can't see why the entire new range of US carriers will be known as the Gerald R. Ford Class.

The same reason why The Nimitz Class Carrier was named after the Admiral.

Subsequent ships in the Ford Class will be named after other presidents too.

 

[Armand2REP]

Clearly, you know nothing of US Presidents. As a matter of fact President Ford was highly respected in both Political Parties and by the vasy Majority of Americans. As for ship names the USN has far fewer ships that it did just 20-30 years ago. In short far more names than ships. Though several you meantioned have been named after Aegis Cruisers.

Only Tico named there was Yorktown and it is decommissioned. President Ford was NOT one of America's greatest presidents.

With all do respect Gerald R. Ford is part of American History. He was a Star Foot Ball Player for the Unverisity of Michigan, a Decorated WWII Naval Veteran, US Congressman, US Vice president, and finally US President. Further, he lead the US through some very difficult times. Respectfully, you don't understand what you are saying............

Like that name means more than any of the historical names of USN ships that won battle stars across the Pacific with names stretching back defeating British warships? Those names are vastly more important to naval history than Gerald R. Ford.

 

[civfanatic]

They should name one of their warships the Bonhomme Richard. It was America's first true fighting ship.

 

[gogbot]

The same reason why The Nimitz Class Carrier was named after the Admiral.

Subsequent ships in the Ford Class will be named after other presidents too.

That's the thing p2p , at least the Nimitz class was named after an admiral.

But they skipped on both traditional names and even Names of commanders . An named the first ship of its kind after a president.

After naming the last 9 carriers after presidents , they could have gone back and done it old school and named at least the first carrier of the class , with traditional name.

 

[Crusader53]

Only Tico named there was Yorktown and it is decommissioned. President Ford was NOT one of America's greatest presidents.

I believe its up to Americans to decide who is a "Great American President".

Like that name means more than any of the historical names of USN ships that won battle stars across the Pacific with names stretching back defeating British warships? Those names are vastly more important to naval history than Gerald R. Ford.

Many of those Historical Names will be used in the future and nobody in the US Navy, US Government, or General Public have said otherwise.

 

[Crusader53]

They should name one of their warships the Bonhomme Richard. It was America's first true fighting ship.

An Amphibious Carrier is already named after the Bonhomme Richard...........



USS Bonhommee Richard LHD-6

http://www.public.navy.mil/surfor/lhd6/Pages/default.aspx

 

[Crusader53]

It is going to be a sad day when Enterprise gets decommed with no replacement named after her and you can know you helped play a part in that trend.


Sorry, you really don't know what you are talking about. It's not official (yet) but it's very likely the second CVN-21 (CVN-79) will be named USS Enterprise. Which, is hardly new.......

 

[nrj]

This thread belongs to Indian Navy's IAC.

It'll better if discussions are kept related to that only.

Discuss US ships in US Def board ...

 

[civfanatic]

An Amphibious Carrier is already named after the Bonhomme Richard...........



USS Bonhommee Richard LHD-6

http://www.public.navy.mil/surfor/lhd6/Pages/default.aspx

Oh, I had no idea. Thanks for the info.

It's good that they preserved the name of that legendary ship.

 

[Armand2REP]

So, getting back to IAC... is there a picture? Its launch was delayed last year because a truck accident damaged some generators and the gearbox don't work.

http://www.stratpost.com/indian-carrier-launchdelayed-by-accident

 

[Neil]

Pipavav Shipyard Limited should construct second aircraft carrier for India

Pipavav Shipyard Limited (PSL) a prominent private-sector shipyard in India, located in Pipavav, in southern Gujarat coast and also one of the largest Shipyards in India spread over almost 500 acres, with massive dry docks of over 680 meters length and 62 meters might be birth place for India's next Indigenous Aircraft Carrier (IAC II).

If Sources are to be believed Cochin Shipyard Limited (CSL) which is constructing Vikrant class carriers (IAC I) which is a Conventional-powered STOBAR carrier with displacement of 40,000 tons ,can only build aircraft carriers with displacement up to 40,000 tons only due to its limited size of the dry docks .
While IAC-II which is still on the drawing board will have higher displacement of 65,000 tons and will utilize steam catapults, which will also be able to accommodate more aircrafts and larger aircrafts (AEW aircraft) order for which is expected to be placed by mid or end of 2011, will require bigger dry docks then the current dry docks which CSL have.

Recently Defence minister A.K Anthony had said that from 2011 onwards PSU will have to compete with Private ship builders to meet growing needs of Indian navy and coastguards.

Pipavav Shipyard Limited is also working on a larger Dry dock which is over 700 meters long and 65 meters wide when completed in 2012 it will be second largest dry dock in the world so PSL will be a logical choice to construct IAC-II for Indian navy.

Indian Navy have not officially confirmed if it will be going for a 65,000 tons IAC-II aircraft carrier or will stick with another 40,000 tons very similar to the first carrier ,but Navy's effort to buy four carrier-based fixed airborne early warning and control aircraft does suggests that IAC-II might be 65,000 tons aircraft carrier .

Request for information (RFI) to provide fixed-wing early warning platform has been issued. But source have confirmed it is not toping Navy's priority list. Navy has also send RFI to acquire new line of 4.5 generation fighter jet for the second carrier which has been responded by same vendors currently in the race to provide 126 jets to Indian air force under MMRCA contract. Experts believe that a CARTOBAR based IAC-II aircraft carrier will enable Navy to operate in future fifth generation aircrafts like N-AMCA or N-FGFA ,since Aircraft carrier generally have service life 40 to 50 years .


http://idrw.org/?p=1215

 

[Koovie]

If there will be a 65000 t carrier, will it be a supercarrier size ship`??

 

[bengalraider]

If there will be a 65000 t carrier, will it be a supercarrier size ship`??

If you go by the wiki translation a super carrier is one that displaces more than 70,000 long tonnes, however i have no reason to believe that is an official term.
It will not be the size of say a Nimitz but it will easily match the standard displacement of a kitty hawk, forrestal or JFK class carrier.while being much larger than the charles de gaulle and other carriers in service today.