INS Vikrant Aircraft Carrier (IAC)

[maximus777]

All hail Uncle Sam?

F-18 Super Hornet managed to exceed Indian Navy's requirements for MRCBF program.

Spoiler: tweet

MRFA to Rafale and MRCBF to F-18? Bye bye commonality and common sense?

UN airforce rocks!

 

[flanker99]

All hail Uncle Sam?

F-18 Super Hornet managed to exceed Indian Navy's requirements for MRCBF program.

Spoiler: tweet

MRFA to Rafale and MRCBF to F-18? Bye bye commonality and common sense?

Caatsa waiver mila hai...ab aiga to hornet hi

 

[kamaal]

These news are good for the deal, the dassault will think about price. Commonality will help them reduce the cost, they must go all out. If they think they can milk us, they are wrong here. Now Boeing knows once you enter in business with India, you can earn as much as you can.

 

[MonaLazy]

Caatsa waiver mila hai...ab aiga to hornet hi

Why not more P8Is (with more kit after BECA, LEMOA & COMCASA), AH-64s, Chinooks, C-5, C-130 etc etc. US has a different line up we are interested in.

These news are good for the deal, the dassault will think about price. Commonality will help them reduce the cost, they must go all out. If they think they can milk us, they are wrong here. Now Boeing knows once you enter in business with India, you can earn as much as you can.

I am hoping what you are hoping - that these are just pressure tactics to squeeze a better Rafale M deal.

 

[The Shrike]

All hail Uncle Sam?

F-18 Super Hornet managed to exceed Indian Navy's requirements for MRCBF program.

Spoiler: tweet

MRFA to Rafale and MRCBF to F-18? Bye bye commonality and common sense?

Like it of not the US has 10-11 aircraft super carriers in its force, and the Super Hornet makes up most of the carrier fighter fleet - that means they have 10-20x the number of flight hours, number of people that designed and operated this fighter compared to a country with a single small carrier. We have already made that mistake once with the Russians (worse we bought a completely un prove fighter). And french have there share of lemons like NH-90 and Tiger attack helicopters (these are euro projects). So I won't be surprised if the SH is actually a much better package overall compared to the Rafael, which may not be apparent when looking at just Wikimedia specifications.

 

[Chinmoy]

All hail Uncle Sam?

F-18 Super Hornet managed to exceed Indian Navy's requirements for MRCBF program.

Spoiler: tweet

MRFA to Rafale and MRCBF to F-18? Bye bye commonality and common sense?

Wow.... Thats another level of RR.

It exceeded the expectations. Does it mean we had done the deal?

Even if F/A-18 gets selected, what's wrong in it from this cribbing? It is the best available carrier based fighter as of now.

 

[flanker99]

 

[abingdonboy]

All hail Uncle Sam?

F-18 Super Hornet managed to exceed Indian Navy's requirements for MRCBF program.

Spoiler: tweet

MRFA to Rafale and MRCBF to F-18? Bye bye commonality and common sense?

Literally Boeing sales pitch. Funny how much of the defence media is captured by US MIC talking points meanwhile French are going about their business quietly and actually getting things done in india.

the standard is the standard, you don’t actually get points for exceeding it under Indian procurement methodology (remember Parrikar wanted to implement T1/T2 bias). So if both meet the requirements (NSQR) both will be down selected and it will be purely up to cost (L1/L2).

Given that Boeing will always have to price in $3-5bn in additional fixed costs that Dassualt has already amortised in india (ISE, training, basing, infrastructure, support etc etc) it’s hard to see how Boeing wins on L1 especially as we already know the export price is quite eye watering for the SH (RAAF) and that’s without carrier integration costs

 

[Cheran]

IAC Vikrant at 5th round of sea trials

 

[kamaal]

I say land LCA Navy on IACs deck before the Mig 29s. That'll be truly making statement with indigenous technology.

 

[Asmaka Mahajanapada]

Any whereabouts of the INS Vikramaditya? Haven't heard anything about it recently

 

[flanker99]

Any whereabouts of the INS Vikramaditya? Haven't heard anything about it recently

sat images visibility is bad but she was not in her usual pier in karwar today

 

[SUPERPOWER]

Hindustan times taking it to next Level.

 

[Aditya Ballal]

 

[Bleh]

Hindustan times taking it to next Level.

For a moment i thought it Tejas 🥲

 

[Delta Squad]

For a moment i thought it Tejas 🥲

Still better. I remember having an argument with one in the comment section of this video who thought it was Ghatak with some invisible technology.... And was agressively defending his claim.

 

[flanker99]

Anyone saved the pic..btw it was a f18 taking off from sbtf

 

[Gessler]

Which Experts? Praveen Sawhney type?

Ypu seriously believe that this aircraft worth millions of dollars was lifted by a crane and put on the deck?

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Yes, IN did 4 extensive sea trials of an aircraft carrier without testing whether an aircraft can land and take-off from the carrier. Totally believable.

this line looks directly copied from some Chinese or Pakistani troll

Do you seriously think they would conduct traps or takeoffs from Vikrant and not tell anybody?

The maiden trap on a carrier is a landmark event, no less than commissioning itself. When the fixed wing flight ops do happen, it's going to be a huge event.

It might even happen after the ship is commissioned, no rule that says otherwise. Commissioning only means the ship itself is ready. The aviation complex can be treated as a separate system with its own operational certification.

The ship itself may be commissioned next month - but its going to be YEARS before its fully operational.

> No fighter flight trials yet, with any payload config
> No flight trials under different Sea States & weather conditions
> MFSTAR radar not even installed yet
> Definitive aviation complex for Vikrant is NOT Mig-29K - it will be MRCBF which will likely arrive only by 2025 if ordered this year, and maybe operational by 2026-27. That's when we can say Vikrant carrier air wing is fully operational. Until then everything is stop-gap.

 

[Aditya Ballal]

 

[Bleh]

With combat weight... But how much, I see two drop-tanks (volume?)

Anyone knows?