INS Vikrant Aircraft Carrier (IAC)

[Emperor Kalki]

How about vaikki (means "late")

You a mallu?

 

[Tactical Doge]

You a mallu?

Yes bro
You?

 

[Emperor Kalki]

Yes bro
You?

Pinnalla

 

[archie]

Maybe Navy is delaying it as Air force needs all the money it can get for the next few Years.. Mission 44($$)

- If we lose Aircover we lose the Body of the Land.
- If we Lack A/C We only Loose Power projection that to temporarily (Till its Built)

 

[ARVION]

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[operatorgrumby]

America what kind of sorcery is this !!!!

 

[Akula]

America what kind of sorcery is this !!!!

Specially designed for Middle east missions.

 

[BangaliBabu]

Specially designed for Middle east missions.

it's fan art nothing more.

 

[Akula]

it's fan art nothing more.

Sarcasm samajhiye

 

[arnabmit]

America what kind of sorcery is this !!!!

S.H.I.E.L.D. Helicarier Technology Demonstrator

 

[WolfPack86]

India’s first indigenous aircraft carrier INS Vikrant begins trial, know what is special
India’s first indigenous aircraft carrier INS Vikrant is expected to hit the sea soon. According to Navy sources, the INS Vikrant’s harbor trials have been completed and the basin trials are likely to begin in September. After the basin trial, INS Vikrant’s Sea Trial will begin. Vikrant is expected to join the Navy by 2023. Construction of the 262 meter long INS Vikrant started in February 2009 at the Cochin Shipyard. It can have 26 fighter aircraft and 10 helicopters. The Navy has currently selected the MiG-29K for this career. Apart from this, Ka-31, Westland Sea King and indigenous advanced light helicopter Dhruv can also be deployed on this carrier. According to sources, INS Vikrant’s Harbor Trials have been completed but Basin Trials are being delayed due to Kovid-19. In the basin trials, all the systems fitted in the ship are final tested to check whether it can be landed at sea. These tests have the presence of manufacturers of systems and equipment. Due to Kovid, manufacturers are facing difficulties in this test. The Indian Navy wants to place INS Vikrant in Visakhapatnam on the eastern seaboard. The aircraft carrier INS Vikramaditya, purchased from Russia, is in Karwar on the western coast. India has long wanted to protect the sea with three carrier battle groups. The Carrier Battle Group consists of a fleet of aircraft warriors, helicopters and submarines along with aircraft carriers. The Indian Navy wants to have one carrier battle group each in the East and West for the protection of long maritime boundary and business interests. An additional battle group will be available for repair and upgrade.

India’s first indigenous aircraft carrier INS Vikrant begins trial, know what is special – Indian Defence Research Wing

idrw.org

 

[Thunderbolter]

India’s first indigenous aircraft carrier INS Vikrant begins trial, know what is special
India’s first indigenous aircraft carrier INS Vikrant is expected to hit the sea soon. According to Navy sources, the INS Vikrant’s harbor trials have been completed and the basin trials are likely to begin in September. After the basin trial, INS Vikrant’s Sea Trial will begin. Vikrant is expected to join the Navy by 2023. Construction of the 262 meter long INS Vikrant started in February 2009 at the Cochin Shipyard. It can have 26 fighter aircraft and 10 helicopters. The Navy has currently selected the MiG-29K for this career. Apart from this, Ka-31, Westland Sea King and indigenous advanced light helicopter Dhruv can also be deployed on this carrier. According to sources, INS Vikrant’s Harbor Trials have been completed but Basin Trials are being delayed due to Kovid-19. In the basin trials, all the systems fitted in the ship are final tested to check whether it can be landed at sea. These tests have the presence of manufacturers of systems and equipment. Due to Kovid, manufacturers are facing difficulties in this test. The Indian Navy wants to place INS Vikrant in Visakhapatnam on the eastern seaboard. The aircraft carrier INS Vikramaditya, purchased from Russia, is in Karwar on the western coast. India has long wanted to protect the sea with three carrier battle groups. The Carrier Battle Group consists of a fleet of aircraft warriors, helicopters and submarines along with aircraft carriers. The Indian Navy wants to have one carrier battle group each in the East and West for the protection of long maritime boundary and business interests. An additional battle group will be available for repair and upgrade.

India’s first indigenous aircraft carrier INS Vikrant begins trial, know what is special – Indian Defence Research Wing

idrw.org

As the pandemic has every other person, slightly depressed; I wonder if the Directorate of Naval Design have plans on making arrangements for another Vikrant 2 (IAC 1 - class design) class aircraft carrier, maybe Viraat 2 to be built on grounds of having east
and west coast battle groups present while one is in refit. It is a better option for repair and maintenance, we then have a stress free balanced navy, instead of having 2 - 40 thousand tonne class carriers and a 65 thousand tonne carrier, which will come after a long wait; does not seem balanced to my choice of having 3 - 40 thousand tonne carries, making way for the DND to focus leisurely on the next class i.e. the 65 + thousand tonne class carrier design.

 

[tarunraju]

Harbour trials completed.


Apparently GoI is going to run a brisk tender for 54 naval MRCA, and Boeing fancies another shot for the Super Hornet. Since these are just 3 sqns, the tender will be fly-away. At least it gives us a chance to pick up American weapon systems such as AAMRAM. If the Super Hornet loses, it will only be because it will come with dumb American combat use approval riders.

Boeing just conducted its own ski-jump tests for USN Super Hornets in anticipation of the Indian tender.

 

[Aniruddha Mulay]

Harbour trials completed.


Apparently GoI is going to run a brisk tender for 54 naval MRCA, and Boeing fancies another shot for the Super Hornet. Since these are just 3 sqns, the tender will be fly-away. At least it gives us a chance to pick up American weapon systems such as AAMRAM. If the Super Hornet loses, it will only be because it will come with dumb American combat use approval riders.

Boeing just conducted its own ski-jump tests for USN Super Hornets in anticipation of the Indian tender.

Hasn't the tender for Naval MRCA been cut down to just 36 aircraft?

 

[Akula]

Hasn't the tender for Naval MRCA been cut down to just 36 aircraft?

First of all we have to look, can both planes F-18SH and Rafale will be able to fit inside the hangar and elevator.

 

[abingdonboy]

Harbour trials completed.


Apparently GoI is going to run a brisk tender for 54 naval MRCA, and Boeing fancies another shot for the Super Hornet. Since these are just 3 sqns, the tender will be fly-away. At least it gives us a chance to pick up American weapon systems such as AAMRAM. If the Super Hornet loses, it will only be because it will come with dumb American combat use approval riders.

Boeing just conducted its own ski-jump tests for USN Super Hornets in anticipation of the Indian tender.

You guys are mad if you think the navy that’s just cut their latest P8I order requirements by 40% have enough money for 57 or even 36 SH, such a deal would be north of $6-7bn USD (maybe even more with ISE)

Rafale-M makes more sense as it will allow the Navy to take advantage of the IAF’s substantial investment in their Rafales and Dassualt has already demonstrated the Rafale-M from a navy STOBAR carrier via a simulation but it still comes down to $$$ and also the lifts- neither SH nor Rafale can fit on the Vikky’s lifts that is 100% certain, the navy did a terrible job of designing the Vikrant around the MiG-29K so again the lifts are potentially not large enough for either jet too.

 

[Longewala]

navy did a terrible job of designing the Vikrant around the MiG-29K so again the lifts are potentially not large enough for either jet too.

Which is curious, considering those complaints about its reliability earlier.
Which implies either a major fu or the navy was much more confident about the mig 29k by the mid 2010s in which case might as well get some more of the same, cheaper and simpler logistics...

 

[abingdonboy]

Which is curious, considering those complaints about its reliability earlier.
Which implies either a major fu or the navy was much more confident about the mig 29k by the mid 2010s in which case might as well get some more of the same, cheaper and simpler logistics...

They designed Vikrant in the early 00s before they had even inducted the 29K, then they contracted the Russians to design and build the aviation complex for the Vikrant ( around the 29K), by the time the 29K’s issues were highlighted the Vikrant was already under construction

 

[Bhurki]

Mig-29 with its most impressive T/W ratio is probably the only jet that can takeoff with any meaningful load from a Stobar a/c.
Both rafale and F-18Sh were deaigned around Catobar and their envelopes might not allow them to carry out all missions required ( anti shipping etc ), albeit there should be no problem doing CAP missions.

 

[Bhurki]

Mig-29 with its most impressive T/W ratio is probably the only jet that can takeoff with any meaningful load from a Stobar a/c.
Both rafale and F-18Sh were deaigned around Catobar and their envelopes might not allow them to carry out all missions required ( anti shipping etc ), albeit there should be no problem doing CAP missions.

A little comparison -

T/W with full internal fuel and no stores -
Aircraft - Max Thrust /(Empty wt+ Int Fuel)

Rafale M - 15,000 / 10,600 + 4400 = 1.0
F-18SH - 20,000 / 14,500 + 6500 = 0.95
Mig29K - 17,600 / 11,000 + 4500 = 1.13

If a minimum T/W of 0.9 is required to take off with safe limits from a Stobar, then max combat load (extra fuel, armaments) allowed -
Rafale - (1.0- 0.9) x 15,000 = 1.5 tons
SH - (0.95 -0.9) x 20,000 = 1 tons
Mig 29K - (1.13- 0.9) x 17,600 = 4 tons