INS Vikrant Aircraft Carrier (IAC)

[nrj]

we have only 1 akula , scorpene will only freeze the decline in submarine strikr force ,it will not increase the number of submarine . and what abut the air wing , we do not have enough fighter jets

We are not inducting these IACs tomorrow.
Its gonna take almost decade to have all these 3-4 IACs in active service. Escort requirements will be met accordingly soon.

Follow on order for already dealt 2 AKULAs can be made. 3 Arihants under construction already. Scorpene will be added muscle which might take time.
45-50 MIG29K already arriving. Sea Harriers to stay till 2013. NLCA will take skies soon. N-MRCA already under discussions. We might see F35 in IN colors. Wait till MRCA is finalized. MRCA Winner might be awarded for these Naval MRCA too. Possibility of Naval PAK FA & N-AMCA is not ruled out.

 

[Tamil]

We are not inducting this IACs tomorrow.
Its gonna take almost decade to have all these 3-4 IACs in active service. Escort requirements will be met accordingly soon.

Follow on order for already dealt 2 AKULAs can be made. 3 Arihants under construction already. Scorpene will be added muscle which might take time.
45-50 MIG29K already arriving. Sea Harriers to stay till 2013. NLCA will take skies soon. N-MRCA already under discussions. We might see F35 in IN colors. Wait till MRCA is finalized. MRCA Winner might be awarded for these Naval MRCA too. Possibility of Naval PAK FA & N-AMCA is not ruled out.

Too much Option Not good for us...

 

[nrj]

Too much Option Not good for us...

True. Its not good & it brings unnecessary delays. But its very recent Defense procurement trend we all know. ;-D

 

[AJSINGH]

We are not inducting these IACs tomorrow.
Its gonna take almost decade to have all these 3-4 IACs in active service. Escort requirements will be met accordingly soon.

Follow on order for already dealt 2 AKULAs can be made. 3 Arihants under construction already. Scorpene will be added muscle which might take time.
45-50 MIG29K already arriving. Sea Harriers to stay till 2013. NLCA will take skies soon. N-MRCA already under discussions. We might see F35 in IN colors. Wait till MRCA is finalized. MRCA Winner might be awarded for these Naval MRCA too. Possibility of Naval PAK FA & N-AMCA is not ruled out.

these are still in discussion stage , we all know hoe painfully things go in MOD,with cost overrun and price escalation . even if sea harriers stay till 2013 but how many are air worthy ,yeh we have got 8 of them but in reality only 4 fly , Nmrca will only be decided after IAF does and again the whole buying process will take much time

 

[nrj]

these are still in discussion stage , we all know hoe painfully things go in MOD,with cost overrun and price escalation . even if sea harriers stay till 2013 but how many are air worthy ,yeh we have got 8 of them but in reality only 4 fly , Nmrca will only be decided after IAF does and again the whole buying process will take much time

Its not off-shelf defense shopping, it takes time. Welcome to reality....


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even if sea harriers stay till 2013 but how many are air worthy ,yeh we have got 8 of them but in reality only 4 fly

IN thinking about acquiring up to eight of the Royal Navy's retired Sea Harrier FA2s in order to maintain operational Sea Harrier fleet.

 

[AJSINGH]

Its not off-shelf defense shopping, it takes time. Welcome to reality....

IN understand what you say but does MOD civilians do or the politician , i do not think so ..yeh i am aware of reality .

 

[nrj]

IN understand what you say but does MOD civilians do or the politician , i do not think so ..yeh i am aware of reality .

Stop dragging politicians in every discussion. Stick to the topic.

 

[pavanvenkatesh]

what about the scorpene fieasco? is it sorted out last i heard the scorpene will not be ready anywhere before 2016-2017 for payment issues

 

[Crusader53]

We are not inducting these IACs tomorrow.
Its gonna take almost decade to have all these 3-4 IACs in active service. Escort requirements will be met accordingly soon.

Follow on order for already dealt 2 AKULAs can be made. 3 Arihants under construction already. Scorpene will be added muscle which might take time.
45-50 MIG29K already arriving. Sea Harriers to stay till 2013. NLCA will take skies soon. N-MRCA already under discussions. We might see F35 in IN colors. Wait till MRCA is finalized. MRCA Winner might be awarded for these Naval MRCA too. Possibility of Naval PAK FA & N-AMCA is not ruled out.

I think Indian Navy needs to seriously consolidate the number of types it operates. First why does India need both the Mig-29K and (N) LCA??? As for a possible (N) MMRCA it would be a nice addition. (i.e. Super Hornet or Rafale) Yet, is India going at add yet another type??? Personally, I would just go with the Mig-29K's in the short-term then buy a small number of F-35B's and/F-35C for the IAC Carriers.

 

[AJSINGH]

Stop dragging politicians in every discussion. Stick to the topic.

politician do affect MOD, dont you know , and yes i am sticking to the thread ,thank you very much for your concern

 

[AJSINGH]

I think Indian Navy needs to seriously consolidate the number of types it operates. First why does India need both the Mig-29K and (N) LCA??? As for a possible (N) MMRCA it would be a nice addition. (i.e. Super Hornet or Rafale) Yet, is India going at add yet another type??? Personally, I would just go with the Mig-29K's in the short-term then buy a small number of F-35B's and/F-35C for the IAC Carriers.

F-35B/C not good option as compared to Naval PAK FA
and Mig29K is not short term solution ...there are here to stay for at least 20 years

 

[AJSINGH]

I



IN thinking about acquiring up to eight of the Royal Navy's retired Sea Harrier FA2s in order to maintain operational Sea Harrier fleet.

can you back it up ?

 

[nrj]

can you back it up ?

Go search wiki & news reports on INTERNET.....

 

[nrj]

I think Indian Navy needs to seriously consolidate the number of types it operates. First why does India need both the Mig-29K and (N) LCA??? As for a possible (N) MMRCA it would be a nice addition. (i.e. Super Hornet or Rafale) Yet, is India going at add yet another type??? Personally, I would just go with the Mig-29K's in the short-term then buy a small number of F-35B's and/F-35C for the IAC Carriers.

Thats true, already said Too many choices are not good but IN has definitely something in mind.

@ NLCA

Its indigenous effort to develop carrier operating fighter so its not going anywhere. How many numbers it'll consist is different issue but MOD has to start from somewhere to obtain self-reliance in carrier fighters. So NLCA program is here to stay.

@ MIG29K

Its prime fighter from INS Vikramaditya & IAC-1 at least so 50 MIG29K are decent numbers & carrier training will find MIG29K better platform.

@ F35B/C

Its costly fighter but if IN is impressed & wants fifth Gen fighter from its next (CATOBAR) carrier then things might move.

Actually there is lot of speculation regarding F35 & N-MRCA at this point. After some time things will clear up themselves.

 

[AJSINGH]

Go search wiki & news reports on INTERNET.....

very convenient ...you posted the information without any links and now you are asking me to find it ...back up your info or do not post

 

[nrj]

very convenient ...you posted the information without any links and now you are asking me to find it ...back up your info or do not post

Although India plans to ultimately supplement and replace the Sea Harrier with Russian MiG-29K carrier fighters, the Indian Navy expressed interested in acquiring up to eight of the Royal Navy's retired Sea Harrier FA2s in order to maintain their operational Sea Harrier fleet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAE_Sea_Harrier#Indian_Navy

Next time, do not quote without looking around.

 

[AJSINGH]

Next time, do not quote without looking around.

ofcourse , it is all speculation . there are so many possible deals which can happen but if you must know that deal is not going forward , how do i know , well my uncle is in naval avaition ( he flies sea king helicopters ) and he says " there was such plans but now since we have Mig29k ,we do not need Harriers"

so yeh i do my homework before posting any info

 

[nrj]

ofcourse , it is all speculation . there are so many possible deals which can happen but if you must know that deal is not going forward , how do i know , well my uncle is in naval avaition ( he flies sea king helicopters ) and he says " there was such plans but now since we have Mig29k ,we do not need Harriers"

so yeh i do my homework before posting any info

Good for your uncle & you.
In the meanwhile, Let the official statement come out.

 

[AJSINGH]

Good for your uncle & you.
In the meanwhile, Let the official statement come out.

fair enough , the proposal has not even reached MOD yet

 

[nrj]

fair enough , the proposal has not even reached MOD yet

That is because its under discussion & nothing clear yet...