INS Vikramaditya (Adm Gorshkov) aircraft carrier

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Well I don't disagree with the part that MiG-29 along with other types of Russian planes in Indian armed forces inventory require more maintenance as compared to Indian/Western platforms which is a fact but I disagree with the part that they are useless.

In reality, MiG-29 is a very capable plane and is very capable to tackle your JF-17s/F-16s/Mirage-3/5/F-7PGs. No platform is useless.
But against F 16 migs have very pathetic record no disrespect but fact yes they might be good against F 7 mirages but Jf 17 will engage them better
 

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But against F 16 migs have very pathetic record no disrespect but fact yes they might be good against F 7 mirages but Jf 17 will engage them better
MiG-29 of Both IAF and Navy are superior Technology wise as compared to your F-7/Mirage-3/Mirage-5.

During Kargil war our MiG-29s had BVR Superiority over your F-16s. F-16 of PAF today has an edge Against MiG-29 in BVR with its AIM-120C5 as compared to MiG-29's R-27/77 but later this too will be nullified when our MiG-29s start getting Astras after which we will have the edge in BVR. Only your JF-17s and F-16s are capable of Countering our MiG-29s.
 

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MiG-29 of Both IAF and Navy are superior Technology wise as compared to your F-7/Mirage-3/Mirage-5.

During Kargil war our MiG-29s had BVR Superiority over your F-16s. F-16 of PAF today has an edge Against MiG-29 in BVR with its AIM-120C5 as compared to MiG-29's R-27/77 but later this too will be nullified when our MiG-29s start getting Astras after which we will have the edge in BVR. Only your JF-17s and F-16s are capable of Countering our MiG-29s.
Rightly said sir I totally agree with you but there is a J 10 also soon PL 21 Also coming with better range as meteor
 

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Rightly said sir I totally agree with you but there is a J 10 also soon PL 21 Also coming with better range as meteor
J-10 and PL-21? J-10 will not be able to carry PL-21 because PL-21 will be too large for J-10. As of now, PL-21 is being planned to be used from J-20/J-31 and J-16 Reportedly. J-10 can carry and fire the PL-15 missile though.
 

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Rightly said sir I totally agree with you but there is a J 10 also soon PL 21 Also coming with better range as meteor
Mate, Pakistan since at least the last decade has made China the sole supplier of high end weapons. Obviously they must be having enormous faith in the capability of those weapons. BUT

Has there been at least one confirmed kill of an Chinese Air to Air missile in recent times (the last two decades). If yes, provide the source of your assertion.

Why does China not supply its latest AAM's to Iran which in turn would have tested it against the Israeli Air Force. Some data would be available to assess the claimed capability of the Chinese missiles.

In contrast Western and Russian AAM's have been proven in battle.

Dont compare India' s AAM's with that of China. We are an relatively new entrant to the race but given our expertise in software and programming I foresee many updates to the already capable Astra series of AAM's. We have also begun manufacturing the seekers.
 

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But against F 16 migs have very pathetic record no disrespect but fact yes they might be good against F 7 mirages but Jf 17 will engage them better
Give some F 16 and JF 17 to Ukraine so that Russian can improve their past records.

These records were made against Libya, Iraq and Syria. Pakistani F16 is no match to Indian Mig 29 and Su-30mki.

Don't feel offended but Jf17 is actually a scam. Chinese bribing your military/politician to accept Jf17. Three versions of Jf17 but yet to see a fully functional 4th generation version.
 

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‘May be true or may be an idiot’s paradise. The pilots practice on a fixed ski jump. The INS Vikrant is sailing but not receiving planes as it is on a practice sail with full complement of the crew. The Vikramaditya is on a extended refit. Another 3 months, it will be back.

The Print is a left oriented anti government website. It enjoys all the negative news which in fact is not a news but a regular operational episode.
 

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People keep saying that Chinese Navy pilots are least experienced, Chinese Navy leats experience but on other hand they are using their both the AC to full extent infact their first carrier continously on duty but on other hand we one of the most experienced navy are facing problems of no experience
Wonderful isn't
Our policy makers should start thinking in right direction 🤔
Our usual critics around them should be reconsidered
 

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People keep saying that Chinese Navy pilots are least experienced, Chinese Navy leats experience but on other hand they are using their both the AC to full extent infact their first carrier continously on duty but on other hand we one of the most experienced navy are facing problems of no experience
Wonderful isn't
Our policy makers should start thinking in right direction 🤔
Our usual critics around them should be reconsidered
‘There is a truth in whatever people say. In addition ‘People‘ have missed one point that Chinese people in general are afraid of the deep; Chinese sailors are no exception.
 

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‘There is a truth in whatever people say. In addition ‘People‘ have missed one point that Chinese people in general are afraid of the deep; Chinese sailors are no exception.
Sorry to be rude sir
But exactly do u know they are afraid to deep
How could u claim that
For being fearless u need confidence on your system, quantity of it and leadership behind
Which they have plenty
Coming to bravery both sides are filled with it
So what dominates here is logistics quantity and usability which they have full confidence
 

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