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Good but not a perfect. I was waiting for nuke deal news and if it is signed but still not sure. I tuought it was clever not to highlight it too much to show it is a natural normal agreement that others have also done. Was looking out for then dessert also.
But after reading some articles: Is nuke deal a mou is it a final agreement ?
Japan also mention we have made a unilateral volunteer moratorium on nuke testing. Was that required to be said ? India will not break any international law and will behave like all the declared nuclear weapon state. Who is that aimed at - domestic audience - someone else . whats with that. if USA (and many others) signed deal and japan is not does that mean USA is stupid and irresponsible. It is like supplying Taiwan nuke tech ... Don't talk about it has no value in international law. Who is holding japan back.
But overall will take it. India and japan relations will develop more and rightly. I think japan still not making all its decision's on its own and in its self interest. But it is getting there step by step. Hence first a mou to indicate direction ...
I also liked the fact the loan for high speed train is in Japanese yen. That ought to continue and is good for japan and india relations.
But after reading some articles: Is nuke deal a mou is it a final agreement ?
Japan also mention we have made a unilateral volunteer moratorium on nuke testing. Was that required to be said ? India will not break any international law and will behave like all the declared nuclear weapon state. Who is that aimed at - domestic audience - someone else . whats with that. if USA (and many others) signed deal and japan is not does that mean USA is stupid and irresponsible. It is like supplying Taiwan nuke tech ... Don't talk about it has no value in international law. Who is holding japan back.
But overall will take it. India and japan relations will develop more and rightly. I think japan still not making all its decision's on its own and in its self interest. But it is getting there step by step. Hence first a mou to indicate direction ...
I also liked the fact the loan for high speed train is in Japanese yen. That ought to continue and is good for japan and india relations.
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why Bombay to Ahmadabad ??? clearly show discrimination against punjab
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Shinzo Abe recruited by RSS sanghis :biggrin2::biggrin2::biggrin2::biggrin2:
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Why they signed MoU on nuclear deal and why not full civil nuclear deal .
it stills looks like India-japan have not shourted out issues
it stills looks like India-japan have not shourted out issues
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India Opens Door to Japanese Assistance in Andaman and Nicobar Islands
The Andaman and Nicobar Islands, located in the Bay of Bengal, northwest of the pivotal maritime choke point at the Strait of Malacca, are an immensely valuable geopolitical asset for India, particularly as it looks to ‘Act East’ and play an increasingly more visible role in the eastern Indian Ocean and beyond.
The islands host an Indian tri-service command, the first of its kind, positioning them as an important outpost for the Indian military. For the first time, New Delhi has opened the door to collaborating with Japan on developing and upgrading civilian infrastructure on the islands.
The New York Times reports that the two countries are discussing a modest project to build a 15-megawatt diesel power plant on South Andaman Island. India and Japan have been strategically converging over the past decade, since they declared a Strategic Global Partnership in 2006. As the report notes, by opening talks with Japan, India is shifting on its longstanding policy of rejecting foreign investment on the strategically important and sensitive islands. Even though the projects in question are “not of a big scale, and not of a big value,” according a senior Indian official who spoke to the Times, the acceptance of Japanese assistance is significant in itself.
As their partnership has matured over the years, Japan has become a considerable source of foreign investment for major infrastructure initiatives in India. Notably, Tokyo is partly underwriting the Delhi-Mumbai Industrial Corridor, which is among the largest infrastructure projects in the world. Moreover, India continues to be a major recipient of Japanese official development assistance (ODA) loans. Since 2010, Japanese ODA loan aid to India has been increasing every year.
China’s increasingly assertive behavior in the East and South China Seas and its simultaneous pursuit of civilian port infrastructure along the Indian Ocean littoral has in part driven New Delhi and Tokyo closer together. Since 2012, the two states have held regular bilateral naval exercises (JIMEX) and, starting last year, Japan became a permanent member of the U.S.-India Malabar series of exercises. Japan is also in talks to sell New Delhi maritime patrol aircraft, though that deal has run into some roadblocks lately.
From the Times‘ report, there’s little to suggest that Tokyo and New Delhi have broached the subject of possible cooperation on projects that could have military applications in the Andaman and Nicobar Islands soon. Indeed, the cooperation so far involves Japan International Cooperation Agency (JICA), Japan’s aid agency, which is involved in several projects of a similar nature across India. JICA could become involved in infrastructure projects of a larger scope on the islands in the future now that India has opened the door.
With recent reports also suggesting that the United States and India are nearing an agreement on military logistics cooperation after over a decade of talks, the Andaman Islands may become increasingly visible on Asia’s naval landscape over the coming years. That agreement may be concluded during U.S. Defense Secretary Ashton Carter’s scheduled April visit to India.
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A strategic and Psy Op!!
The Andaman and Nicobar Islands, located in the Bay of Bengal, northwest of the pivotal maritime choke point at the Strait of Malacca, are an immensely valuable geopolitical asset for India, particularly as it looks to ‘Act East’ and play an increasingly more visible role in the eastern Indian Ocean and beyond.
The islands host an Indian tri-service command, the first of its kind, positioning them as an important outpost for the Indian military. For the first time, New Delhi has opened the door to collaborating with Japan on developing and upgrading civilian infrastructure on the islands.
The New York Times reports that the two countries are discussing a modest project to build a 15-megawatt diesel power plant on South Andaman Island. India and Japan have been strategically converging over the past decade, since they declared a Strategic Global Partnership in 2006. As the report notes, by opening talks with Japan, India is shifting on its longstanding policy of rejecting foreign investment on the strategically important and sensitive islands. Even though the projects in question are “not of a big scale, and not of a big value,” according a senior Indian official who spoke to the Times, the acceptance of Japanese assistance is significant in itself.
As their partnership has matured over the years, Japan has become a considerable source of foreign investment for major infrastructure initiatives in India. Notably, Tokyo is partly underwriting the Delhi-Mumbai Industrial Corridor, which is among the largest infrastructure projects in the world. Moreover, India continues to be a major recipient of Japanese official development assistance (ODA) loans. Since 2010, Japanese ODA loan aid to India has been increasing every year.
China’s increasingly assertive behavior in the East and South China Seas and its simultaneous pursuit of civilian port infrastructure along the Indian Ocean littoral has in part driven New Delhi and Tokyo closer together. Since 2012, the two states have held regular bilateral naval exercises (JIMEX) and, starting last year, Japan became a permanent member of the U.S.-India Malabar series of exercises. Japan is also in talks to sell New Delhi maritime patrol aircraft, though that deal has run into some roadblocks lately.
From the Times‘ report, there’s little to suggest that Tokyo and New Delhi have broached the subject of possible cooperation on projects that could have military applications in the Andaman and Nicobar Islands soon. Indeed, the cooperation so far involves Japan International Cooperation Agency (JICA), Japan’s aid agency, which is involved in several projects of a similar nature across India. JICA could become involved in infrastructure projects of a larger scope on the islands in the future now that India has opened the door.
With recent reports also suggesting that the United States and India are nearing an agreement on military logistics cooperation after over a decade of talks, the Andaman Islands may become increasingly visible on Asia’s naval landscape over the coming years. That agreement may be concluded during U.S. Defense Secretary Ashton Carter’s scheduled April visit to India.
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A strategic and Psy Op!!
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One thing we should appreciate about Americans is that they always make right friends at right time.
Just look at PRC, Americans are surrounding them with adversaries.
They did it at WW1, WW2, Vietnam, Gulf, Afghanistan and now against PRC.
Just look at PRC, Americans are surrounding them with adversaries.
They did it at WW1, WW2, Vietnam, Gulf, Afghanistan and now against PRC.
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India, Japan eye deeper defence ties to counter China
NEW DELHI: Prime Minister Narendra Modi will visit Japan next month for an annual summit, India said Friday, with the Asian giants expected to deepen defence ties to counter an assertive China and ink a civil nuclear deal.
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NEW DELHI: Prime Minister Narendra Modi will visit Japan next month for an annual summit, India said Friday, with the Asian giants expected to deepen defence ties to counter an assertive China and ink a civil nuclear deal.
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India, Japan sign landmark civilian nuclear deal
The nuclear deal, signed during Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s visit to Japan, paves the way for India to buy nuclear technology from Japan
Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi with his Japanese counterpart Shinzo Abe in Tokyo on Friday. Photo: Franck Robichon/Pool Photo via AP
New Delhi: Capping years of negotiations, India and Japan on Friday signed a bilateral civilian nuclear cooperation agreement seen as crucial for energy-starved India to access sensitive technologies to generate clean electricity.
The pact is a major achievement for India as it is Japan’s first civilian nuclear cooperation pact with a country that has not signed the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.
It was inked in Tokyo in the presence of Prime Minister Narendra Modi and his Japanese host Shinzo Abe. Modi is on a three-day visit to Japan for the annual summit between the two prime ministers.
That it was signed with Abe at the helm of affairs in Japan is also key, given that he has been keen to forge close links with India to counter the rise of China. Ties between India and Japan have warmed considerably since Abe returned to office in 2012.
The deal has been many years in the making because India was reluctant to limit its option to carry out more atomic weapons’ tests—in addition to the ones carried out in 1998—in case the need arose. And Japan—being the only country in the world to have suffered the impact of nuclear weapons being dropped on it—was uncomfortable with India having a nuclear weapons programme outside the nuclear non-proliferation regime.
“A landmark deal for a cleaner, greener world! PM @narendramodi and PM @AbeShinzo witness exchange of the landmark Civil Nuclear Agreement,” said Indian foreign ministry spokesman Vikas Swarup in a Twitter post.
Modi later described the signing of the pact as “a historic step”.
The ‘Cooperation in the Peaceful Uses of Nuclear Energy’ pact provides for “the development of nuclear power projects in India and thus strengthening of energy security of the country,” an Indian foreign ministry statement said. “The present agreement would open up the door for collaboration between Indian and Japanese industries in our Civil Nuclear programme,” it said.
Former joint secretary (disarmament) and ex-Indian ambassador to France Rakesh Sood said the pact “enables us to obtain high-quality components for nuclear reactors, especially ones that we are negotiating for with Westinghouse (Electric Co.) and (French) Areva SA.”
Westinghouse Electric Company is a subsidiary of Japan’s Toshiba Corp. Areva, too, accesses key reactor components from Japanese firms.
India signed a landmark nuclear deal with the US in 2008, clearing the path for the country to source nuclear power plants and technology from international markets. But with Japanese companies in possession of critical technologies, such as steel shields covering a nuclear reactor core, an accord with Japan was pivotal for India.
During the last prime ministerial summit in New Delhi in December, India and Japan announced that they had reached a basic agreement on the pact.
India currently has 5.7 gigawatts (GW) of nuclear power generation capacity. This accounts for 2% of the total power capacity, but this is expected to change with a sharp increase in power generation from atomic plants over the next 16 years as Asia’s third largest economy moves away from fossil fuels for its energy needs.
India’s Department of Atomic Energy’s target is to have 63GW of nuclear power capacity by 2032.
Among the other agreements signed was one to skill “30,000 Indian youth in the Japanese styled manufacturing in the next 10 years”, a government statement said.
“This would be achieved through the programmes of Japan-India Institute for Manufacturing (JIM) and the Japanese Endowed Courses (JEC) in select Engineering colleges,” it said.
Pacts on cooperation in space, earth sciences, agriculture, forestry and fisheries, transport and urban development and sports were the others signed.
Earlier in the day, in a meeting with Japanese business leaders, Modi said his government was pursuing a new direction of economic reforms. He said his government was resolved to make India the most open economy in the world.
The nuclear deal, signed during Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s visit to Japan, paves the way for India to buy nuclear technology from Japan
Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi with his Japanese counterpart Shinzo Abe in Tokyo on Friday. Photo: Franck Robichon/Pool Photo via AP
New Delhi: Capping years of negotiations, India and Japan on Friday signed a bilateral civilian nuclear cooperation agreement seen as crucial for energy-starved India to access sensitive technologies to generate clean electricity.
The pact is a major achievement for India as it is Japan’s first civilian nuclear cooperation pact with a country that has not signed the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.
It was inked in Tokyo in the presence of Prime Minister Narendra Modi and his Japanese host Shinzo Abe. Modi is on a three-day visit to Japan for the annual summit between the two prime ministers.
That it was signed with Abe at the helm of affairs in Japan is also key, given that he has been keen to forge close links with India to counter the rise of China. Ties between India and Japan have warmed considerably since Abe returned to office in 2012.
The deal has been many years in the making because India was reluctant to limit its option to carry out more atomic weapons’ tests—in addition to the ones carried out in 1998—in case the need arose. And Japan—being the only country in the world to have suffered the impact of nuclear weapons being dropped on it—was uncomfortable with India having a nuclear weapons programme outside the nuclear non-proliferation regime.
“A landmark deal for a cleaner, greener world! PM @narendramodi and PM @AbeShinzo witness exchange of the landmark Civil Nuclear Agreement,” said Indian foreign ministry spokesman Vikas Swarup in a Twitter post.
Modi later described the signing of the pact as “a historic step”.
The ‘Cooperation in the Peaceful Uses of Nuclear Energy’ pact provides for “the development of nuclear power projects in India and thus strengthening of energy security of the country,” an Indian foreign ministry statement said. “The present agreement would open up the door for collaboration between Indian and Japanese industries in our Civil Nuclear programme,” it said.
Former joint secretary (disarmament) and ex-Indian ambassador to France Rakesh Sood said the pact “enables us to obtain high-quality components for nuclear reactors, especially ones that we are negotiating for with Westinghouse (Electric Co.) and (French) Areva SA.”
Westinghouse Electric Company is a subsidiary of Japan’s Toshiba Corp. Areva, too, accesses key reactor components from Japanese firms.
India signed a landmark nuclear deal with the US in 2008, clearing the path for the country to source nuclear power plants and technology from international markets. But with Japanese companies in possession of critical technologies, such as steel shields covering a nuclear reactor core, an accord with Japan was pivotal for India.
During the last prime ministerial summit in New Delhi in December, India and Japan announced that they had reached a basic agreement on the pact.
India currently has 5.7 gigawatts (GW) of nuclear power generation capacity. This accounts for 2% of the total power capacity, but this is expected to change with a sharp increase in power generation from atomic plants over the next 16 years as Asia’s third largest economy moves away from fossil fuels for its energy needs.
India’s Department of Atomic Energy’s target is to have 63GW of nuclear power capacity by 2032.
Among the other agreements signed was one to skill “30,000 Indian youth in the Japanese styled manufacturing in the next 10 years”, a government statement said.
“This would be achieved through the programmes of Japan-India Institute for Manufacturing (JIM) and the Japanese Endowed Courses (JEC) in select Engineering colleges,” it said.
Pacts on cooperation in space, earth sciences, agriculture, forestry and fisheries, transport and urban development and sports were the others signed.
Earlier in the day, in a meeting with Japanese business leaders, Modi said his government was pursuing a new direction of economic reforms. He said his government was resolved to make India the most open economy in the world.
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Japan, India sign civil pact on nuclear power after reassurances from Modi, Japan has option to scrap N-deal
BY AYAKO MIE
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Prime Minister Shinzo Abe on Friday signed a civilian nuclear cooperation pact with visiting Indian leader Narendra Modi as he pushes to promote exports of Japanese nuclear technology to keep the teetering economy afloat.
The basis of the treaty was agreed on last December, before his three-day visit to Japan.
The treaty will allow Japan to transfer nuclear technology-related components and help build reactors in India, where countries like China and France are eyeing opportunities for similar investment.
Japan has treaties of this type with 13 countries, including the United States, France and Russia, but this is the first with a nation that is not part of the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty.
Concerns persist in signing such a deal with a non-NPT member. But Tokyo said India’s pledge to the Nuclear Supplier Group in 2008 to maintain a voluntary moratorium on nuclear weapons testing provides legitimacy for the pact.
India’s pledge allowed the 45-nation NSG to lift an embargo stretching back three decades on civilian nuclear trade. Since then, India has entered similar pacts with eight nations, including the U.S., France and Russia.
To hold India accountable, the Japan-India treaty says Tokyo can notify New Delhi of the termination of the pact with one year’s notice. A separate memorandum specifies that Japan can suspend cooperation if India breaches its no-testing pledge to the NSG.
“The agreement is a legal framework to ensure that India will act responsibly for the peace of use of nuclear energy. It will also prompt India to participate in the nonproliferation regime even though India is not a participant of NPT,” Abe said at the joint news conference. “This is exactly in line with Japan’s position of promoting a world without nuclear weapons.”
Modi reassured Tokyo that it has a firm nonproliferation system.
“Japan-India cooperation is about energy security and it will send a message to the world,” Modi told Abe at their summit. “India has been implementing the voluntary moratorium on nuclear testing and our non-proliferation system is the best in the world.”
Japan is in a delicate position when it comes to atomic power. Abe boasts it has adopted the strictest nuclear safety standards in the world since the triple core meltdown at the Fukushima No. 1 power plant in 2011. But only three reactors have been restarted after all were eventually taken offline in the wake of the crisis, and anti-nuclear governors have been elected in prefectures that host nuclear power plants, underscoring strong negative public sentiment.
On the other hand, as the only country to suffer atomic bombings, Japan takes a firm position when it comes to opposing the existence of nuclear weapons. Just last month, Japan refused to back a nuclear arms ban proposed at the United Nations.Still, Tokyo said that signing the accord will commit India to the international nonproliferation framework, which would be a step forward toward achieving a world without nuclear weapons.
The pact between the second — and third-largest economies in Asia also comes as Japanese parts makers, including Mitsubishi Heavy Industries Ltd. and Hitachi Ltd., which took major damage from the Fukushima disaster, face tougher competition with China in exporting nuclear technology.
And the pact could prove even more timely as the Vietnamese government on Thursday submitted a resolution to cancel its nuclear power station project with Japan due to safety concerns after Fukushima.
BY AYAKO MIE
STAFF WRITER
Prime Minister Shinzo Abe on Friday signed a civilian nuclear cooperation pact with visiting Indian leader Narendra Modi as he pushes to promote exports of Japanese nuclear technology to keep the teetering economy afloat.
The basis of the treaty was agreed on last December, before his three-day visit to Japan.
The treaty will allow Japan to transfer nuclear technology-related components and help build reactors in India, where countries like China and France are eyeing opportunities for similar investment.
Japan has treaties of this type with 13 countries, including the United States, France and Russia, but this is the first with a nation that is not part of the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty.
Concerns persist in signing such a deal with a non-NPT member. But Tokyo said India’s pledge to the Nuclear Supplier Group in 2008 to maintain a voluntary moratorium on nuclear weapons testing provides legitimacy for the pact.
India’s pledge allowed the 45-nation NSG to lift an embargo stretching back three decades on civilian nuclear trade. Since then, India has entered similar pacts with eight nations, including the U.S., France and Russia.
To hold India accountable, the Japan-India treaty says Tokyo can notify New Delhi of the termination of the pact with one year’s notice. A separate memorandum specifies that Japan can suspend cooperation if India breaches its no-testing pledge to the NSG.
“The agreement is a legal framework to ensure that India will act responsibly for the peace of use of nuclear energy. It will also prompt India to participate in the nonproliferation regime even though India is not a participant of NPT,” Abe said at the joint news conference. “This is exactly in line with Japan’s position of promoting a world without nuclear weapons.”
Modi reassured Tokyo that it has a firm nonproliferation system.
“Japan-India cooperation is about energy security and it will send a message to the world,” Modi told Abe at their summit. “India has been implementing the voluntary moratorium on nuclear testing and our non-proliferation system is the best in the world.”
Japan is in a delicate position when it comes to atomic power. Abe boasts it has adopted the strictest nuclear safety standards in the world since the triple core meltdown at the Fukushima No. 1 power plant in 2011. But only three reactors have been restarted after all were eventually taken offline in the wake of the crisis, and anti-nuclear governors have been elected in prefectures that host nuclear power plants, underscoring strong negative public sentiment.
On the other hand, as the only country to suffer atomic bombings, Japan takes a firm position when it comes to opposing the existence of nuclear weapons. Just last month, Japan refused to back a nuclear arms ban proposed at the United Nations.Still, Tokyo said that signing the accord will commit India to the international nonproliferation framework, which would be a step forward toward achieving a world without nuclear weapons.
The pact between the second — and third-largest economies in Asia also comes as Japanese parts makers, including Mitsubishi Heavy Industries Ltd. and Hitachi Ltd., which took major damage from the Fukushima disaster, face tougher competition with China in exporting nuclear technology.
And the pact could prove even more timely as the Vietnamese government on Thursday submitted a resolution to cancel its nuclear power station project with Japan due to safety concerns after Fukushima.
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I've lost 40% of my respect for Shinzo AbeShinzo Abe recruited by RSS sanghis :biggrin2::biggrin2::biggrin2::biggrin2:
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Why ??? You do realize its just a joke.
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Japan is India's best ally at the moment to checkmate China similar, But not exactly alike, to how China has partnered with pakiland to checkmate India. .
the differences are that while Pakistan is an unstable,culturally agressive and short term ally with little to offer in way of technological assistance to China. it offers China natural resources and transit routes while it drains India of resources through a low intensity war. I think eventually pakistanis salafist ideology will eventually hurt chinese interests by being a base for jihadis when China becomes the hegemon in central asia. we have seen China try to control and even ditch north Korea when their interests in the rest of East Asia became more valuable. Pakistan China alliance is a house of straw and mud. Short term
Japan offers India cutting edge technology and huge economic benefits as well offers India international esteem from being a friend to an advanced and peaceful country. Japan could open a second front or at least keep a huge part of Chinese military assets preoccupied on china's eastern areas in event of war if India and japan's friendship progresses that far. The japanese are too trusting of the american block which they should engage in but will realise they need to add alliances like india vietnam and Philippines. Japan and indian friendship and maybe even alliance is a long term partnership with incremental trust building. it could be a house of brick if both sides realise the long term benefits
the differences are that while Pakistan is an unstable,culturally agressive and short term ally with little to offer in way of technological assistance to China. it offers China natural resources and transit routes while it drains India of resources through a low intensity war. I think eventually pakistanis salafist ideology will eventually hurt chinese interests by being a base for jihadis when China becomes the hegemon in central asia. we have seen China try to control and even ditch north Korea when their interests in the rest of East Asia became more valuable. Pakistan China alliance is a house of straw and mud. Short term
Japan offers India cutting edge technology and huge economic benefits as well offers India international esteem from being a friend to an advanced and peaceful country. Japan could open a second front or at least keep a huge part of Chinese military assets preoccupied on china's eastern areas in event of war if India and japan's friendship progresses that far. The japanese are too trusting of the american block which they should engage in but will realise they need to add alliances like india vietnam and Philippines. Japan and indian friendship and maybe even alliance is a long term partnership with incremental trust building. it could be a house of brick if both sides realise the long term benefits
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http://www.firstpost.com/india/indi...pan-to-expand-maritime-relations-3162364.html
Indian Navy chief Admiral Sunil Lanba visits Japan
Indian Navy chief Admiral Sunil Lanba visits Japan
