Indo-French joint Air Exercise 'GARUDA' begins in France

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Indian fighter jets excel in asset protection mission in France
Indian fighter jet SU-30MKIs have excelled in high value air borne asset protection and busting missions in the Exercise Garuda 2010 being held at the Istres Air Base in Marseille, France.
The exercise between the air forces of India, France and Singapore, which concludes on Friday, entered its final phase on Wednesday.
Over 60 missions have been successfully flown till now.
SU-30MKI along with the Mirage-2000-5, Rafale and the F-16 were also engaged in various air defence maneuvers such as implementation of "no fly zones" and large force engagements during day and night.
A unique feature to which the SU-30s were subjected was the "swing roles", where the same aircraft is simultaneously put to offensive as well as defensive roles.
The IL-78 refuellers of the IAF and the KC-135 refuellers of the French Air Force also participated in various missions carrying out cross refueling, where refuelling denials were practised to make it more difficult.
Meanwhile, the IAF Special Forces team "Gurada" also carried out two jumps each by day and night.
"Our participation in the exercise has reinforced the manner in which we conduct our operations. It has also helped us refine our doctrine," said Air Marshal K K Nowhar, who visited the contingent involved in the exercise.
"In future, there is a slim chance that a country would operate in isolation especially in a co-operative defence scenario. Thus knowing each others best practices in terms of tactics, techniques and procedures is the main objective of this exercise, which is also a part of the on-going Indo-French Defence Cooperation," he added.
The Indian Air Attache in France, Air Commodore S K Ghotia, said: "This has been the widest scope ever accomplished between three nations. The exercise brought together the best fighting machines of the world such as the Sukhois, F16s, Rafale and Mirage-2000."
"Our pilots flew in these cockpits and has gained tremendous learning experience. The engineers, technicians and all other members of the team have also benefitted substantially from the exercise," he added.
 

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Ex Garuda Enters its Final Phase
Air Marshal KK Nowhar Visits IAF Contingent
over 60 Missions Sucessfully Flown by the IAF


Indian Ministry of Defence, June 23

The exercise Garuda 2010, presently underway at Istres Air Base in France, between the air forces of India France and Singapore has entered its final phase today. Over 60 missions have been successfully flown and the exercise would conclude on 25 Jun 2010.

During the exrecise, the six IAF SU-30MKI along with the Mirage-2000-5 and Rafale and the F-16 were engaged in various air defence manouvres such as implementation of "no fly zones" and large force engagements during day and night. The SU-30 also took part in the high value air borne asset protection as well as their protection busting missions. The IL-78 refuellers of the IAF and the KC-135 refuellers of the French Air Force also participated in various missions carrying out cross refuelling (i,e, refuelling the fighters of the other air forces). Refuelling denials were practised making these missions more difficult.

A unique feature to which the SU-30 were subjected was the "swing roles". In this type of missions, the same aircraft is simultaneously put to offensive as well as defensive roles. The E-3 AWACS provided the radar coverage during the Ex. The IAF special forces team "Gurad" have so far carried out two jumps each by day and night along with the French special forces. Our IL-76 is undertaking the task of these drops.

Air Mshl KK Nowhar of the IAF who visited the contingent involved in the Garuda-2010 said - " Our participation in the Ex has reinforced the manner in which we conduct our operations. It has also helped us refine our doctrine. In future, there is a slim chance that a country would operate in isolation especially in a co-operative defence scenario. Thus knowing each others best practices in terms of tactics, techniques and procedures is the main objective of this exercise, which is also a part of the on-going Indo-French Defence Cooperation".

According to Air Attache, Embassy of India, France, Air Cmde SK Ghotia who is also the chief coordinator of the IAF-FAF Cooperation, Garuda-2010 is a milestone in the Indo-French defence cooperation. This has been the widest scope ever accomplished between three nations. The Ex brought together the best fighting machines of the world such as the Sukhois, F16s, Rafale and Mirage-2000-5. Our pilots flew in these cockpits and has gained tremendous learning experience. The engineers, technicians and all other members of the team have also benefitted substantially from the exercise.

The intensity of the Ex has been increased gradually to enhance the understanding of the contingent members begining with basic One-Vs-One missions and limited BVR capabilities, and then progressing to multi-aircraft strikes and counter air missions with complete BVR capability, and concluding with Large Force Engagement sorties.

http://pib.nic.in/release/release.asp?relid=62755
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Man I know the F -16 is a potent fighter jet but it sure is ugly. The Su-30 MKI is definitely the most beautiful fighter (after PAKFA of course), the Mirage 2000 is second most beautiful and the F-16 is just butt ugly.
 
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French air force to bring Rafale jets to India


New Delhi: The French Air Force is planning to bring its state-of-the-art Rafale fighter jets to India for a bilateral air exercise next year.

French Air Force officers had discussed the idea with the Indian Air Force team, which is currently in France for a tri-lateral air exercise in which the Singapore air force too is a part.

"At present, the talks for the next Indo-French exercise are also on and the French officials have expressed their desire to bring the Rafale aircraft for the next joint air exercise likely to be held in 2011-12 in India," an IAF officer, who is part of the Indian continent for Garuda-2010 exercise in Istres air base in France, said today.

The current exercise also entered its final phase with over 60 missions having been successfully flown in the last one week. The present Garuda exercise will conclude tomorrow.

During the exercise, IAF's six potent Su-30MKI fighter aircraft along with the French fighter jets Mirage-2000-5 and Rafale engaged in various air defence manoeuvres alongside the Singaporean Air Force's F-16 planes.

Among the manoeuvres practised were implementation of 'no fly zones' and large force engagements during day and night. The Su-30s also took part in a high value air-borne asset protection as well as protection busting missions.

The IL-78 refuellers of the IAF and the KC-135 refuellers of the French Air Force also participated in various missions carrying out refuelling of fighters of other air forces.

Refuelling denials were practised, making these missions more difficult, a press release issued by IAF here said.

A unique feature to which the Su-30 were subjected was the 'swing roles' under which the same aircraft was simultaneously put to offensive as well as defensive roles.

The E-3 AWACS provided the radar coverage during the exercise, while the IAF special forces 'Garud' carried out two jumps each by day and night along with the French special forces.

IAF's IL-76 was used for these jumps by the two special forces teams.

Senior IAF officer Air Marshal K K Nowhar, who visited the contingent during Garuda-2010, said, "Our participation in the exercise has reinforced the manner in which we conduct our operations. It has also helped us refine our doctrine."

On the lessons learnt from the exercise, Nowhar said, "In the future, there is a slim chance that a country would operate in isolation especially in a co-operative defence scenario. Thus knowing each other's best practices in terms of tactics, techniques and procedures is the main objective of this exercise, which is also a part of the Indo-French defence cooperation."
 
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French Rafale jets for 2011 wargames


NEW DELHI: The French Air Force may field its latest Rafale fighters for an Indo-French military exercise in India next year. The Rafale's presence in such a setting would come at a time when competition for IAF's mammoth MMRCA (medium multi-role combat aircraft) contract, in which the French fighter is participating, would enter the final lap.

An Air Force officer said talks are underway for the next Indo-French exercise, and French officials have "expressed their desire to bring the state-of-the-art Rafale aircraft for the next Indo-French air exercise" to beheld in India.

The reports of the move come as the two sides, along with Singapore, enter the final stages of the exercise 'Garuda 2010', presently underway at Istres Air Base in France.

During the ongoing exercise, India's six SU-30MKI fighters along with France's Mirage-2000-5 and Rafale and Singapore's F-16 were engaged in various air defence manoeuvres such as implementation of "no-fly zones" and large force engagements during day and night.

"The SU-30 also took part in the high value airborne asset protection as well as their protection busting missions. The IL-78 refuellers of the IAF and the KC-135 refuellers of the French Air Force also participated in various missions carrying out cross-refueling," an IAF statement said.

The IAF said a unique feature to which the SU-30 were subjected during the exercise was the "swing roles", meaning the same aircraft simultaneously carried out both offensive and defensive roles.

Besides its Sukhoi-30 MKI fighters, the IAF also fielded its special force Garuds, who carried out day and night jumps along with French special forces, the IAF said.
 

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MKI used its radar for "complete BVR capability"

The exercise started with basic one-versus-one missions with limited Beyond Visual Range capabilities, progressed to multi-aircraft strikes and counter air missions with complete BVR capability, and concluded with Large Force Engagement sorties.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article485679.ece

We know that emission call now! =xD
 

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The exercise started with basic one-versus-one missions with limited Beyond Visual Range capabilities, progressed to multi-aircraft strikes and counter air missions with complete BVR capability, and concluded with Large Force Engagement sorties.
Singaporean F-16D ( Block 52 ) also used their radar for complete BVR capability, which also give us the emission of Pak-F-16 ( Block 52 ) for future possible engagements..
 
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MKI used its radar for "complete BVR capability"

We know that emission call now! =xD




You will find this interesting, that we have old Sukhoi's SB058 and the very brand new SB309 flying in the same squadron.
 

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OK, I got the list of the ones flying at Garuda... all from Bareilly.

SB058
SB060
SB303
SB304
SB305
SB309

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Batch numbers

Su-30MKI-I: SB001, ..., SB008
Su-30MKI-II: SB009, ..., SB018
Su-30MKI-III: SB019, ..., SB050
HAL Su-30MKI: SB101 and so on ...
HAL Su-30MKI: SB303 and so on ... (2010)

So 2 are batch 3 made by Russia and 4 are the latest made by HAL.
 
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Singaporean F-16D ( Block 52 ) also used their radar for complete BVR capability, which also give us the emission of Pak-F-16 ( Block 52 ) for future possible engagements..

I can't believe that India used their radars for the exercise. That was a bad move by India to do this and now France and maybe the US can now recognize our NO11 Bars radar. If this is true I don't understand why they used their radars now and not use them in America.
 

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OK, I got the list of the ones flying at Garuda... all from Bareilly.

SB058
SB060
SB303
SB304
SB305
SB309

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Batch numbers

Su-30MKI-I: SB001, ..., SB008
Su-30MKI-II: SB009, ..., SB018
Su-30MKI-III: SB019, ..., SB050
HAL Su-30MKI: SB101 and so on ...
HAL Su-30MKI: SB303 and so on ... (2010)

So 2 are batch 3 made by Russia and 4 are the latest made by HAL.
Their is no conform reports abt what radar is placed in what aircraft though older Su-30mki were equipped with NIIP NO11M Bars (Panther), Newer ones may have Irbis-E..
 

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I can't believe that India used their radars for the exercise. That was a bad move by India to do this and now France and maybe the US can now recognize our NO11 Bars radar. If this is true I don't understand why they used their radars now and not use them in America.
You must understand that IAF never ever used its radars during any past exercise, but suddenly they used in Garuda 2010, these IAF officials are professionals and they would never done this without any solid reason, IAF officials know what they are doing so their is nothing to worry abt..

Besides its obvious we used old bars for BVR use to gain quality knowledge and tactic during this awesome exercise..
 

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Their is no conform reports abt what radar is placed in what aircraft though older Su-30mki were equipped with NIIP NO11M Bars (Panther), Newer ones may have Irbis-E..
No MKI has Irbis-E (Su-35BM only), all these MKIs have N011M and thrust vector.
 

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You must understand that IAF never ever used its radars during any past exercise, but suddenly they used in Garuda 2010, these IAF officials are professionals and they would never done this without any solid reason, IAF officials know what they are doing so their is nothing to worry abt..

Besides its obvious we used old bars for BVR use to gain quality knowledge and tactic during this awesome exercise..
The N011M is the best radar IAF has right now and will be until MRCA AESA. I think IAF felt comfortable using it knowing USAF was not there to sniff them out.
 

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The N011M is the best radar IAF has right now and will be until MRCA AESA. I think IAF felt comfortable using it knowing USAF was not there to sniff them out.
Yeah but the French have aircraft that are made to sniff signals out in the air also just like America does. The French have been accused (by US airmen) of trying to get signals from American and Indian aircraft during the Red Flag exercises in Nevada. I'm surprised that India used their radars even when Russia have said that they don't want their radars operating when doing exercises with other countries. I'm going to look more into this.
 

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Yeah but the French have aircraft that are made to sniff signals out in the air also just like America does. The French have been accused (by US airmen) of trying to get signals from American and Indian aircraft during the Red Flag exercises in Nevada. I'm surprised that India used their radars even when Russia have said that they don't want their radars operating when doing exercises with other countries. I'm going to look more into this.
Of course we sniffed your emissions, but we aren't the US. Our threat library is classified for the highest bidder, and I must say it is probably the most comprehensive to date.
 

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Of course we sniffed your emissions, but we aren't the US. Our threat library is classified for the highest bidder, and I must say it is probably the most comprehensive to date.
Well I am starting to wonder how important these radar emissions are to countries. Because India does own Mirage 2000, and we could potentially get the Rafale (with full TOT) so I don't think it's as detrimental to any country if we know what the frequencies are.
 

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