Indo-China War Rhetoric

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Remember how Russia came to be a superpower after ww2, this will be the Chinese communists Stalingrad ,and history does repeat.

i feel india will need to even further stenghten AP ,now that pakistan is concentrating on its own internal threats.china can not rely on them to tie india up in the west,so they are talking tough.
regarding in the border talks,we all know its a fruitless dialogue.but as long as we still talk it buys us time so we can modernise our armed forces to deal with them later..
 

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China is highly ambitious, add to the fact that they overestimate their capabilites, their reverser enginnered weapon system and their own general public accepts the official line that they are future sole superpower.

China for long time has tried to teach lesson and humiliate it, so that their reputation in the world increase. Present intrusions are part of this plan and nothing else.

For china it is merely to grab land, which belong to India...........

One the other hand, India will put all force to repulse any Chines attack, that just might involve use of nukes test to deter China.
 

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I dont understand what make china to bring the war against india, For AP? i dont think, just land of soil is much more worthy than the lives of chinese forces. but if they think it so, bring it on.
they are trying to send message indirectly to Dalia Lama by engaging india with its proxy pakistan and now by them self. AP is just an excuse. Tibet is china's *** ache.
 

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that just might involve use of nukes test to deter China.
:rofl:

You think that will solve things?
Delusion.

The most probable situation is a Chinese soldier emptying bladder across the border and making the snow go yellow. India will over react and all you happy war mongers will have you day.

Reality lots of saber rattling. Lots of talks going no where.

If China is smart they will provide the necessary goad for India to start the shooting contest.

The Indian govt has shown poor judgment juts hope it wakes up in time to avert any conflict.
 

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India and China never had a normal relation in the past. There is no hope that the situation will improve in future. No matter what China feels and what it does; India is an emerging World Power and no one can stop India. China will never want to share it border with a world power.

Because of the hostile terrain there is less chance of a full scale war between India and China. China is testing India’s reaction by these frequent intrusions in recent months. So India must respond in an aggressive manner. Our political leader must not ignore these intrusions in recent months like they did in the past. What we need to do:-

1. Put some of our best air defense system in Ladakh, Arunanchal Pradesh and Sikkim. Shoot down Chinese chopper and aircraft that violates our air space.
2. Move a Brigade level force of India Army to both AP and Sikkim.
3. Must have at least a Squadron of SU-30MKI in tezpur base in Assam.
4. Must acquire some attack helicopters and deploy them in Ladakh, AP, and Sikkim.
5. As it had already reported India has deployed T-72 in Sikkim. This is a good move.
6. I don’t know how many missile base we have in North East. Till Agni-5 is not ready for deployment India must deploy Agni-3 in its missile base in North East. So that in a time of conflict our missile can cover major Chinese cities.
 

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They will fall again like USSR..... It is like China taking sand and put it in its head.

Do US and other permenent members of Security Council is going to let china attack India? I don't think so.... It will be a nuclear holocast.
The fall of USSR requires more thorough study than presumptions. In so far, we can only say that it was mismanaged at points in time.
 

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We must deploy enough force in north-east so that we dont have to depend on reinforcement from other parts of the country . Owing to the difficult landscape and a narrow Shiliguri corridor it might cost us in time of necessity. Existing troops must be made familiarised with the landscape as it will be of great help in time of real war rather than reinforced troops which are completely unknown to the terrain.

We must not put blind faith on Bangladesh and Mayanmar as these countries have already allowed China to build bases. Incase of war hostile attitude of them will go against us.(We can not be sure Sk Hasina who is much friendly to India will always be in power)......As an example if war breaks out and we have to check chinese navy we might need to attack Chinease base in Mayanmar. Now how Mayanmar will react we dont know. May be they will accumulate enough courage (of course having China with them) to go for an adventure against India. Honestly saying it will be a very challenging situation for our Army in ill-connected north-east. So we must prepare for something more that is required to fend off China alone.
 

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The real Han China is East of this red line. First occupying Tibel illegally and then trying to occupy other areas because they were supposedly part of Tibet for some time makes sense for only Chinese.



Th Norrh and West of this red line are buffer regions, not Chinese lands!

The borders of many countries have always been in flux. Now the time has come to be satisfied with what you have, not always keep pushing for more!

Check out where the great wall of China was constructed, that is the real boundary of China, not the current unnatural one.

China is not our neighbor, Tibet is. You have occupied a natural buffer between us.
 

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maybe you should tell Russia to hand Siberia out ,tell European descendants to return America and Australia to local natives?
 

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The natives of those places would do that if they have issues.

Here it is impacting us!
 

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The way to put an abrupt stop to CHina's swollen-headed belligerence is to stop playig with stupid ideas of nuclear NFU and like Israel show our eastern neighbour that WE WILL NUKE ...... cross the line and NUKES FLY. Of course that needs a strong backbone in the poilitical and miltary .
Of course China will retaliate but shanghai, honkong, beiging, shenzen special manufacturing zones etc will all be destroyed and their dreams of catching up with the west can take a hit ....forget about that for the next 50 years at least. ...back to the stone age
 

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The way to put an abrupt stop to CHina's swollen-headed belligerence is to stop playig with stupid ideas of nuclear NFU and like Israel show our eastern neighbour that WE WILL NUKE ...... cross the line and NUKES FLY. Of course that needs a strong backbone in the poilitical and miltary .
Of course China will retaliate but shanghai, honkong, beiging, shenzen special manufacturing zones etc will all be destroyed and their dreams of catching up with the west can take a hit ....forget about that for the next 50 years at least. ...back to the stone age
where do you see india mate?
 

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That will be the time to catch a fast ride out of Delhi.....
 

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Sigh!!! I want to live till old age and see my kids grow up. India does not have any provocation to nuke china. NFU remains. Ours is not a first strike arsenel, neither is Chinas. We have been through all this before.
 

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I was listening to a discussion on an India news Channel. On the panel there was a former Brigadier of Indian Army. He was asked; whether India can defend itself against any attack from China? His answer was interesting. As per him, India is capable of defending itself from Chinese aggression but we lack in offensive capability. Though Chinese military is bigger than India but at the moment in terms of quality India has an edge over China in conventional weapon. But China is modernizing its defense forces and we need to keep pace with China. If we fail to do so in next 10 years the gape will be much larger.
 

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India is also on a modernization drive. Though the usual delays are there, but we getting there. The technical edge of india over china will remain as Chinese weaponry is largely made up of rip offs of Russian and Western systems. India has the original. India continues to have access to the latest technology, example being the MRCA deal where the best of the lot in its class is coming to us no matter who wins. If we get the Super Hornet which has a fat chance, then combined with our MKIs we have a qualitatively better AF than the Chinese who are making do with rip offs of US and Russian fighters.

In terms of access to latest weapons, India will always have the edge. Once the Russians get pissed off with the Chinese reverse engineering all its weapons and stops supplying them with weapons, the Chinese will not have any access to the latest tech which they can copy paste.

The Chinese around over here will give you all the BS about their R&D now, but the fact remains that their R&D is centered around the equipment they get from abroad.
 

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NSG,
India is also on a modernization drive. Though the usual delays are there, but we getting there. The technical edge of india over china will remain as Chinese weaponry is largely made up of rip offs of Russian and Western systems. India has the original. India continues to have access to the latest technology, example being the MRCA deal where the best of the lot in its class is coming to us no matter who wins. If we get the Super Hornet which has a fat chance, then combined with our MKIs we have a qualitatively better AF than the Chinese who are making do with rip offs of US and Russian fighters.

In terms of access to latest weapons, India will always have the edge. Once the Russians get pissed off with the Chinese reverse engineering all its weapons and stops supplying them with weapons, the Chinese will not have any access to the latest tech which they can copy paste.

The Chinese around over here will give you all the BS about their R&D now, but the fact remains that their R&D is centered around the equipment they get from abroad.
pls read the following article . india's troops equipment seems not as good as you said.
1 in 3 hand grenades is a dud: Defence survey - India - NEWS - The Times of India

1 in 3 hand grenades is a dud: Defence survey
Shishir Arya, TNN 7 September 2009, 12:25am IST
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NAGPUR: Imagine a scenario in which an Indian soldier's life and the life of his mates depends on a grenade — may be the last one with the jawan —
to stop an advancing enemy. He takes the pin out and lobs it. But, instead of hearing an explosion, the jawans are met with a hail of bullets
Defence expert Col (retd) U S Rathore says India still uses World War-II vintage hand grenades
 

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CHinese R & D should be re-named as P & P = pirate and paint.
ACtually i think they are itching to be itching.
My take is that China expected india to be a failed state decades ago , when they returned arunachal , they thought india would collapse and then they could simply walk in . that idea failed miserably and later they hoped that the indian economy would fail, and that also turned out to be a hugh disappointment . IN fact they were shocked that in spite of the system the indian economy grew prety well . What if india improves the system . So the chinese small-minded idea of one tiger per mountain ( you heard that silly idea ?? ) is now about to be chucked aside they cant stand the idea of someone else being almost equal to them .
Look at the chinese flag itself . It shows one big star and the others as being smaller, Sorry china those archaic ideas of yours , keep them to yourselves, the rest of the world is sniggering.
 

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