INS Vikrant Aircraft Carrier (IAC)

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The funny thing is that the title of the original picture in this tweet is:

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Laughs in Taylor Bow developed by Rear Adm. David.W. Taylor, USN in 1911. First seen on the old dreadnough battleship USS Delaware and then subsequently adopted on all new Cruiser, Battleship and Aircraft carrier designs, the Taylor bow was just a bulbous kink at the base of the stem of the ship and designed to reduce wave drag at flank speeds only. More pronounced bulbous stems were experimented by the Japanese using Taylor's designs as well resulting in the pronounced bulbous forefoot of the Yamato class battleships but Bulbous bows in their definitive form only appeared in the 60's and 70's with the concept being perfected in the 80's and 90's through CFD and better Model basin test methods. Also the reason why until USS Ronald Reagan, all USN CVN's had just a bulbous forefoot rather than a full bulbous bow.
 

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Ya'll Nibbiars any answers?.

Main rebuttal to that tweet is: the Sea is obviously not "calm". Just because there are no white caps on those waves does not mean there aren't significant swells.

Its a silly nitpick that I believe was repeatedly countered on his Twitter thread. Nothing conclusive can be drawn from that video.
 

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It has been reported that Crows nest's performance during HMS QE's deployment to the Indo-Pacofic was sh*t based on deployment/sortie generation rates.

But I guess a significant contribution from a third Party Partner Navy like the IN might increase R&D budgets and refine improved variations of the platform.

Might even be an export success to other Asia Pacific Navies pursuing small to medium STOVL carriers like the ROKN, JMSDF and the Australian Navy (might even be facilitated by that new AUKUS partnership🤷🏾‍♂️).

If the Merlin consortium were to pursue QUAD navies with development proposals, I'm sure they'd boost their prospects for the Crows Nest platform
 

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It has been reported that Crows nest's performance during HMS QE's deployment to the Indo-Pacofic was sh*t based on deployment/sortie generation rates.

But I guess a significant contribution from a third Party Partner Navy like the IN might increase R&D budgets and refine improved variations of the platform.

Might even be an export success to other Asia Pacific Navies pursuing small to medium STOVL carriers like the ROKN, JMSDF and the Australian Navy (might even be facilitated by that new AUKUS partnership🤷🏾‍♂️).

If the Merlin consortium were to pursue QUAD navies with development proposals, I'm sure they'd boost their prospects for the Crows Nest platform
Crowsnest is just the radar, no reason it can't be put on the MH-60 or IMRH


That said what requirement does the IN have for it? They have a surplus of Ka-31 AEWs as it is
 

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Crowsnest is just the radar, no reason it can't be put on the MH-60 or IMRH


That said what requirement does the IN have for it? They have a surplus of Ka-31 AEWs as it is
Merlin is a three engine platform capable of carrying larger weight sensors with significantly longer loiter time.

Ka-31 is an MH60 equivalent. Merlin would be an upgrade over both as an AEW platform.

As a counter point, note that the PLAN also operates the Ka-31 but opted for a new AEW solution based on the larger, 3 engined Z18 for their STOVL carriers and LHDs. Not saying PLA decision making is the end all be all, but it does signify superior capability inherent to a larger platform.
 

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Merlin is a three engine platform capable of carrying larger weight sensors with significantly longer loiter time.

Ka-31 is an MH60 equivalent. Merlin would be an upgrade over both as an AEW platform.

As a counter point, note that the PLAN also operates the Ka-31 but opted for a new AEW solution based on the larger, 3 engined Z18 for their STOVL carriers and LHDs. Not saying PLA decision making is the end all be all, but it does signify superior capability inherent to a larger platform.
It's overspec'd, this is the opinion of it from a former AW-101 pilot who flew it in the RAF and now flies S-92 for Bristow for offshore operations. The third engine is not really much of a benefit in most operations

The MH-60R has the best ASW package on the planet

So when the IN is inducting new Ka-31s at a high cost there's almost no argument for going for the Crownest just because


The PLAN may have plenty of other reasons to go for their Z18 AEW solution.
 

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Merlin is a three engine platform capable of carrying larger weight sensors with significantly longer loiter time.

Ka-31 is an MH60 equivalent. Merlin would be an upgrade over both as an AEW platform.

As a counter point, note that the PLAN also operates the Ka-31 but opted for a new AEW solution based on the larger, 3 engined Z18 for their STOVL carriers and LHDs. Not saying PLA decision making is the end all be all, but it does signify superior capability inherent to a larger platform.
the number of the engines is not the key at all,the total engine power output is...obviously the russian engine has the higher unit power.

Ka-28/31 is considered as a 13-ton class platform, so is the Z-18, maybe we could mention Mi17 serial(2 engined ,also 13 ton class) here as well....the the MTOW is over 14.5 tons for AW-101

MH60 is the a 10-ton class one.
 

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It's overspec'd, this is the opinion of it from a former AW-101 pilot who flew it in the RAF and now flies S-92 for Bristow for offshore operations. The third engine is not really much of a benefit in most operations

The MH-60R has the best ASW package on the planet

So when the IN is inducting new Ka-31s at a high cost there's almost no argument for going for the Crownest just because


The PLAN may have plenty of other reasons to go for their Z18 AEW solution.
More engines would also mean more maintenance and greater turnaround time. Most likely, Navy will wait for IMRH based AEW for any acquisitions after the Ka-31.
 

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A question for the naval experts and enthusiasts here; Why is it that no country so far has considered a trimaran or catamaran configuration of aircraft carriers? I don't know much about hydrodynamics but it seems that these configurations allow more stability and prevent the ships from bobbing up and down due to the waves.

Wouldn't using such a design make sense for carriers that ideally would want stability for aircraft operations?
 

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A question for the naval experts and enthusiasts here; Why is it that no country so far has considered a trimaran or catamaran configuration of aircraft carriers? I don't know much about hydrodynamics but it seems that these configurations allow more stability and prevent the ships from bobbing up and down due to the waves.

Wouldn't using such a design make sense for carriers that ideally would want stability for aircraft operations?
I guess maybe volume needed in hull to store aircrafts, ammunitions, spares, personnel etc.
 

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