Indigenous Vikrant class Aircraft Carrier (IAC)

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But the last comment was fire though.
"Last time jab Indian navy war mei gayi thi to world map badal gaya tha."
Ya'll Nibbiars no way they can launch 60 missile at a single time. And even at a desperate situation they can at most could launch 30 missiles of which easily more than half would be intercepted the rest can be taken care by the CIWS and close range missiles. Hardly any sustainable damage will happen even if one or two missile passes the defence layers.

And that's not accounting the air assets and the warships.
 
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will fighter trials be part of this phase of sea trials or later?
 

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What are the chances the India government announcing another IAC-1 class carrier?
Zilch, the Navy has their eyes firmly set on IAC-2, they aren’t interested in STOBAR anymore.

India need atleast 5 aircraft carriers to become a military superpower. So that we can project our air power anywhere in the world within hours.
considering IAC-2 (at best) will be in service in the 2040s around the time Vikky is ready to be decommissioned let’s just wait and see how long it takes the IN to become a 3 carrier navy, I think that’s not going to happen for at least 25 years

It does boggle my mind how myopic Indian planners are, they have such low ambitions.

Since I doubt MoD is gonna move an inch on the 3rd carrier for now, why not allow our LHD Program to be handled by CSL. It'll atleast keep them busy for the time until momentum to design and construct IAC-II builds up. Just my 2 cents.
LHD offers what value to a navy that doesn’t have its own marine infantry and is struggling to find enough helos for ships with 2 hangers?
 

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Ya'll Nibbiars to the Paki Mullahs.

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Ye Kya hua, Kaise Hua, Kab Hua
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hooo ye kya hua, kaise hua, kab hua
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hamne jo, dekha tha suna tha, kya bataye vo kya tha
hamne jo, dekha tha suna tha, kya bataye vo kya tha
sapna salona tha, khatam to hona tha, hua
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kyu hua, jab hua, tab hua, o chhodo, ye na socho
hooo ye kya hua

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Ae Submarine's dube, chal pikar jhume, inhi galiyo me ghume
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Ya'll Nibbiars to the Paki Mullahs.

Ye kya hua, Kaise Hua, Kab Hua, ab Kya Sunaye
Ye Kya hua, Kaise Hua, Kab Hua
kyu hua, jab hua, tab hua, o chhodo, ye na socho
hooo ye kya hua, kaise hua, kab hua
kyu hua, jab hua, tab hua, o chhodo, ye na socho
hooo ye kya hua

Aap kyu shikva kare jhutha, kya hua jo Submarine's Dubi
Aap kyu shikva kare jhutha, kya hua jo Submarine's Dubi
shishe ka khilona tha, kuchh na kuchh to hona tha, hua
ye kya hua, kaise hua, kab hua
kyu hua, jab hua, tab hua, o chhodo, ye na socho
hooo ye kya hua, samjhe na

hamne jo, dekha tha suna tha, kya bataye vo kya tha
hamne jo, dekha tha suna tha, kya bataye vo kya tha
sapna salona tha, khatam to hona tha, hua
ye kya hua, kaise hua, kab hua
kyu hua, jab hua, tab hua, o chhodo, ye na socho
hooo ye kya hua

Ae Submarine's dune, chal pikar jhume, inhi galiyo me ghume
Ae Submarine's dube, chal pikar jhume, inhi galiyo me ghume
yaha tujhe khona tha, badnam hona tha, hua
ye kya hua, kaise hua, kab hua
kyu hua, jab hua, tab hua, o chhodo, ye na socho
hooo ye kya hua
Ae ki holo , kemon holo.
 

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Ae ki holo , kemon holo.
Ya'll Nibbiars

Hey La La Layyo Hey La La Layyo
Hey La La Layyo Hey La La Layyo
Submarine Dooba Submarine's Dooba Neeli Smaudra Teri Yeh Submarine's Dooba
Paki Mullah Paki Mullah Bas Yeh Jaanle Paki Mullah
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Paki Mullah Paki Mullah Bas Yeh Jaanle Paki Mullah
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Aap Mleechas ke liye Jeeta hai aur Mleecha ke Liye Hi Mar Jaate hai.
 

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LHD offers what value to a navy that doesn’t have its own marine infantry and is struggling to find enough helos for ships with 2 hangers?
Helos for shore support, ASW, Anti-Piracy as well as VERTREP ops, aside from the ability to carry men and armour to storm a beachhead as usual. LHD is more about Amphibious ops and we need one as well.
 

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I am all for ordering a squadron or two of N-LCA for shore based and some carrier based operations. Don't think these Mig-29K's will last a decade between two carriers.
If new aircraft aren't ordered, these will have the same fate as the harriers
 

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I am all for ordering a squadron or two of N-LCA for shore based and some carrier based operations. Don't think these Mig-29K's will last a decade between two carriers.
Absolutely what I was thinking
But it has limited range and payload,
Two engined fighters are generally preferred for this role
If it were to happen, then N-LCA would be the one of the only single engined fighter along with F35 in the world to get deployed on a frontline carrier
 
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Helos for shore support, ASW, Anti-Piracy as well as VERTREP ops, aside from the ability to carry men and armour to storm a beachhead as usual. LHD is more about Amphibious ops and we need one as well.
1) India doesn’t have a credible amphibious assault force
2) it doesn’t have the air assets to deploy on a LHD
3) all of the tasks mentioned above can be done by other surface vessels far more effectively, using a LHD for ASW? Absurd
 

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1) India doesn’t have a credible amphibious assault force
2) it doesn’t have the air assets to deploy on a LHD
3) all of the tasks mentioned above can be done by other surface vessels far more effectively, using a LHD for ASW? Absurd
1) China had none as well 30 years ago, today they're second only to the US. One does'nt need to spend years as well to acquire an LHD, just design one around the equipment it is supposed to carry or use an existing proven design and be content with it's limitations vis-a-vis your requirements, there is always a succeeding class in which you can incorporate your lessons.

2) Air assets can be acquired for deploying on a LHD, it does'nt always need to be just fixed wing aircraft. Somewhere everyone has to start. We will have to be content with Helo's until there is enough political and financial werewithal to develop fixed wing assets compatible with LHD's. Also, one can substitute manned fixed wing assets with UCAV's as well in the near future. It's possible that LHD's with UCAV's will soon be a norm 2-3 decades out rather than an exception.

3) Nope, in case of AmphibOps, each vessel has it's own specific function, like a team of specialists. You cannot expect a LST to be a LHD or a LPD to be a LST, or an LCAC to do the job of an AAV etc. And seems like you misconstrued my original statement about Helo's for ASW instead as using LHD's for ASW. Nope, nobody uses an LHD for ASW, but you can have ASW Helo's on an LHD, no hard and fast rule that they don't have a place on a LHD. MH-60's are already doing it on American LHD's atleast.
 
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