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Yes, I think so.
Does the below paragraph mean 36 more Rafale over existing 36 or just bad google translation?

Thirty-six Dassault Aviation Rafale F4 fighter jets for the Indian Air Force is ultimately quite logical, especially as the two parties have negotiated that the contract is partly part of the " Make-in India ". There will therefore be a logical transfer of technology to Hindustan Aircraft Limited. Fighters who could then allow the slow but constant modernization of Indian aviation to continue. A few days ago, India ordered a little more than 80 indigenous Tejas fighters, these thirty-six Rafale F4s would thus complete the loop by ending the old Mikoyan-Gurevitch MiG-21 Fishbed and MiG-29 Fulcrum acquired over time. of the USSR.
 

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Does the below paragraph mean 36 more Rafale over existing 36 or just bad google translation?
Globally YES. France has made a proposal for 36 more new Rafale F4 (the fastest delivery in case of a 2021 order is for 2024, so fully compliant with F4 standard). And as said by Trappier for years, any next order will see a make in India initiative thanks to the factory built in India (for Dassault - Reliance, for Thales...)
We all know that the Indian content may be different in case of a 36 units order or in case of a 100+ order....
The sole strange information is : "transfer of technology to Hindustan Aircraft Limited". To Reliance is more likely.
 

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Globally YES. France has made a proposal for 36 more new Rafale F4 (the fastest delivery in case of a 2021 order is for 2024, so fully compliant with F4 standard). And as said by Trappier for years, any next order will see a make in India initiative thanks to the factory built in India (for Dassault - Reliance, for Thales...)
We all know that the Indian content may be different in case of a 36 units order or in case of a 100+ order....
The sole strange information is : "transfer of technology to Hindustan Aircraft Limited". To Reliance is more likely.
36 Rafale and 6 MRTT lease is making sense, can you elaborate on the 111 panther helos part of % billion euro deal?
 

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Globally YES. France has made a proposal for 36 more new Rafale F4 (the fastest delivery in case of a 2021 order is for 2024, so fully compliant with F4 standard). And as said by Trappier for years, any next order will see a make in India initiative thanks to the factory built in India (for Dassault - Reliance, for Thales...)
We all know that the Indian content may be different in case of a 36 units order or in case of a 100+ order....
The sole strange information is : "transfer of technology to Hindustan Aircraft Limited". To Reliance is more likely.
Ambani is bankrupt. DRAL will most likely be sold to some other co or maybe HAL or gov will buy a stake in it?!
Either way keeping Reliance in the deal was a mistake
 

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36 Rafale and 6 MRTT lease is making sense, can you elaborate on the 111 panther helos part of % billion euro deal?
Dry price of the Rafale (i France, including VAT) : in the 100€ million.
Remove the VAT (because no VAT for export) : 80€million.
It is said that producting in India (not in HAL...) will be 15 to 20% cheaper : 65€ million nearly.
36 x 65€ million = 2.34€ Md

No need to add some more money for indian customisation (already paid) nor air base accomodation (2 air base is largely enough for 72 birds. Even for 90...).

Maybe some more money for support.

I don't know what is the cost of Panther helo. But there is some margin between 2.8€$ Md and 5€ Md for Tanker, Helo, some weapons.... so the figure seems ambitious but not so.
 

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French will suck our bones dry for a decade or so it seems...
Pathetic India the oldest civilization is in decline for 1000 years or so and we are dependent on a country as small as one of our medium size state for our security and also political needs in UN...
 

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French will suck our bones dry for a decade or so it seems...
Pathetic India the oldest civilization is in decline for 1000 years or so and we are dependent on a country as small as one of our medium size state for our security and also political needs in UN...
Size doesn't matter (ask your wife !). Quality is the real asset.
 

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