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No, it's for 20 (or 25 if luck is better) destroyers.IN must have some 30 destroyers.
It seems we have plan for only some dozen destroyer.
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No, it's for 20 (or 25 if luck is better) destroyers.IN must have some 30 destroyers.
It seems we have plan for only some dozen destroyer.
this is what an integrated mast looks like -Can you post details of Project 18??
Actually he is talking about his observation pointing both good and bad aspects. Considering the costs it is a decent system but not state of art or top of the line..This destroyer can fry porky surface ships but sub surface war machines will be difficult to manage.. and we stand no chance against modern destroyers.I love vodka and garlic pickles
AFAIK the Russian only provided consultancy wrt the mast design and it's related cooling systems.
Can't figure out whether the author of the above was actually shitting or praising p15b.
Maybe both, that too without having access to relevant facts regarding the ship and it's systems.
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I am against all sorts of comparisons because of the simple reason that unless you are the end user of the concerned systems you are trying to compare, you don't have the necessary data to do justice to either of the system's.Actually he is talking about his observation pointing both good and bad aspects. Considering the costs it is a decent system but not state of art or top of the line..This destroyer can fry porky surface ships but sub surface war machines will be difficult to manage.. and we stand no chance against modern destroyers.
So I posted it for experts to discuss on systems and we gain some knowledge on it. This ship is supposed to be weapon loaded in comming months.
Article is basically a butthurt ruski trying to glory-steal P-15 designers while being extremely salty.Russia helped India build a destroyer
March 19, 2018
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The SRGM is not installed yet. Good to hear that they finally made the decision to get it from BAE.Any update on the first ship? Should have been in Sea trials by now.
Firstly the P15B was designed for a 127 mm gun. Intially Otomelara 127/64 mm was chosen but deal got into limbo because of blacklisting in 2016. Only other manufacturer of 127 mm gun is BaE with their 127/62 mm gun.So let me get it straight. China started the construction of a 60,000 Tons Carrier in 2013 and got it working for sea trials in 2018.
India started the construction of a 8000 tons Destroyer in 2013, hoping to commission it in 2018 and in 2018 they "Clear the deal" for a CIWS?
Is it just me, or does anyone else feel like they purposely delay these projects to escalate the cost and put some of em in their own pockets?
We learn it hard way, be it India, Russia, US or UK.So let me get it straight. China started the construction of a 60,000 Tons Carrier in 2013 and got it working for sea trials in 2018.
India started the construction of a 8000 tons Destroyer in 2013, hoping to commission it in 2018 and in 2018 they "Clear the deal" for a CIWS?
Is it just me, or does anyone else feel like they purposely delay these projects to escalate the cost and put some of em in their own pockets?
YOU JUST SEE COMMENT SECTION THERE LOTS OF BUTTHURT RUSKIES LOL SO FUNNYArticle is basically a butthurt ruski trying to glory-steal P-15 designers while being extremely salty.
It's like an American saying "America helped Russia build a modern passenger airliner" while referring to Irkut MC-21, when in reality all that the Americans (Rockwell-Collins and Pratt&Whitney) did was designed its flight-deck and supplied an engine option foreign customers (if any) would actually choose (PW1400G), over the relatively unknown Aviadvigatels.
P-17 yes but there is nothing new about the P-15 hull, in fact the P-15B (even if more are ordered) will be the last to use the P-15's hull design, the P-16/18 NG-DDGs will have a brand new and all Indian hull design (like P-17 did) that will likely exceed 10,000 tons.The P15, P17 series is a new template
I sincerely hope you are right about the 2019 commissioning. However, back in the early 21st century, China was commissioning those Type052C Destroyers within 3 years of starting construction.Firstly the P15B was designed for a 127 mm gun. Intially Otomelara 127/64 mm was chosen but deal got into limbo because of blacklisting in 2016. Only other manufacturer of 127 mm gun is BaE with their 127/62 mm gun.
BaE wasn't selling India gun until Trump came and used GPL treatment. Now we have deal signed, CCS will sign and ship will be inducted in 2019.
P 17A class also uses 127mm gun. The P15, P17 series is a new template on which new destroyers and frigates will be made. Even our NGMV is a light Frigate design sold as a Corvettes with 76 mm gun.
We are in terms of shipbuilding where China was in 2007/2008. So strap on your helmet and hunker down.
You cant be saying like that. I remember how the Kolkata was rusting in the shipyard waters after launch between 2006-2013. 7 years! So they are not really "testing it" . They are just finding ways to not complete the ship.We learn it hard way, be it India, Russia, US or UK.
China is new kid on the block, he has not much experience of navy, they are not checking systems up to its total points. Its easy to have all the fancy stuff in single boat and think that when you needed all will work perfectly.
It does not happen in that way. All 4 in first line learned it hard way (as told by experienced ex-naval person from our group).
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Military Review ● Armament ● Navy
Russia helped India build a destroyer
March 19, 2018
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