India's Future Main Battle Tank, NGMBT

[Kunal Biswas]

I read specs not interview, Their are none other than this hence its the latest known specs on web from horse mouth ..

The following specs are more of a technology demonstrator than prototype of MBT ..

That interview is not very recent . I think DRDO is developing different components that may be used in a future tank ..

 

[sabari]

I think that Indian army futer tank should be 2 crue . with both seating in front only the crue compartment and turrent front is protected by kanchan armor rest of it should be protected with explosive reactive armor.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

IDN TAKE: CVRDE's Future Main Battle Tank

Simulated Imagery [/OLOR]
Combat Vehicles Research and Development Establishment (CVRDE) a laboratory of the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) is in the process of developing a futuristic battle tank called Future Main Battle Tank (FMBT) with the latest technologies that would trace an incoming
missile from an enemy and retaliate with its own missiles combining passive and active protection systems.
Though the Arjun MBT faced teething problems during its evolution as a credible battle platform, the DRDO was able to fix all issues by incorporating several sate-of-the-art technologies which improved its readiness rate. The Mk1 during its protracted competitive trails outran and out gunned the T-90 (14 of each tanks were used) on several parameters. In 2013 even a Chinese military website Mil.news.sina.com.cn rated Arjun as one of the 10 best tanks in the world. The Mk2 weighs less than 50 tons and has 93 improvements over the Mk1, and includes nearly 60 percent indigenous components. The
experience gained from Mk1 has been fully utilized resulting in a more capable Mk2.
Having eventually tasted success with the Arjun Mk2 Main Battle Tank (MBT) with its rather harried acceptance by the army, CVRDE has embarked on
a mission to develop a FMBT that would come with active protection system to safeguard the tank from Fin Stabilized Armour Piercing Discarding Sabot (FSAPDS) ammunition, the most lethal
kinetic energy ammunition, capable of destroying all known tank armor FSAPDS travels at a speed of over 1,700 meters per second and no country in the world has developed technology to protect their tanks from such a lethal kinetic energy force.
The indigenous Kanchan armor used in Mk1 has been able to take the brunt of high precision and deadly Israeli anti tank munitions during tests.
Israel, Russia, Germany and Sweden have
developed technology for ammunition that travels at 1,000 metres per second and India will be the first country to work on kinetic energy threats.
CVRDE has already incorporated soft-kill
technology (passive protection) in India's Arjun Mk2 MBT, which means that if the enemy fires a missile using an infrared weapon, soft-kill passive technology in Arjun Mk2 would jam the infrared rays thus eliminating the enemy projectile from destroying the asset.
Secondly, if the enemy fires a laser guided missile or a beam rider missile (BRM), in such cases the futuristic MBT will have laser sensors, which will identify whether it is fired from laser guided machine or BRM. The active protection system would launch grenades, which will generate smoke.
By this process, the MBT remains hidden and the tank would retaliate at the enemy by launching its own missiles. The new tank configuration will combine both Active & Passive protection system.
It is learnt that both these technologies have since been realized by DRDO.
Thus, Arjun's development marks the fruition of 35 years of research in self-reliance by dedicated Indian scientists against all odds. Today, Arjun Mk2 is provided with excellent mobility, superior fire power, nearly impregnable armor protection and its overall features are comparable to best of contemporary world tanks. The Kanchan armor, hydro-pneumatic suspension, armament system, integrated fire detection & suppression system, composite engineering and system integration of complex weapon platforms are some of the significant indigenous technologies developed by DRDO.
It should be noted that the government has already allocated funds to the DRDO for the development of the FMBT.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

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[rohit b3]

IDN TAKE: CVRDE's Future Main Battle Tank

Simulated Imagery [/OLOR]
Combat Vehicles Research and Development Establishment (CVRDE) a laboratory of the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) is in the process of developing a futuristic battle tank called Future Main Battle Tank (FMBT) with the latest technologies that would trace an incoming
missile from an enemy and retaliate with its own missiles combining passive and active protection systems.
Though the Arjun MBT faced teething problems during its evolution as a credible battle platform, the DRDO was able to fix all issues by incorporating several sate-of-the-art technologies which improved its readiness rate. The Mk1 during its protracted competitive trails outran and out gunned the T-90 (14 of each tanks were used) on several parameters. In 2013 even a Chinese military website Mil.news.sina.com.cn rated Arjun as one of the 10 best tanks in the world. The Mk2 weighs less than 50 tons and has 93 improvements over the Mk1, and includes nearly 60 percent indigenous components. The
experience gained from Mk1 has been fully utilized resulting in a more capable Mk2.
Having eventually tasted success with the Arjun Mk2 Main Battle Tank (MBT) with its rather harried acceptance by the army, CVRDE has embarked on
a mission to develop a FMBT that would come with active protection system to safeguard the tank from Fin Stabilized Armour Piercing Discarding Sabot (FSAPDS) ammunition, the most lethal
kinetic energy ammunition, capable of destroying all known tank armor FSAPDS travels at a speed of over 1,700 meters per second and no country in the world has developed technology to protect their tanks from such a lethal kinetic energy force.
The indigenous Kanchan armor used in Mk1 has been able to take the brunt of high precision and deadly Israeli anti tank munitions during tests.
Israel, Russia, Germany and Sweden have
developed technology for ammunition that travels at 1,000 metres per second and India will be the first country to work on kinetic energy threats.
CVRDE has already incorporated soft-kill
technology (passive protection) in India's Arjun Mk2 MBT, which means that if the enemy fires a missile using an infrared weapon, soft-kill passive technology in Arjun Mk2 would jam the infrared rays thus eliminating the enemy projectile from destroying the asset.
Secondly, if the enemy fires a laser guided missile or a beam rider missile (BRM), in such cases the futuristic MBT will have laser sensors, which will identify whether it is fired from laser guided machine or BRM. The active protection system would launch grenades, which will generate smoke.
By this process, the MBT remains hidden and the tank would retaliate at the enemy by launching its own missiles. The new tank configuration will combine both Active & Passive protection system.
It is learnt that both these technologies have since been realized by DRDO.
Thus, Arjun's development marks the fruition of 35 years of research in self-reliance by dedicated Indian scientists against all odds. Today, Arjun Mk2 is provided with excellent mobility, superior fire power, nearly impregnable armor protection and its overall features are comparable to best of contemporary world tanks. The Kanchan armor, hydro-pneumatic suspension, armament system, integrated fire detection & suppression system, composite engineering and system integration of complex weapon platforms are some of the significant indigenous technologies developed by DRDO.
It should be noted that the government has already allocated funds to the DRDO for the development of the FMBT.

Every time they keep mentioning that the Arjun mk2 weighs less than 50 tons, the whole article looses its credibility.

 

[boreas]

any recent updates about FMBT?

 

[Indx TechStyle]

any recent updates about FMBT?

India's Future Main Battle Tank Will Come Without Life-Saving 'Active Protection System'
Written by Vishnu Som | Updated: Dec 22, 2016 19:26 IST

India has ordered 464 T-90MS 'Tagil' main battle tanks
Story Highlights

• The T-90MS 'Tagil' will not be equipped with modern active armour systems
• Active armour tanks detect launch of hostile missiles and tank shells
• At the moment, no Indian Army tank has an active armour system

New Delhi: India's future main battle tank, the T-90MS 'Tagil', which will be license manufactured in Avadi in Chennai, will not be equipped with new-generation active protection systems that destroy incoming missiles and shells before they can hit the tank. Active protection systems have saved the lives of dozens of tank crew deployed in Israeli combat operations in Gaza and have now been deployed by the Russian Army in operations in Syria.

For decades, tanks have depended on their armour to protect their crew from enemy shells and anti-tank guided missiles. However, the singular vulnerability of modern tanks to the latest anti-tank guided missiles in the ongoing Iraq and Syria conflicts have raised serious question marks on the ability of armour alone to prevent casualties among tank crews.

Active protection systems are meant to counter this threat. Radars fitted on tanks detect the launch of hostile missiles and tank shells, predict their incoming trajectory and launch guided ammunition that can destroy or deflect hostile projectiles upto 50 metres away from the tank. The ensuing blast destroys the enemy missile, rocket propelled grenade or shell before it can pierce the armour of the tank.

T-90 tank fitted with Arena Active Protection System

NDTV has learned that the Russian 'Arena' active protection system and the Israeli 'Trophy' system were both being considered for the Indian Army's new T-90MS tanks based on the formidable reputation they have earned during combat. However, the 'Arena' system was withdrawn from the competition at the technical evaluation stage prior to field trials being held because it did not meet the technical criterion spelt out by the Indian Army.

The withdrawal of the 'Arena' resulted in a single-vendor situation with only the Israeli 'Trophy' remaining in the race. This is a scenario the government looks to avoid in major defence purchases since it no longer has the ability to choose the least expensive system among the shortlisted options available. Accordingly, in late October this year, the Defence Acquisition Committee rejected the import of all active protection systems. These were likely to have cost approximately Rs 2 crore per tank. Now, the government has ordered a feasibility study to see if the systems can be developed in the country under the government's flagship 'Make in India' programme which may involve a joint venture with a foreign firm.

Israeli Trophy Active Protection System mounted on Israeli Army Merkava IV tank

The delay in the acquisition of active defence systems for its tanks is a cause of concern for the Indian Army. Videos of the conflict in Syria and Iraq uploaded by rebel fighters on YouTube clearly show modern American-built M1 A1 'Abrams' and German designed Leopard 2A4 tanks being destroyed by Russian or American anti-tank guided missiles which have been supplied to rebel fighters. According to the website 'War is Boring' which has monitored the conflict in Syria, "There's no fewer than 1,800 T-55, T-62 and T-72 tanks plus BMP fighting vehicles exploded, burned, disabled or seized by rebels - with potentially thousands of crewmen also being killed injured or captured."

In November, the government cleared a Rs 13,448 crore deal to acquire 464 brand-new T-90MS 'Tagil' tanks. India already operates more than 800 T-90S tanks first delivered by Russia in 2001. These are considerably less capable than the T-90MS which has now been ordered. All T-90s form the cutting edge of the Indian Army's armoured formations and would be an integral part of any offensive across Punjab and Rajasthan in the event of war with Pakistan. At the moment, no tank in Indian Army service has an active protection system.

 

[sthf]

Makes sense, the fatigue wearing babus and their civilian counterparts sitting in the cosy Sena Bhawan are not the most proactive people around.

 

[rone]

utter wrong indian T90s have active protection..n April 2008, the Indian Army sent a request for proposal to Rafael, BAE Systems, Raytheon, Rosoboronexport, Saab, and IBD Deisenroth Engineering for an active protection system for the T-90S Bhishma.[23] The contract is expected to be worth US$270 million. Saab's LEDS-150 won the contract in January 2009

 

[kunal1123]

DRDO outlines future MBT requirements
http://idrw.org/drdo-outlines-future-mbt-requirements/

 

[Aditya Prakash]

RIP Arjun Tank

Almost seems like a sales pitch for the Armata! 125mm Canon, unmanned turret, 3 man crew et Al..

 

[Bahamut]

RIP Arjun Tank

Almost seems like a sales pitch for the Armata! 125mm Canon, unmanned turret, 3 man crew et Al..

This tank will be a new design but will copy some concept of Armata which changes how tank is used. Anti tank weapons have evolved, the tank need to do the same plus we can overtake the Chinese on Armour technology if this project is successful.

 

[tharun]

RIP Arjun Tank

Almost seems like a sales pitch for the Armata! 125mm Canon, unmanned turret, 3 man crew et Al..

New moron to our forum.......Welcome to forum
Armata will replace t-72 & likely t-90's under FMBT not Arjun's...Arjun is different category

 

[Aditya Prakash]

New moron to our forum.......Welcome to forum
Armata will replace t-72 & likely t-90's under FMBT not Arjun's...Arjun is different category

Moron?
All merits of the Arjun 1/2 aside, when has the Army been enthusiast about it? In fact, the FMBT requirement promulgated under Dalip Bhardwaj was itself quite a ploy to derail the Arjun (given that the Army couldn't publish a GSQR at that time). Now that the FMBT will probably take shape, I don't expect the Army to order anymore Arjuns beyond the 118 Mk2. Or if you are in the know of something more, pls share.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Best not use cheap words, Its indeed how things are building up in east, specially Ukranians and Russians ..

New moron to our forum.......Welcome to forum
Armata will replace t-72 & likely t-90's under FMBT not Arjun's...Arjun is different category

RIP Arjun Tank

Almost seems like a sales pitch for the Armata! 125mm Canon, unmanned turret, 3 man crew et Al..

Moron?
All merits of the Arjun 1/2 aside, when has the Army been enthusiast about it? In fact, the FMBT requirement promulgated under Dalip Bhardwaj was itself quite a ploy to derail the Arjun (given that the Army couldn't publish a GSQR at that time). Now that the FMBT will probably take shape, I don't expect the Army to order anymore Arjuns beyond the 118 Mk2. Or if you are in the know of something more, pls share.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

These people are betting on an unproven technology, The Arjun story will be repeated for FMBT as well as the requirement will change too fast after what foreigners are doing ..

The Armata system is being pushed into Russian service as a PR for sale sake, The tank is yet to clear many trails and the gun will also change in time so does the turret design to accommodate it ..

Countries like US had such design back but never put time in practice for obvious reasons, Its expensive and complex design,Unmanned design on MBTs are not yet seen active service leave alone combat, It will take decades to improve this system ..

In mean time, Arjun MK2 could fill up the space, But its highly unlikely to happen with current DGMF ..

 

[Aditya Prakash]

These people are betting on an unproven technology, The Arjun story will be repeated for FMBT as well as the requirement will change too fast after what foreigners are doing ....

In mean time, Arjun MK2 could fill up the space, But its highly unlikely to happen with current DGMF ..

Can anyone shed light on the automotive layout of the FMBT? Will they stick with the Arjun chassis with 7 roadwheels or will it be the lesser 6 wheel layout. I ask, because of the distinct possibility of developing a larger gun system, given that Rheinmetall has already displayed a 130mm tank gun and the Armata is poised to eventually get a 140mm main gun. Le 6 or lesser roadwheels may not be able to adequately absorb the gun recoil, without reliability issues for the suspension. Moreover that Arjun chassis has a lot of real estate for future gadgetry needs. BTW has the army issued a GSQR for FMBT or was it just a science lecture from DRDO?

 

[Kunal Biswas]

FMBT is not anywhere in next 20 years, A lot will change in next 20 years and not anytime soon ..

 

[Kay]

FMBT is not anywhere in next 20 years, A lot will change in next 20 years and not anytime soon ..

The requirements for FMBT will likely get revised frequently as in the case of Arjun - expect everything from unmanned turret of to 130 mm gun ( like in Leopard 3).

 

[Vinod DX9]

FMBT designs ...by DRDO ,preliminary
Hope they make a better in the

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