India's first line of defence - RAW

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Operation Eagle — The 1971 mission by RAW and Tibetan SFF that has no official record



From his office in Delhi, R.N. Kao strategised with Brig. Sujan Singh Uban of the SFF. The force had been placed under the direct command of the R&AW for missions precisely like the one Kao was now telling Uban to execute.


‘Uban, sabotage and harass them. Get into their heads. Destroy what you can. Bring back the Chittagong Hill Tracts.’

While R&AW and the Indian Army strategised their moves in India, Yahya Khan seemed to be whiling away his time in Karachi. It was reported that Khan was making the legendary Pakistani singer Noor Jehan sing for him on long-distance phone calls from Japan. As she crooned beautiful songs to the president, Yahya Khan would interrupt to shower praises on her. A war had broken out, but Yahya Khan had chosen to cocoon himself in the company of women and wine rather than lead his men in the war that he had begun.


 

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unsung heroes, you never know the person u curse the most might be working for us behind the enemy lines or in cover (e.g. imagine barkha as a RAW agent getting abused daily by RW)
What benefit would someone like Burqa Dutt give RAW? The woman has been a jinx on our troops; she televised Kargil War, giving away our troops' positions; she and her crew did the same on 26/11; every time she visits a military-related installations there are some attacks that happen either before or after it.

If anything, she and her kind hiding as foreign agents in Indian media need to be taken out by RAW.
 

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Lifestyle of RAW agents: Training, Recruitment & Salary
Mar 25, 2019, Shikha Goyal


When we think about the Lifestyle of RAW agents or a Secret Intelligence Field Agents, James Bond movie strikes our mind and we imagine or dreams about the action, investigations, conspiracy plots etc. but is it really true in real life. Is it happened like that only, or may be different. Even some secret Intelligence Services are desk bound jobs, paper work without any action but some may have exciting work, high risk, etc. They also sometimes work as a support job at our country’s Secret Intelligence Services like translation of Foreign languages, communication officers, call centre assistants, technicians, network specialists, recruitment officers etc.




Source: www.ste.india.com

Now we will see the life style of the RAW agents what all they do for us in the Job.

Lifestyle after becoming RAW agents
• They get opportunity to travel and foreign language proves them to be beneficiary. But this job may be a bit lonely one.


• They have to do lots of Research work pottering round and have to attend meetings.

• Sometimes during secret operations it may be risky. Their names are not revealed to anyone for the safety of the officers. Nobody has access of information about them.


• If RAW agents are exposed to anyone they have to stand firm as we all know pressure is everywhere in work the need is to survive and win in any situation.



A story of Ajit Kumar Doval, an IPS officer who rose to become the Intelligence Bureau director and also India’s National Security advisor once revealed his Pakistan mission. He was undercover there for 7 years. He sent vital information regarding their nuclear development. In Pakistan he used to go to Dargah being a Hindu as he doesn’t have to reveal his identity. He used to follow namaz and everything of their culture. After facing such situations he was successful in his mission and return back carefully.


They even can’t share their identity to their family and friends.

• They have to follow a lead, target, info, and report what it leads, who are involved and where it's happening.

• Sometimes they have to meet economically and morally corrupt officials and extract info from them.

• Life within HQ is safer but a lot critical. They are responsible for Intelligence failures or tragedies of fallout. Sometimes if their colleagues are arrested then they have to delete their records and don’t even acknowledge them.

• Even Government discarded them if they are arrested in an operation outside our country.

• When they die on duty they will not get military honours, medal but if they will be successful in completing their missions tthat means they have saved lots of lives in our country.

Top amazing facts about RAW

What type of a training they are provided with. Let us discuss about it.

Training of RAW agents



It lasts for couple of years. Basic training and advanced training are provided to them.

Basic Training lasts no longer than 10 days in which they get familiarised with the real world of espionage and of intelligence. Also, they give knowledge about the space technology, information security, energy security, scientific knowledge, financial, economic and geo strategic analysis. Even they have to read some case studies of other agencies like CIA, ISI, MI6 etc.

Advanced Training

Now after completing ‘Basic Training’ they are sent to Field Intelligence Bureau (FIB) which lasts for about 1 to 2 years where they are taught how to survive in cold areas, jungles etc and also how to manage secret operations. They are also taught infiltration and ex-filtration in realistic conditions and also how to avoid capture, if caught, how to face interrogation. They also supposed to learn the art of making contacts, skills for operating missions etc. And then finally they came back to the school for final polishing.

Do you know the purpose, qualities and eligibility essential for this job?

Purpose of RAW Agents
Espionage is the practice of spying or of using spies, typically by governments to obtain political and military information. Their purpose is to gather information about another country’s activities, protect citizens against secret and covert operations from other countries and internal sources, their military operations, personal information about politicians despite the severe consequences of being caught as a spy.

Qualities to be a RAW Agents



• From diverse cultures and backgrounds they should have the ability to interact effectively with people.

• Communication skills should be magnificent.

• Self- management skills with high level of maturity should be there so that they can give proper judgement according to the situation and the ability to assess the risks.

• Self- motivation, determination to achieve results in any pressure, situation and environment.

• Professionalism and high level of personal integrity should be there which also comes through tough training and development programs.

What is Surgical Strike?

Eligibility for working as a RAW Agents
• Should be a citizen of the country.

• Criminal back ground should not be there.

• Applicant should not be drug addicted.

• Should possess good education from reputed University and should also have a grasp on one foreign language at least.

• Applicant should be ready to travel in any part of the country with a short period of notice.

• Before applying this job don’t tell your friends or relatives.

• Applicant should be real what actually he is.

At the end we will see about the recruitment and salary of such brave soldiers.

Recruitment and Salary of RAW Agents


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Initially, RAW relied primarily on trained intelligence officers who were recruited directly. They belong to external wing of the Intelligence Bureau. After its role expands candidates are also recruited from the military, police and the Indian Revenue Service. Later, RAW started recruiting graduates from University. In 1983 RAW created its own service cadre, The Research and Analysis Service (RAS) to take candidate for Group A Civil Services under the Central Staffing Scheme. They have to clear all the stages of Civil Service Examination and few top candidates are allowed to write the RAW examination. They should also have an experience of 20 years of service. This is not a permanent job but a person can earn of about 0.8 to 1.3 lakhs per month.

Hats off to these brave soldiers who don’t even have anything of their own even their identity are also stolen still they work for us for our safety. Kashmir Singh was an exception who got land and monetary from the Punjab Government. He returned in 2008 after spending over three decades in a Pakistan Jail.


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Preparing For The Attack On Karachi: How R&AW Stripped Pakistan’s Naval Intelligence Bare In 1971
Anusha Nandakumar and Sandeep Saket

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The War That Made R&AW. Anusha Nandakumar and Sandeep Saket. Westland. 2021. Pages 256. Rs 400.
Three Indian Navy missile boats, armed to the teeth, were in the Arabian Sea, speeding north to attack the Karachi harbour. Suddenly, en route, the radar on one of the boats started beeping. An enemy warship had been spotted. PNS Khaibar was approaching the missile boat and was at a distance of 120 kilometres.
The Indian boat had been discovered, and its captain knew it was just a matter of time before they would be attacked. They were in enemy waters, after all. The captain knew he had to make a move quickly. It was his only chance. He took aim and launched the anti-ship missile towards PNS Khaibar.
This was Trident, India’s secret naval operation, which was now in its final stages. The date was 5 December 1971.

 

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Cross posting from Pegasus thread. Posting here as there is no separate thread for IB.
Hi all. Posting after a very long time to share some valuable information.
Many assume it was RAW which was snooping. But I think it is IB which is behind Pegasus.
Here is a deputation recruitment notice for IB from 2019. Source - PDF
Look at job number 5 and 6. The desirable skills section is a dead giveaway. The code word is 'lawful communication interception'.
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Note that DCIO is equivalent to ASP in police. Most of these vacancies are filled by personnel from CAPFs. These have training institutes for cyber skills. For eg BSF has signals training centre in Bangalore.
Also interesting to note that IB is recruiting economists( job no 3 and 11) for research.

How IB recruits?
IB recruits both directly and through deputation.
  1. It conducts an exam to recruits ACIO II vacancies. Here ACIO II is equivalent to Inspector in police.
  2. It conducts another exam for Security assistant. The SA is equivalent to head constable in police.
  3. Bulk of the intelligence gathering in the field is by ACIOs and SAs.
  4. For deputation any Central/state government employees are considered. Mostly IPS take the top posts.
I know this as I had written ACIO exam many years ago but failed to clear it.:rage: In the past few years recruitment of ACIO has increased to around 2000 posts per year. Pay has increased to around 75k.

Counter intelligence:
As you are aware it is IB that is in-charge of counter intelligence within the country. The list of phone numbers reportedly contains nos of foreign diplomats posted in India. In reality they must be spies posted as diplomats. No doubt IB would be monitoring them to find out traitors. If you had followed news for the past few years you would know bunch of traitors have been arrested.

Ending IPS domination?:
As has been reported lot of times the deputation of IPS officers causes trouble within central agencies. Many committees have recommended ending IPS hegemony in central forces. But IPS lobby is strong and won't allow it to happen. But it looks like shortage of IPS has forced govt's hand. In this deputation notice I found on SSB website(Source) 40 posts of Asst Director is available for non ips. AD is equivalent to SP in police. So 40 is a big number.
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Reforms:
As you are aware that UPA era was the worst for intel agencies. I believe NDA govt has done a fairly good job in fixing deficiencies in IB. In 2013 govt informed parliament that sanctioned posts in IB was around 26k with 18k post filled and 8k vacancies. In 2021 govt informed parliament that now sanctioned posts is around 40k with less vacancy. So IB has roughly doubled in strength in 7 years. IB's growing capabilities means less pressure on RAW which can focus on its core job.

Conclusion:
Amnesty says the list is 'potential targets' for perspective clients. Lefties can whine all they want but all they have is a bunch of numbers on a excel sheet.

P.S:
I have not revealed any sensitive info. All the above are publicly available.
 

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India joined exclusive surveillance group after 26/11, says book
In 2008, the Research and Analysis Wing (RAW), received an invite from US National Security Agency (NSA) to join a regional body known as SSPAC (Signals Intelligence Senior Pacific), which, the book says, was a “step up” for India, which had been trying to gain Washington’s attention for a very long time.

The members of this exclusive surveillance group included the so called Five Eyes countries – the US, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, Britain – and also South Korea, Singapore, and Thailand.
“This meant the sender and recipient details for emails, or the phone numbers someone called from, and to, as well as time stamps for when these messages, emails, and calls were sent and made. All of it would be funnelled into a new reference repository, known as SMAC, or the Sensitive Metadata Analytic Collaboration programme,” the authors write.
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Subsequently, work on tracking Thuraya satellite phones as well as countering burner phones was developed by agencies. The face of Kashmir’s new wave of militancy, Burhan Wani (Hizbul Mujahideen commander), who was killed by security forces on July 8, 2016, was, in fact, constantly tracked though his Thuraya satellite phone, the book claims.




The force is strong on this one. aye
 

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a whole load of copium that should last for some time for some members here at DFI. :truestory:
I was not that impressed honestly.
It seemed like an attempt to show both are the same while ignoring the huge terror apparatus that Pakistan has built.
Even the so called successes seemed trivial to me. May be I'm too much of a skeptic
 

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I was not that impressed honestly.
It seemed like an attempt to show both are the same while ignoring the huge terror apparatus that Pakistan has built.
Even the so called successes seemed trivial to me. May be I'm too much of a skeptic
Pakis are so successful that they have been isolated from every single bilateral relationship they have barring daddy China

How many billions have they lost? How many 1000s of their soldiers/citizens?
 

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