India's Air Defense System and its Capabilities

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Actually i would bid for a more integrated research and development , where rnd is done in collaboration of indian academia , drdo , private player , yeah but they should be givrn contract for manufacturing of not so sensitive tech , which is disruptive and only we have , all iit ,nit ,iisc , csir ,hal ,nal, bel all together for particular project , funding would be better utilized ,and we should cut funding of all social science colleges .
I agree.

Can there be a mechanism created where universities can get royalties from the IP that they share with private companies? I mean, say if Mahindra Defence joins with IISc to develop something cutting edge, like a graphene armour, can IISc earn revenue from the sale of each defence product that Mahindra makes locally or internationally? This would wean the universities off government handouts and be able to retain their own reserves and become R&D hubs for private defence corporations.

Pretty sure that our new private companies won't mind this arrangement at least initially. I wonder if we have thought of anything in that direction.
 

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Absolutely, strategic like nuclear missiles, Subs, Radars must be absolutely 100% indigenous....atleast in the area of strategic missles we are 100% already....not true for subs yet.
Definitely need bigger budget commensurate to our economy size and constant threats from neighbors from all directions.

Quad is as good as still born and dead and India simply does not have the balls for decisive defense partnerships, this is good and bad and west is not the same as it was.

We are better off alone and perhaps some deep partnerships like with Israel and Russia but we are on our own and can't trust or depend on others.
It is not about decisive defence partnerships. It is about reliability of such partnerships. You need to see how uneven this alliance is. Had BRICS been a quasi-defense alliance it would have made more sense since India was roughly on the same footing as other 2 countries namely Russia and Brazil. However, given the China factor there, it was not possible.

Here in the QUAD, India gets the short end of the stick. You need to realize that it is essentially US+ and India. Japan and Australia are overseas territories of the USA for all practical purposes. They have no independent foreign policies and no independent geopolitical voices. They might have some degree of goodwill towards India, but it means nothing when the USA orders them to retreat in a hypothetical conflict scenario.

At that time, we will be caught with our pants down, just as the US has a history of burning alliances with non-white, non-Christian eastern countries. With the Liberal deep state taking full control of the US, it is very unlikely that the US will remain friendly with India in the near future. Its Big Tech is already involved in information warfare against us - Twitter, Google, Facebook... all these companies are at odds with the government in the last 3 years and have openly supported anti-India agendas all over the country.

We need to be ready. China did one smart thing; it trusted no one and became self-reliant. Today in the event of a conflict, it need not depend on anyone for most products and can hit back. We still rely excessively on outsiders.

I would rather keep individual relations with France, Israel and Russia than encourage any more encroachment of USA and UK in our strategic areas. They are just not reliable.
 

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Do you have measurements of aakash ng missile , looks like this baby is chonkier and longer than barak 8 without booster , may cross the 100 km mark
No I don't have have dimensions of Akash NG
The picture in the article is of Akash 1/1s and not Akash NG.
Akash 1/1s is a heavy missile which weighs 720kgs and is 5.xx m in length.
 

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No I don't have have dimensions of Akash NG
The picture in the article is of Akash 1/1s and not Akash NG.
Akash 1/1s is a heavy missile which weighs 720kgs and is 5.xx m in length.
Yeah know about the akash 1s but barak and and akash ng have similar ranges and all ,but still not pursued for ship based launches , would be better to do so
 

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Yeah know about the akash 1s but barak and and akash ng have similar ranges and all ,but still not pursued for ship based launches , would be better to do so
Yes, but we don't know whether Akash NG is a VL launched system or inclined launch system.
Navy only wants Vertically launched system.
I have heard, although not sure, that Akash NG currently is an inclined launched system to save cost.

So, DRDO might be positioning Akash NG as a cheaper alternative to Barak 8 for IA and IAF.

In future with VL Akash NG, it may see deployment with the Navy but not now.

Currently IN is pursuing VL SR-SAM for shorter range and LRSAM/ Barak 8 for longer range.
 

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Yes, but we don't know whether Akash NG is a VL launched system or inclined launch system.
Navy only wants Vertically launched system.
I have heard, although not sure, that Akash NG currently is an inclined launched system to save cost.

So, DRDO might be positioning Akash NG as a cheaper alternative to Barak 8 for IA and IAF.

In future with VL Akash NG, it may see deployment with the Navy but not now.

Currently IN is pursuing VL SR-SAM for shorter range and LRSAM/ Barak 8 for longer range.
On new ships atleast they need to be vertical, inclined waste space
 

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Indian Army Deploys Anti-drone System In Jammu's Poonch And Rajouri District
Amid increased threats of drone attacks by terrorists, the Indian Army has now deployed anti-drone measures in order to thwart any attempts. The Indian Army has deployed an electro-optic drone system in Jammu's Poonch and Rajouri sectors near the Line of Control (LOC). According to reports, the new anti-drone system uses a laser to bring down drones at a distance of 1.5 kilometres by disrupting its communications system. The deployment comes days after a drone attack on the Jammu airbase.

Anti-drone system deployed in Poonch and Rajouri
According to reports, the system cuts off the drone's signal from its parent control or operator. The system is mounted on an Indian Army vehicle. which means it is can be transported, This also comes amid an ongoing investigation into the airbase attack that saw the use of drones. In addition, the Indian Army has already started drone training for the police in the border areas. The police are being trained to carry out drone surveillance along the LOC. Moreover, earlier on Wednesday, the Indian Army also installed high-mast lighting at the IAF Station in Jammu to increase surveillance and track any incoming drones.

Jammu drone attack
In the early hours of Sunday, twin explosions rocked the technical area of the IAF airbase in Jammu causing minor damage to the facility and leaving two Indian Air Force officers injured. The blasts which took place within a gap of five minutes occurred after explosive-laden drones crashed in the airbase. The first blast sound is captured in the CCTV at 1.37 am while the second at 1.43 am. It is believed that the target was the aircraft parked in the dispersal area. The blasts come after Prime Minister Narendra Modi's high-level meeting with J&K's political parties and the Gupkar alliance, the first since the abrogation of Article 370.
 

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Au-220m turret
4x ADATS type high-speed dual-purpose missile (preferably with dual seekers, MMW & IIR)
7.62x51 MMG RCWS

Deadly combo, common MGS turret for both ICV and Mobile SHORAD platforms.
 

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