Indian Woman for Combat Duties

[ArgonPrime]

Indian society will never accept women coming in body bags or throwing them to cruel bastards who rape even animals

That's not even the problem. I for one do not even give a flying fuck about what society thinks, never have, and never will. Nor is it a matter of what the enemy may or may not do to the female prisoners of war, since it's an occupational hazard that comes with this job and they would be taking it outta their own free will, knowing full well the fate that will await them. That's not the problem.

The problem is, women just do not make good warriors (for the most part). They will always be the weak links in a squad, the rest of the men would have to carry their burden, which will badly damage unit cohesion and thus their combat effectiveness. This in my opinion, poses a far greater and immediate problem than the Indian public finding it difficult to cope with women in bodybags or POWs getting buttfucked by the muzzies.

 

[Heat]

Yup the problem is that some pussy feminists just wanna do that because 'we can do this' ."we can do anything men can do".most women join the forces even in support role for their nation.

Therein lies the rub - They are NOT!!

That's why the test, no ? If they pass, they get to go in. Let's make it so that enough women should pass that a unit can be built around them.
If that doesn't happen, then the debate ends and the status quo continues. Simple.

Why is this so controversial ?

 

[Heat]

Yes, a man’s life is less important than women’s. there is a reason that during a calamity, women and children are evacuated first. there is a reason there are more cows than bulls in India.

If nature intended men and women to be the same, there wouldn’t have been two genders.

Let the percentage of men and women
climb Everest be 50-50 without manipulation, then we will talk. there is absolutely no gender based restrictions imposed on who can climb Everest, because it is rich people’s sport.

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TBH, 12% is damn high. In countries like India even such small percentages translate into very large numbers.

 

[ArgonPrime]

That's why the test, no ? If they pass, they get to go in. Let's make it so that enough women should pass that a unit can be built around them.
If that doesn't happen, then the debate ends and the status quo continues. Simple.

Only if it were all that simple. In truth, this would never put the debate at rest, it will only make the feminists demand that the Army to be more inclusive at any cost, which invariably will result in Army having to succumb to their pressure tactics and lower the bars for female recruits, which in the end, will only go to weaken the unit cohesion and combat abilities of the Army as a whole. That's how it panned out for everyone that tried to walk that path. Same happened in the west, I don't see how it'll be any different here.

 

[ezsasa]

TBH, 12% is damn high. In countries like India even such small percentages translate into very large numbers.

That global average, not specific to India.

 

[Heat]

Only if it were all that simple. In truth, this would never put the debate at rest, it will only make the feminists demand that the Army to be more inclusive at any cost, which invariably will result in Army having to succumb to their pressure tactics and lower the bars for female recruits, which in the end, will only go to weaken the unit cohesion and combat abilities of the Army as a whole. That's how it panned out for everyone that tried to walk that path. Same happened in the west, I don't see how it'll be any different here.

Making a lot of assumptions right now.

Once you have the test results you have hard data to back you up. Army cares more about actual data than what some SJW or Feminazi thinks.

 

[Heat]

That global average, not specific to India.

More reasons why we need to study ourselves.

 

[IndianHawk]

Making a lot of assumptions right now.

Once you have the test results you have hard data to back you up. Army cares more about actual data than what some SJW or Feminazi thinks.

Army has to follow orders of political government . Which succumbs to all kind of pressures.

 

[ArgonPrime]

Making a lot of assumptions right now.

Only, these are not mere assumptions, but that's what had happened in the US where the Army ended up lower the physical standards for their aspiring female recruits!!

Once you have the test results you have hard data to back you up. Army cares more about actual data than what some SJW or Feminazi thinks.

Yes, in an ideal world, that'd be the case. But we don't live in an ideal world, now do we??

 

[ArgonPrime]

More reasons why we need to study ourselves.

And what makes our women so special?? They're women, just the ones hailing from other parts of the world.

 

[Heat]

Army has to follow orders of political government . Which succumbs to all kind of pressures.

What makes you think we are already not past the point where SJWs and Lefties can force the govt to induct women in front line roles.

If anything the studies can help us to drive the SJWs back with actual data.

 

[ezsasa]

More reasons why we need to study ourselves.

Sure, ask for a study and come back with a overwhelmingly convincing argument beyond western sponsored SJW literature.

this study can be done in police force ,para military and existing females in Indian military as well, WIC is not a precondition for this academic study.

 

[ArgonPrime]

What makes you think we are already not past the point where SJWs and Lefties can force the govt to induct women in front line roles.

Because it's BJP at the helm right now. Wait till they are removed.

If anything the studies can help us to drive the SJWs back with actual data.

Nope, they will only push harder for forced equality.

 

[Heat]

And what makes our women so special?? They're women, just the ones hailing from other parts of the world.

This again. You love going in circles don't you ?
Also, no. We are genetically different from the rest of the world, would be foolish to draw conclusions from other people's findings.

 

[ArgonPrime]

This again. You love going in circles don't you ?

Yes, but you seem to enjoy it even more.

Also, no. We are genetically different from the rest of the world, would be foolish to draw conclusions from other people's findings.

Not that much. And besides, if we are talking about differences, then the argument would be even more skewed against your line of thinking since Western women, on average are bigger, stronger and the terrain in the west is far less extreme than what is prevalent all along our frontiers!! So, I'm willing to bet my every last penny that Indian women will fair even worse.

 

[IndianHawk]

What makes you think we are already not past the point where SJWs and Lefties can force the govt to induct women in front line roles.

If anything the studies can help us to drive the SJWs back with actual data.

I'm pretty sure we are past that point. The only thing stopping women from front line is that it's just not fashionable right now. Not enough countries have done this .

Once it becomes more acceptable in west it will be considered oppression against women if you won't sent them on front line or not have many women generals .

 

[Heat]

Sure, ask for a study and come back with a overwhelmingly convincing argument beyond western sponsored SJW literature.

this study can be done in police force ,para military and existing females in Indian military as well, WIC is not a precondition for this academic study.

That's the way to go and the Army should do it as it sees fit.

Inducting women without doing that would be foolish. IAF did it's own program when inducting women as fighter pilots, army should do the same.

Remember all of this is opinion. Maybe the army will outright reject the proposal or accept it without any scrutiny. That is not under our control.

 

[Aspirant847]

Please elucidate your reservations.

All of us forum members genuinely want to know these ideas. What are some fundamental limitations of women that hampers their operational effectiveness according to you ?

oh, missed out on the last 30 pages huh

 

[ezsasa]

That's the way to go and the Army should do it as it sees fit.

inducting women without doing would be foolish. IAF did it's own program when inducting women as fighter pilots, army should do the same.

Remember all of this is opinion. Maybe the army will outright reject the proposal or accept it without any scrutiny. That is not under our control.

Good..

 

[Aspirant847]

They mostly bring up strength and state that men are stronger biologically compared to women

they also don’t trust women to watch their six

they don’t believe women can do long missions that involve harsh weather conditions

they don’t think women can carry a lot of weight and will hurt themselves and get PTSD more often

Nicely put