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Hope these enemy-fire-loving-GI-Janes dont cry mummyyyyyy when a bearded mullah tampers with her sensitives in a candle lit dungeon. Or when the manicured parts are pulled lovingly with pliers. Or when electric shock sent thru wet private parts disturb the hairstyle. Or when a rusted knife slices thru painted lips or sensitive boobies.
Or they could all have fairies guarding over them and dont go thru the loving attention that Saurabh Kalia got.
Just saying.
 

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Alright so SC says women should face enemy fire and lead men from the front. Equality and all. Good.
what I read was women shud be allowed to command non-combat formations.

don't know on what basis milords r making these "orders"..they cannot even hang the nirbhaya rapists and here they r saying army MUST give higher commands without any combat experience!

so wen next time army says we cannot give women the command due to lack of combat experience they ll say, take women for combat:facepalm: and then take women into SF!
see all of this is pre-planned and scripted.
 

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Hope these enemy-fire-loving-GI-Janes dont cry mummyyyyyy when a bearded mullah tampers with her sensitives in a candle lit dungeon. Or when the manicured parts are pulled lovingly with pliers. Or when electric shock sent thru wet private parts disturb the hairstyle. Or when a rusted knife slices thru painted lips or sensitive boobies.
Or they could all have fairies guarding over them and dont go thru the loving attention that Saurabh Kalia got.
Just saying.
Probably. And a chap is just as likely to sing like a canary with his balls cupped between tongs, plus testosterone suppressors & few hundred ml of oxytocin in his bloodstream. It depends on individuals (but modern methods are farr too effective).
Breaking bones is very amateurish... just inject heroin & after some time they divulge anything for another. Complete deniability of breaking Geneva Convention too!
 
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what I read was women shud be allowed to command non-combat formations.

don't know on what basis milords r making these "orders"..they cannot even hang the nirbhaya rapists and here they r saying army MUST give higher commands without any combat experience!

so wen next time army says we cannot give women the command due to lack of combat experience they ll say, take women for combat:facepalm: and then take women into SF!
see all of this is pre-planned and scripted.
Army has been given a hall pass for individual cases. Not a complete blanket ban. Thus there will be no field or 'hard' postings for women.

The court noted that such a restriction was not imposed when the JAG and AEC branches were opened up for grant of permanent commission.

It then observed that an absolute bar on women seeking criteria or command appointments would violate Article 14 of the Constitution, which guarantees equality before law. The Army, it said, had also failed to provide a justification for the restriction.

The court, therefore, ruled that whether a particular candidate should or should not be granted a criteria or command assignment “is a matter for the competent authority to consider having regard to all the exigencies of service, performance and organisational requirements”.

It, however, added that if the Army does have convincing reasons for excluding women from a particular criteria or command appointment, “it may provide them to the relevant authorities and, if necessary, to future courts”.
https://theprint.in/theprint-essent...permanent-commission-to-women-in-army/366907/

Now here is the problem. Male units who get easy postings for R&R will have to spend more time at the field.

“The Army, which is heavily deployed along the borders and in counter-insurgency operations, has a limited number of ‘sheltered’ or peace station postings. With more women PC officers occupying such positions, hard or field postings for male officers will be more prolonged,” another officer said.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...l-challenge-for-army/articleshow/74182860.cms
 

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Probably. And a chap is just as likely to sing like a canary with his balls cupped between tongs, plus testosterone suppressors & few hundred ml of oxytocin in his bloodstream. It depends on individuals (but modern methods are farr too effective).
Breaking bones is very amateurish... just inject heroin & after some time they divulge anything for another. Complete deniability of breaking Geneva Convention too!
The judgement entails non combat roles only for PC. What is noteworthy is that there is no blanket ban on command posts. These promotions begin at Colonel and determine whether you join the ranks of Generals or retire after 20 years of service with pension benefits. About 30% of officers receive these postings. So you might have some tussle with peace postings after this judgement.

Army might try to siphon most of the 600 eligible women to Cyber, Languages and Space Commands.

https://www.firstpost.com/india/ind...uages-cyber-and-space-operations-5861531.html
 
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The possible Command Posts that women could be employed in.

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Arguments allowing for 'policy decision of Union Govt.' for exclusion of women from combat units.

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I have seen pics of BSF, CRPF women doing patrolling etc... isn't that combat posting ?
 

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I have seen pics of BSF, CRPF women doing patrolling etc... isn't that combat posting ?
Anything where you are not actively looking for people to kill with your own two hands, by implements or by a vehicle of war wherein you are exposed to the elements and mortal danger within the area of operations is NOT a combat posting.

Thus those women are engaged in simple policing duties. When SHTF, these women are called back to safe zones away from enemy fire.

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/sto...ke-of-firing-from-pakistan-1156269-2018-01-29
 

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Anything where you are not actively looking for people to kill with your own two hands, by implements or by a vehicle of war wherein you are exposed to the elements and mortal danger within the area of operations is NOT a combat posting.

Thus those women are engaged in simple policing duties. When SHTF, these women are called back to safe zones away from enemy fire.

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/sto...ke-of-firing-from-pakistan-1156269-2018-01-29
Ok thanks for the information.
 

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The next target for the feminist horde will be the NDA and IMA. Then they will try for Women in Combat using the 'equal opportunity' principle.





https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...en-officers/articleshow/74169078.cms?from=mdr
The Army Act 1950 requires an Official Gazette notification for this to even be allowed.

Ineligibility of females for enrolment or employment. No female shall be eligible for enrolment or employment in the regular Army, except in such corps, department, branch or other body forming part of, or attached to any portion of, the regular Army as the Central Government may, by notification in the Official Gazette, specify in this behalf: Provided that nothing contained in this section shall affect the provisions of any law for the time being in force providing for the raising and maintenance of any service auxiliary to the regular Army, or any branch thereof in which females are eligible for enrolment or employment.
This combined with an earlier decision limiting interference by SC in policy decisions by the Army will prevent this unless the government explicitly allows for this.

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I like the new ruling from SC.

We should be putting them to take on Naxals and terrorists.
For Naxals, killing a batch of women soldiers would be a PR nightmare they can't ever recover from.

For terrorists, imagine being killed by women soldiers.
We can in fact wage a psy war on Jihadi scum by unleashing women soldiers on them.
In fact, we should release videos of women snipers blasting some Jihadi heads...
 

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Will not affect naxals
I like the new ruling from SC.

We should be putting them to take on Naxals and terrorists.
For Naxals, killing a batch of women soldiers would be a PR nightmare they can't ever recover from.

For terrorists, imagine being killed by women soldiers.
We can in fact wage a psy war on Jihadi scum by unleashing women soldiers on them.
In fact, we should release videos of women snipers blasting some Jihadi heads...
They have their IDEOLOGICAL SUPPORTERS who with media prove that government wants to ELIMINATE women units but forcing Naxals to kill them.

Terrorists Psy ops can back fire if they rape and maim a female soldier (like BAT action) record it and them leak it to OGW like hurriat and PDP to make it viral.
 

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Will not affect naxals

They have their IDEOLOGICAL SUPPORTERS who with media prove that government wants to ELIMINATE women units but forcing Naxals to kill them.

Terrorists Psy ops can back fire if they rape and maim a female soldier (like BAT action) record it and them leak it to OGW like hurriat and PDP to make it viral.
It wont back fire on govt.
After all, the women made their choice and it was the Jihadi terrorists that did the rape.

I can potentially see any little sympathy vanishing from Indian people against the Jihadis.
Not even the most secular kind would dare oppose any action undertaken by govt to avenge.
 

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It wont back fire on govt.
After all, the women made their choice and it was the Jihadi terrorists that did the rape.

I can potentially see any little sympathy vanishing from Indian people against the Jihadis.
Not even the most secular kind would dare oppose any action undertaken by govt to avenge.
In an ideal world, maybe. But not present day India. The Media is so throughly penetrated that you will have Anchors running prime time about how Indian Army FORCED these units knowing BAT was in place. First saying why we don't get intelligence then saying intelligence was known but was hidden on purpose.
It's not the dedication of women I doubt but the Spin Doctors who I believe are well oiled machine at this.
 

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Take it in writing no women officer will be facing a naxal or jihadi . These permanent commission is to get equal and CO post like male counter parts , There are 100s of roles in army which has zero combat requirement where this new rule will be applied.

If people really want to know how this works . Talk to anyone in ITBP and BSF they will pour their real time stories out.

its like you can't give them tough task and neither you can scold them freely like how they do to their male counterparts

I like the new ruling from SC.

We should be putting them to take on Naxals and terrorists.
For Naxals, killing a batch of women soldiers would be a PR nightmare they can't ever recover from.

For terrorists, imagine being killed by women soldiers.
We can in fact wage a psy war on Jihadi scum by unleashing women soldiers on them.
In fact, we should release videos of women snipers blasting some Jihadi heads...
 

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Take it in writing no women officer will be facing a naxal or jihadi . These permanent commission is to get equal and CO post like male counter parts , There are 100s of roles in army which has zero combat requirement where this new rule will be applied.

If people really want to know how this works . Talk to anyone in ITBP and BSF they will pour their real time stories out.

its like you can't give them tough task and neither you can scold them freely like how they do to their male counterparts
Well, govt should insist on equal opportunity and insist man = woman, i.e, no special treatment for anyone.
Have a all women regiment and send them off to the valley on the border.

If few get killed, blame on Jihadis for killing women.
If some inside crib, insist on man = woman and stand firm on women's rights to kill/be killed.

BUT, I think you are right, govt would chicken out and fall in trap of woke feminism & pander.
 

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I am just concerned about their safety and nothing else. A commander is a commander you have to respect the rank and the uniform, it doesn't matter whether its a male or female.
 

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The judgement entails non combat roles only for PC. What is noteworthy is that there is no blanket ban on command posts. These promotions begin at Colonel and determine whether you join the ranks of Generals or retire after 20 years of service with pension benefits. About 30% of officers receive these postings. So you might have some tussle with peace postings after this judgement.

Army might try to siphon most of the 600 eligible women to Cyber, Languages and Space Commands.

https://www.firstpost.com/india/ind...uages-cyber-and-space-operations-5861531.html
Firstly, there will be NO induction of women in combat - Infantry, Armour or artillery units.

Secondly, command only in non combat units.

Thirdly, cannot command brigades and above due to no experience in combat roles.

Fourthly, can be promoted to the ranks of Brigadiers. Maj generals and Lt generals but only within their corps.
 
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