Indian Woman for Combat Duties

[thethinker]

And if they crash somewhere near Delhi, Goa...they should shoot themselves before getting raped.

Since you apparently seem to be a specialist on rapes, can you enlighten non Pakis about which Paki regiment does is this fine soldier from 1971 belong to :

And also if that gentleman is still alive?

Bet his kids and grandkids would be so proud that their daddu/abu got an entire statue of his own (even if it means being a part of sexual warcrimes).

 

[Neo]

At least a criminal will be registered unlike Pakistan where most of case are under reported and zero conviction.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/728949/...rape-senator-proposes-constitutional-changes/

WTF is this 5 witness to Rape crap,what a medieval country Pakistan is.

So you're fine with them being raped because the criminals will be registered?
You're an idiot!

 

[jackprince]

Good decision but what if they are taken POW,I mean not by the Chinese, i admire them as they treated the our dead and pow in 1962 with honour.

I am concerned about Pakis,female pilots should shoot themselves instead of becoming POW of goat loving Pakis.

I doubt that the female fighter pilots will be deployed at the western border during wartime. Too much risk.

Chinese are professional and we can expect honorable treatment for POWs. But Pakistanis are scum of the earth. We should have sliced open all the buggers captured during Kargil war. Afterall since Pakistan denied that any of their regulars were involved, we would have been justified treating the captured as mad dogs.

 

[thethinker]

I doubt that the female fighter pilots will be deployed at the western border during wartime. Too much risk.

Chinese are professional and we can expect honorable treatment for POWs. But Pakistanis are scum of the earth. We should have sliced open all the buggers captured during Kargil war. Afterall since Pakistan denied that any of their regulars were involved, we would have been justified treating the captured as mad dogs.

The reason for Paki barbarity is that Paki military operates not just from military but ideological viewpoint too.

They consider war as jihad with themselves being soldiers of Allah who must vanquish the infidels. So during invasion, rape as well as destroying non military but religious elements like temples and non Muslim places of worship is very common just as what happened during 1971 war.

Think of it as the 1400 year old conquests being redone and you'll understand why they commit atrocities with such ease and no remorse.

 

[roma]

Women are not capable of enduring high G compared to there male counter part and it has been proved scientifically as of biological limitation . May be IAF will give them su30 to fly ,with BVR capable plane they wont need to go for high maneuver VVR fight .

Why don't army also raise some all women Tank battalion as they have got the AC issue rectified in T90s so they wont have to sweat it out in hot desert also Arjun is coming soon so there will be lot of space available in the tank for there comfort.

really i do NOT support the idea of women in combat roles even though as the longer time members would know that i am a feminist and staunch supporter of women's rights as equals - yes we are equal with men but not identical

so i agree with you that women cant take high G which is obviously required as a fighter pilot but also neither do it support women's role in tanks nor indeed in ANY combat role

i feel this will be a DESTABILIZING factor in the lives of those women who are in combat roles leading to family dysfunction and a consequent reflection society and will be grossly negative

women in uniform should be in policing and medical facilities and preferably at hoe bases i.e. in buildings and not out on the field -- also of course they an be in admin , accounting i.e any non combat functions would be fine including vehicle mechanic aero mechanic etc etc - anything just non -combat ....of course that might mean certain leadership roles eg platoon commander or higher up would be not open to women and i think that's fine - we must learn to accept that - there are so many career options open , why insist on combat roles ?

just my humble opinion

why not share this scientific evidence instead of pulling crap. Women can be just as good, Israel, France, US have terrific pilots, there are even F-22 female pilots. All pilots have to go through the same training and only the ones fit will get to fly.

all those countries you mentioned have below replacement levels of new births and very serious, disaster level demographic problems and are likely to be seriously different societies in the next 30 years with their indigenous "white" populations near wiped out levels

so a woman pilot kills a few and the nation loses it demographic battles ....that's wisdom ??

Are they able to perform/available 100% during menstruation period. There shouldn't be different standard of measurement, qualification, training regiment compared to men.

well you have spoken the reality as regards the bodily functions of women - -

why cant the higher ups n goi see this ? what do women have to do to ask for equality and yet in different and separate functions ? ..... the politicos dont understand this ? all that university education and elite brains but they don know the basics ? ...sorry to ask so many questions but in a sense thinking out loud ....but you otoh have written a good post

Good move. PAF has has female fighter piliots for some years now with good track of safety.

i wanted to ask if Islam allows this
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-Islamic-position-on-women-in-combat-roles
so far all i got was that above, i suppose i'll keep trying

this is a serious question and has no reference to any debate you are having with whoever else on this forum or thread ...... if you would , let me know the position as per Holy Book or hadith ? ...

my basic question is does Islam advocate for a woman to be in combat role WHEN MEN ARE AVAILABLE to fulfill that function ....i can understand if Islam allows it in the absence of men i.e. special situations but this is different because the men are there ....

and if anyone prefers to discuss that off the forum via the messaging system , please send me a message , that would be fine too .

thanks in advance , regards,
R

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[Sakal Gharelu Ustad]

really i do NOT support the idea of women in combat roles even though as the longer time members would know that i am a feminist and staunch supporter of women's rights as equals - yes we are equal with men but not identical

so i agree with you that women cant take high G which is obviously required as a fighter pilot but also neither do it support women's role in tanks nor indeed in ANY combat role

i feel this will be a DESTABILIZING factor in the lives of those women who are in combat roles leading to family dysfunction and a consequent reflection society and will be grossly negative

women in uniform should be in policing and medical facilities and preferably at hoe bases i.e. in buildings and not out on the field -- also of course they an be in admin , accounting i.e any non combat functions would be fine including vehicle mechanic aero mechanic etc etc - anything just non -combat ....of course that might mean certain leadership roles eg platoon commander or higher up would be not open to women and i think that's fine - we must learn to accept that - there are so many career options open , why insist on combat roles ?

just my humble opinion



all those countries you mentioned have below replacement levels of new births and very serious, disaster level demographic problems and are likely to be seriously different societies in the next 30 years with their indigenous "white" populations near wiped out levels

so a woman pilot kills a few and the nation loses it demographic battles ....that's wisdom ??



well you have spoken the reality as regards the bodily functions of women - -

why cant the higher ups n goi see this ? what do women have to do to ask for equality and yet in different and separate functions ? ..... the politicos dont understand this ? all that university education and elite brains but they don know the basics ? ...sorry to ask so many questions but in a sense thinking out loud ....but you otoh have written a good post




i wanted to ask if Islam allows this
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-Islamic-position-on-women-in-combat-roles
so far all i got was that above, i suppose i'll keep trying

this is a serious question and has no reference to any debate you are having with whoever else on this forum or thread ...... if you would , let me know the position as per Holy Book or hadith ? ...

my basic question is does Islam advocate for a woman to be in combat role WHEN MEN ARE AVAILABLE to fulfill that function ....i can understand if Islam allows it in the absence of men i.e. special situations but this is different because the men are there ....

and if anyone prefers to discuss that off the forum via the messaging system , please send me a message , that would be fine too .

thanks in advance , regards,
R

@angeldude13@Abhijat@Ancient Indian@anupamsurey@aliyah @Alien @apple @Aravind Sanjeev @A chauhan

@bose @Bornubus @brational@blueblood@Blackwater@Blood+@Bangalorean@bengalraider@cobra commando@Chirag@DingDong@ersakthivel@guru-dutt@Hari Sud@hit&run
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@Kunal Biswas@LETHALFORCE@laughingbuddha@mhk99 @maomao @Neil@OneGrimPilgrim@pmaitra@PaliwalWarrior@Pulkit
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@Sakal Gharelu Ustad@Srinivas_K@sgarg@sabari@Sameet2@saik@sorcerer @sydsnyper
@TejasMK3@The enlightened
@tejas warrior@tharun@thethinker@tsunami@Screambowl@Sylex21@VIP@Yusuf@Yumdoot@Zebra

@Nicky G@FRYCRY @Chinmoy @Vishwarupa

@Akim @gadeshi @Gabriel92 @jouni
@ajtr @Zarvan @musalman @Neo @safriz

Sane words from a feminist. I too think this is an inefficient policy and taking women's rights to an extreme situation. Actually, not being able to serve in armed forces is more of a right!

 

[spikey360]

Only a few days ago Arup Raha was saying how women's bodies are not capable enough to handle the rigours of combat flight, and now this. Really, stupidity is touching an all time high in the armed forces.
In an effort to show that we are 'modern thinkers' and supporters of 'Nari shakti', we are doing the greatest disservice to womanhood and to the women of India.
Then, what is the need for males to fight at all? If women are so capable, let them go and fight it out against the enemy! Males would be more than happy to farm and fish and spend a life of ease.

 

[Sakal Gharelu Ustad]

As if right now, armed forces have less problems and then we will have to further address the concerns of rape and molestation in the forces. Thankfully we do not have wars like US in Afghanistan etc. and probably women would not see vagaries of war. But imagine Indian women pilots captured by Pakis.

Modi govt. should not play to the gallery.

 

[spikey360]

As if right now, armed forces have less problems and then we will have to further address the concerns of rape and molestation in the forces. Thankfully we do not have wars like US in Afghanistan etc. and probably women would not see vagaries of war. But imagine Indian women pilots captured by Pakis.

Modi govt. should not play to the gallery.

Just wait till these so called women combatants enter active duty and get 'used' on a daily basis. Then the same women empowerment brigade will cry hoarse how all Indian men are rapists.
Modi has done some intelligent things. But of all things he has done, this is the most idiotic, illogical and dangerous things which he has done. He should immediately recall this order and apologise, I mean really, to the women of India for trying to play with fire and the future of the Nation. I cannot support Modi Govt, in this context.

 

[rock127]

Do they wear burqa while flying?...........

As a FACT Paki women(in Armed Forces) wear Hijab,Suit-Salwar and Sari.... conflicting attire since Sari is a Hindu attire.

 

[bose]

As a FACT Paki women(in Armed Forces) wear Hijab,Suit-Salwar and Sari.... conflicting attire since Sari is a Hindu attire.

@Neo wearing Sari is un Islamic ?

How come the ladies wearing Saris ? Who wear Saris in Pakistan ?

 

[thethinker]

As a FACT Paki women(in Armed Forces) wear Hijab,Suit-Salwar and Sari.... conflicting attire since Sari is a Hindu attire.

Very surprising. Most of them look like dark Hindu indians!

Here's a wild guess -

Can it be possible that they actually have Hindu indian ancestry but desperately keep convincing themselves and others that they are of Arab ancestry with no ties at all to dark ugly Hindu indians?

The suspense is too much!

 

[Neo]

@Neo wearing Sari is un Islamic ?

How come the ladies wearing Saris ? Who wear Saris in Pakistan ?

There's nothing wrong with sari's. It's one of our national dresses.

 

[bose]

Very surprising. Most of them look like dark Hindu indians!

Here's a wild guess -

Can it be possible that they actually have Hindu indian ancestry but desperately keep convincing themselves and others that they are of Arab ancestry with no ties at all to dark ugly Hindu indians?

The suspense is too much!

The men pilots seems to be Muhajirs ...

 

[bose]

There's nothing wrong with sari's. It's one of our national dresses.

But wearing Sari in combat duty is awkward and in convenient ... Indian lady defense personal either go for Salwar Kameez or western style pants...

 

[thethinker]

The men pilots seems to be Muhajirs ...

Oh well, hope they stay safe once kaffirs are completely eliminated in Pakland.

Blasphemy laws seem to be very efficient in accomplishing such goals over there.

 

[bose]

Oh well, hope they stay safe once kaffirs are completely eliminated in Pakland.

Blasphemy laws seem to be very efficient in accomplishing such goals over there.

Muhajirs are half Kafirs and not of Arab origin ... no one trust them ...

 

[Neo]

Muhajirs are half Kafirs and not of Arab origin ... no one trust them ...

I have asked you before and I'm asking again if you're on trolling mode, kindly don't quote me.
Some of my best hindu friends love my home made beef shami kabab. Do you see me generalising?

 

[bose]

I have asked you before and I'm asking again if you're on trolling mode, kindly don't quote me.
Some of my best hindu friends love my home made beef shami kabab. Do you see me generalising?

Did I quote you ? Nah !!

Please tell your friends not to eat Beef ... it is haram... they may try out Buffalo meat as alternative...

 

[thethinker]

I have asked you before and I'm asking again if you're on trolling mode, kindly don't quote me.
Some of my best hindu friends love my home made beef shami kabab. Do you see me generalising?

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