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Vijender Singh bags his second WBO Title, defeats China no.1







The Indian boxer Vijender Singh continue his unbeaten run & emerged victorious by unanimous decision against China’s Zulpikar Maimaitiali in a fight that was very fiercely contested.

The card also featured former Olympics boxers in Akhil Kumar and Jitender Kumar who made their debut having competed at the Beijing Olympics.



However the eyes of those at the NSCI in Mumbai and millions watching on the TV screens were transfixed on the boxer from Bhiwani who once again in a unanimous decision to keep his unbeaten streak going.

“I want to dedicate this win to India-China friendship! There is some tension at the border, need peace!” Vijender said after the fight. “You all saw it was a tough fight, but happy that we came out victorious”, he added.

Vijender now has the WBO Asia Pacific Super Middleweight title & WBO Oriental Super Middleweight title in his kitty.

SINGH IS KING! @boxervijender

WBO Asia Pacific Super Middleweight title ✔
WBO Oriental Super Middleweight title ✔#BattleGroundAsia pic.twitter.com/saVTaKuQzU

— IOS Boxing (@IOSBoxing) August 5, 2017



Vijender took on Chinese No.1 boxer Zulpikar Maimaitiali and at the end, Vijender now holds WBO Asia Pacific Super Middleweight & WBO Oriental Super Middleweight. In other bouts, Akhil Kumar beat Ty Gilchrist and Jitender Kumar beat Thanet Likhitkamporn.

Scores were as follows : 96-93, 95-94, 95-94 in the favour of Indian Vijender Singh.

Before the fight Vijender was highly pumped up & said ” “This is India versus China, I don’t need anything and I am excited, I know the whole of India is with me,” Vijender said at the weigh-in on Friday.


http://sportstalk24.com/vijender-singh-bags-his-second-wbo-title-defeats-china-no-1/
 

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congratulations to him ...
made India proud..
keep it up!!
 

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Out of all the matches this is the first time Vijender fought a real strong and matured boxer. Though the match was 50-50, Vijender got extra points due to zulpikar's negative punches. Sometimes in last and second last round Vijender could have been knocked down also. When Vijender added some extra pound and stamina after joining pro but still far from acute fitness and speed.
 

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Out of all the matches this is the first time Vijender fought a real strong and matured boxer. Though the match was 50-50, Vijender got extra points due to zulpikar's negative punches. Sometimes in last and second last round Vijender could have been knocked down also. When Vijender added some extra pound and stamina after joining pro but still far from acute fitness and speed.

His boxing was inaccurate, he was moving awkwardly and he kept falling down. Last couple of rounds he looked like he would be knocked out any second. I was surprised he won despite the couple of low blows that the Chinese lost points for. All in all, in my opinion he wasn't the better boxer today but had luck on his side.
 

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Impact of Galwan on Indian Army Training
Every small or big operation impact the thinking of military officers and soldiers while they carry out assessments of actions taken, lapses, successes and lessons learnt.

Having stated that utility of mass and importance of numbers and resrves at every level is one of the biggest lesson that will be taken home, there is another aspect of military training and skills that would exercise all commanders mind - the physical Contact Warfare and Unarmed Combat,

Indian Army as also most of the armies of the world lay very less emphasis on unarmed combat. For armies. application of superior firepower is of prime importance and almost every means is geared to bring more tonnage of led and steel coupled with explosives on to the target (called bringing the shit on the target ).

Infantry is the Only arm that basic role is to close in with the enemy and destroy him by close combat (called CQB) . Here also efforts are made to use maximum firepower to destroy enemy.

Bayonet Charges are left only to infantry who still pride in other methods like Khukhari Charges, or kripan charges. But over all contact combat in the Army is shunned and not given adequate importance.

Kabbadi, wrestling and boxing are some game that go a long way in promoting contact battles. But participation in these is limited to regional character of troops. A Gurkha or Assamese has no idea of wrestling and a Jat or Rajput can be knocked down in first round itself by a Gurkha or a Madrasi / Keralite in boxing.

However, Galwan will now force the Army Officer to think about physical contact training and many morning PT and evening games periods would be given for Hanuman Ji Ka Akhara. Infantry units will increasing have Unarmed Combat Pits dug up in the units.

Adjutant IMA and OTA must take a nude unarmed comat combat parade at least for one hours in the night and at least twice a month as part of curriculum. Officers must pass boxing test every term and made to bleed.
In a boxing of 6 ft Rajput or Jat against a 5 feet gurkha...the gurkha will never ever touch the chin of a rajput or jat.

Contact sports are all about range.
 

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In a boxing of 6 ft Rajput or Jat against a 5 feet gurkha...the gurkha will never ever touch the chin of a rajput or jat.

Contact sports are all about range.
First round knock out... ask any fauzi.... A jat is good at wrestling. he can hold .catch and wrestle. With gloves in hand, he is useless..... a gawachi Ga...
 

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First round knock out... ask any fauzi.... A jat is good at wrestling. he can hold .catch and wrestle. With gloves in hand, he is useless..... a gawachi Ga...
Indian boxing federation and their medal tally disagrees

Best boxers in India..Jat and Rajputs.

 

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In a boxing of 6 ft Rajput or Jat against a 5 feet gurkha...the gurkha will never ever touch the chin of a rajput or jat.

Contact sports are all about range.
A lot of juvenile assumption, so, basically every jat or rajput is NOT 6ft not even close ,and neither every gurkha is 5 feet.

Second assumption boxing vs street fight, a 5'5 feet guy will Easily touch the chin irrespective of other guy being 6 ft in a street fight, all it will take is one miss punch and other guy will be right on his chin or can take him down,
And a trained boxer is like a sniper, his punch lands where he wants to, but that is TRAINED boxer, in general even if one uses punching bag regularly the precision, hand speed doesnt come and can easily be ducked under, and even if you land it, it will Not knock the other guy out, that power only comes from training and gloves are needed or you will end up breaking your hand if you landed on hard spot or wrong angle with that speed and power.

I used punching bag regularly but in actual fights i missed punches easily and the fight always goes to ground and then up and then down goes on and i got bitten by a guy once and had to take tetanus shots,

the clean landing punch just rarely happens, in fact only clean punch is the first one when you suddenly jump the guy others get partial connection.

All of this when other guy is not kicking, biting, squeeze/claw your balls etc.
Street fights as in actual fights without rules are very unpredictable and certainly aren't sports where range will matter that much, as you don't even have time to set up range or dance around its sudden and full on.

Also jats i will assume will be taller on average but not rajputs.

North east guys are actually pretty good boxers.
 

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A lot of juvenile assumption, so, basically every jat or rajput is NOT 6ft not even close ,and neither every gurkha is 5 feet.

Second assumption boxing vs street fight, a 5'5 feet guy will Easily touch the chin irrespective of other guy being 6 ft in a street fight, all it will take is one miss punch and other guy will be right on his chin or can take him down,
And a trained boxer is like a sniper, his punch lands where he wants to, but that is TRAINED boxer, in general even if one uses punching bag regularly the precision, hand speed doesnt come and can easily be ducked under, and even if you land it, it will Not knock the other guy out, that power only comes from training and gloves are needed or you will end up breaking your hand if you landed on hard spot or wrong angle with that speed and power.

I used punching bag regularly but in actual fights i missed punches easily and the fight always goes to ground and then up and then down goes on and i got bitten by a guy once and had to take tetanus shots,

the clean landing punch just rarely happens, in fact only clean punch is the first one when you suddenly jump the guy others get partial connection.

All of this when other guy is not kicking, biting, squeeze/claw your balls etc.
Street fights as in actual fights without rules are very unpredictable and certainly aren't sports where range will matter that much, as you don't even have time to set up range or dance around its sudden and full on.

Also jats i will assume will be taller on average but not rajputs.

North east guys are actually pretty good boxers.
Do not explain it to that guy as he is very rigid in his views and not amenable to reason... He must find faults..

It is also the question of mindset, training and physical structure speciality agility.
YMCA has been training good boxers and most of them are invariably South Indians.. Even in Army The Madras Engineers produce good boxers... but boxing a game is dominated in the Army by Gorkhas / Garhwalis. Though some Jat boys have started doing well in boxing too.

Boxing means ability to take lots of beating and some people just do not take it. The fear of beating can not be overcome without getting beaten...

Boxing is akin to football that requires lots of training and skill not necessarily raw brawn .
 
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This thread will be dedicated to Indian sports and it's athletes of all kind.
 
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A lot of juvenile assumption, so, basically every jat or rajput is NOT 6ft not even close ,and neither every gurkha is 5 feet.

Second assumption boxing vs street fight, a 5'5 feet guy will Easily touch the chin irrespective of other guy being 6 ft in a street fight, all it will take is one miss punch and other guy will be right on his chin or can take him down,
And a trained boxer is like a sniper, his punch lands where he wants to, but that is TRAINED boxer, in general even if one uses punching bag regularly the precision, hand speed doesnt come and can easily be ducked under, and even if you land it, it will Not knock the other guy out, that power only comes from training and gloves are needed or you will end up breaking your hand if you landed on hard spot or wrong angle with that speed and power.

I used punching bag regularly but in actual fights i missed punches easily and the fight always goes to ground and then up and then down goes on and i got bitten by a guy once and had to take tetanus shots,

the clean landing punch just rarely happens, in fact only clean punch is the first one when you suddenly jump the guy others get partial connection.

All of this when other guy is not kicking, biting, squeeze/claw your balls etc.
Street fights as in actual fights without rules are very unpredictable and certainly aren't sports where range will matter that much, as you don't even have time to set up range or dance around its sudden and full on.

Also jats i will assume will be taller on average but not rajputs.

North east guys are actually pretty good boxers.
ohkay sir..then please post list of all the boxers from north east who won medals for India.If they are so good they must be winning medals internationally.

VIJENDER SINGH is by far the best boxer India has.

And read this report


@Bhadra This is for you too.You have a personal favouritism of nepalese hence the stance.

I dont know which informed Indian in his right senses doesnt know that the Cuba of India is Haryana.

P.S-Cuba was known for boxing.
 

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ohkay sir..then please post list of all the boxers from north east who won medals for India.If they are so good they must be winning medals internationally.
Good now post the sports budget of haryana and manipur or other north east states and compare, its certainly not because of height or race.

Also Haryana lost in kabaddi this time, you know why? Because other states also started putting MONEY and effort into it.
VIJENDER SINGH is by far the best boxer India has.
Wrong, It's mary kom by miles.

When you talk about international tournaments talk about olympics or world championship as that's where the countries send their best athletes.

Also look at the "tiny puny" looking chinese Olympics medal tally and compare it with ours.

You have too much of a biased skewed opinion and favouritism.

Look at athletics, weightlifting etc and compare those stats of all states, haryana will fall back why? because of the support system, motivation and money put into a particular sport in a state.

Every state has limited budget and sports doesn't get much attention unlike haryana where its getting great attention hence the results, again not much to do with race.

Wrestling is getting brutal attention and serious rewards for more than 10 yrs now, how many Olympic medals do we have in wrestling?

And also Check out the standings in heavy weight and light heavyweight categories of wrestling where these tall 6 footers are found, check Indian performance, in "tall" categories Indian wrestlers get knocked out in first or second rounds in tall categories and frankly unlike lighter weight categories, i haven't seen any new bright wrestlers coming up in 97 kg ,125 kg categories, same old sluggish wrestlers who had hard time beating a pakistani wrestler in recent SAF games, Why do you think new 6 footer heavy weight wrestlers aren't to be seen like their Lw counterparts?
Haryana is supposed to be full of 6 footers right? or maybe average height of Haryana too is about 5'6 or 5'5 hence the major upcoming wrestlers are also of about same heights give or take a couple of inches.
Our best wrestler is Bajrang punia and before him sushil kumar both about 5'5 to 5'6.
 

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Good now post the sports budget of haryana and manipur or other north east states and compare, its certainly not because of height or race.

Also Haryana lost in kabaddi this time, you know why? Because other states also started putting MONEY and effort into it.

Wrong, It's mary kom by miles.

When you talk about international tournaments talk about olympics or world championship as that's where the countries send their best athletes.

Also look at the "tiny puny" looking chinese Olympics medal tally and compare it with ours.

You have too much of a biased skewed opinion and favouritism.

Look at athletics, weightlifting etc and compare those stats of all states, haryana will fall back why? because of the support system, motivation and money put into a particular sport in a state.

Every state has limited budget and sports doesn't get much attention unlike haryana where its getting great attention hence the results, again not much to do with race.

Wrestling is getting brutal attention and serious rewards for more than 10 yrs now, how many Olympic medals do we have in wrestling?

And also Check out the standings in heavy weight and light heavyweight categories of wrestling where these tall 6 footers are found, check Indian performance, in "tall" categories Indian wrestlers get knocked out in first or second rounds in tall categories and frankly unlike lighter weight categories, i haven't seen any new bright wrestlers coming up in 97 kg ,125 kg categories, same old sluggish wrestlers who had hard time beating a pakistani wrestler in recent SAF games, Why do you think new 6 footer heavy weight wrestlers aren't to be seen like their Lw counterparts?
Haryana is supposed to be full of 6 footers right? or maybe average height of Haryana too is about 5'6 or 5'5 hence the major upcoming wrestlers are also of about same heights give or take a couple of inches.
Our best wrestler is Bajrang punia and before him sushil kumar both about 5'5 to 5'6.
So why didnt your 5 feet chinis win against 6 ft sardars and biharis despite being outnumbered?
 

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